[VS] Third Raikage vs Minato Namikaze

[ATD]

The problem for Minato is this:The third raikage KNEW about how he got the scar on his chest, hence it being his life's shame. I see no reason for him to use the one fingered nukite against a teleporter like Minato when he doesn't actually need it to kill him. In b4 someone talks about the gig which Naruto pulled off-the Raikage was being controlled by Kabuto, who obviously had no knowledge of the 3rds weakness. Minato has no way of putting the Raikage down, as he tanked FRS. He wins via outlasting Minato.

Interesting point, that changes it a bit.
You are right, why should he use his hell stab against a teleporter, now the only question which is left for me is : What does genjutsu to the chakra system of the target?
if the 3 raikage falls for the genjutsu, would it affect the maintaining of his raiton amor ?
If not, Minato has nothing to hurt him and The third Raikage maybe snap out of the genjutsu when minato tries to hurt him with Rasengans.
Interesting matchup, i really don't know who wins.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Minato seals him, ain't no need to hurt him.

And since when do the Raikages cloaks stun people?

 

[EliteKakashi]

Interesting point, that changes it a bit.
You are right, why should he use his hell stab against a teleporter, now the only question which is left for me is : What does genjutsu to the chakra system of the target?
if the 3 raikage falls for the genjutsu, would it affect the maintaining of his raiton amor ?
If not, Minato has nothing to hurt him and The third Raikage maybe snap out of the genjutsu when minato tries to hurt him with Rasengans.
Interesting matchup, i really don't know who wins.

Raiton armor would be shut off because Gama Rinsho causes the opponent to have no further use of their nerves or mind.

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With no ability for the mind to tell the body what jutsu to use, it's going to be cancelled.

Short of the Kaguya family, there's probably not anyone who can do anything about Gama Rinsho, because even if you want to argue that raiton armor or something like susanoo would stay active, the genjutsu is stays in place for as long as Fukasaku and Shima want it to:

Inside the genjutsu world, the target is surrounded North, East, South, and West, by giant toads, imprisoning them in a barrier. The four unmoving toads won't lift the complete binding until the user gives the order. All that is left to do is to strike the finishing blow in the real world.

Thus, eventually, the user of raiton armor or whatever else, would die from their stamina running out.

 

[super yang]

Minato seals him, ain't no need to hurt him.

And since when do the Raikages cloaks stun people?

since it was made out of electricity.

 

[Gold Lightning]

since it was made out of electricity.

It's never shocked anyone before. Ohnoki was holding Ay and nothing happened to him. Bee clashed lariats with Ay, yet wasn't electrocuted. Naruto exchanged blows with him yet received no electrocution.

Show me when it has ever electrocuted someone, because it doesn't.

 

[super yang]

It's never shocked anyone before. Ohnoki was holding Ay and nothing happened to him. Bee clashed lariats with Ay, yet wasn't electrocuted. Naruto exchanged blows with him yet received no electrocution.

Show me when it has ever electrocuted someone, because it doesn't.

it has never electrocuted anyone because the raikage doesn't electrocute people offensively, he blitzes them & strikes them down.
if u touch him passively, U get shocked.
-onoki never fought raikage
-naruto never fought raikage
-bee never fought raikage on panel

 

[ATD]

Raiton armor would be shut off because Gama Rinsho causes the opponent to have no further use of their nerves or mind.

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With no ability for the mind to tell the body what jutsu to use, it's going to be cancelled.

Short of the Kaguya family, there's probably not anyone who can do anything about Gama Rinsho, because even if you want to argue that raiton armor or something like susanoo would stay active, the genjutsu is stays in place for as long as Fukasaku and Shima want it to:

No i wont argue against Manga facts, i didnt remember that panel so you are right and convinced me, hopefully others, too.
Okay Minato takes it by summoning ma&pa

 

[Gold Lightning]

it has never electrocuted anyone because the raikage doesn't electrocute people offensively, he blitzes them & strikes them down.
if u touch him passively, U get shocked.
-onoki never fought raikage
-naruto never fought raikage
-bee never fought raikage on panel

Lol, all bull that you've written.

The cloak doesn't shock people, never has, never did.

"If you touch him passively" Lol. Ok then, how do you know this, please show me where this was said, or did you make it up.

There are scans in the manga of different people touching him, yet no electrocution. That's all the proof needed.

 

[super yang]

Lol, all bull that you've written.

The cloak doesn't shock people, never has, never did.

"If you touch him passively" Lol. Ok then, how do you know this, please show me where this was said, or did you make it up.

There are scans in the manga of different people touching him, yet no electrocution. That's all the proof needed.

because lightning electrocutes people. that's all the proof I need.

 

[KidGamer65]

because lightning electrocutes people. that's all the proof I need.

Lightning electrocutes people, yet as GL already posted....no one who has touched it ever got shocked. It's up to you to prove that passively touching Ay will get you shocked, something you obviously can't do.

 

[super yang]

Lightning electrocutes people, yet as GL already posted....no one who has touched it ever got shocked. It's up to you to prove that passively touching Ay will get you shocked, something you obviously can't do.

no, its already been proven. U have to prove that his lightning does something different than what has already been established.

prove that the armor, whose lightning release cuts/vibrates & pierces doesn't also electrocute people if it is desired by the user.

 

[KidGamer65]

no, its already been proven. U have to prove that his lightning does something different than what has already been established.

Except it hasn't. It's been touched, and no one was ever electrocuted. Ever.

prove that the armor, whose lightning release cuts/vibrates & pierces doesn't also electrocute people if it is desired by the user.

Manga already shows people touching it, without being electrocuted. You are going to have to prove that Ay's will has anything to do with it, as that is what you claimed. If it's just lightning, then why in the hell would Ay's will be relevant? Can Naruto go up and tank Sasuke's Chidori even if Sasuke doesn't want to hurt him with it? Obviously not.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

no, its already been proven. U have to prove that his lightning does something different than what has already been established.

prove that the armor, whose lightning release cuts/vibrates & pierces doesn't also electrocute people if it is desired by the user.

Can I have a scan of when this was proven?

 

[super yang]

Except it hasn't. It's been touched, and no one was ever electrocuted. Ever.

no, that's never been clarified. the 1st thing that comes to my m,ind is liger bomb & there is nothing to say sasuke didn't also get electrocuted. but of course, that is beside the poit of liger bomb, which goes back to the speed & efficiency of raikages style & why it normally wouldn't be relevant in the context of the story.
but this is a hypothetical contest outside the scripted plot...

Manga already shows people touching it, without being electrocuted. You are going to have to prove that Ay's will has anything to do with it, as that is what you claimed. If it's just lightning, then why in the hell would Ay's will be relevant? Can Naruto go up and tank Sasuke's Chidori even if Sasuke doesn't want to hurt him with it? Obviously not.

his will doen't change the properties of rai'ton, no. it does change the way he uses the cloak, as say, if minato is buzzing around him, he can bug-zap him.

no, of course they are alike & it have electric effects.
nagashi is nature manipulation, not shape.(only Kirin uses any substantial shape)
you are arguing against redundancy.
mei is not immune to lava on her lips/acid on her body.
slugs & narutos book & his clothes are not immune to fire, friction & gravity.
raikage doesn't need to be shown electrocuting people, as he isnta defensive fighter.
and we certainly don't need to see him shocking his allies(comic relief) to ruin the contrasting surly, overly seriousness of his character archetype

and RnY boosts his reflexes, which means it runs thru his system just like sasuke did to himself.
the difference is raikage has the training & the genetic gifts to handle the backlash...so he is immune to C4

C3 gets intercepted & run thru before detonation or black lightning, if it even comes out, as deidara won't last very long

 

[Amaterasu]

Minato med-high diff. he uses his speed to make the third raikage kills himself just like Naruto did.

BM Minato is too much for him

 

[KidGamer65]

no, that's never been clarified. the 1st thing that comes to my m,ind is liger bomb & there is nothing to say sasuke didn't also get electrocuted. but of course, that is beside the poit of liger bomb, which goes back to the speed & efficiency of raikages style & why it normally wouldn't be relevant in the context of the story.
but this is a hypothetical contest outside the scripted... plot

So basically you have no proof. I definitely have proof.

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Not electrocuted.

his will doen't change the properties of rai'ton, no. it does change the way he uses the cloak, as say, if minato is buzzing around him, he can bug-zap him.

Except he can't. Zero proof to back it up.

no, of course they are alike & it have electric effects.
nagashi is nature manipulation, not shape.(only Kirin uses any substantial shape)
you are arguing against redundancy.
mei is not immune to lava on her lips/acid on her body.
slugs & narutos book & his clothes are not immune to fire, friction & gravity.
raikage doesn't need to be shown electrocuting people, as he isnta defensive fighter.
and we certainly don't need to see him shocking his allies(comic relief) to ruin the contrasting surly, overly seriousness of his character archetype

This whole post is full of irrelevant content, with you stating your stance over again, when I'm asking for proof. Lol. And you've given no proof. Raikage being a defensive fighter isn't any kind of evidence or proof.

 

[Xlad]

Just a note: Ei's Lightning Armor's real name is Raiton Chakra Mode. It's a mode that enhances the base stats of his speed, durability and reflexes alone; it doesn't work as an actual usable layer. Nothing suggest that the chakra wrapped around Sandaime can actually be used to electrocute people. That's just an assumption that was based on the appearances of RCM alone.

Ei shoved his hands on Jugo, yet never actually electrocuted him. Ei offensively used RCM on KCM Naruto several times, yet he wasn't electrocuted from the punches. He even noted that the only indicated effect was the heavy force being used.

 

[super yang]

So basically you have no proof. I definitely have proof.

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Not electrocuted.

no, U just arguing against redudancy for absurdity. to prove a point to suit Ur argument.
the narrative doesn't call for RnY to be a hindrance to their teamwork, nevermind the fact that onoki is using a do'ton on a rai'ton release.

U can pretend fantasy & fiction are consistent, when they're inconsistent by nature & don't have the subliminal purpose of telling a story, & only that.
But Ur wasting ur time in questioning my evaluations & interpretations of such.

Except he can't. Zero proof to back it up.

proof of lighning having the primary function of disrupting the staticflow of electricity in closed mediums? the manga already established that.

[]This whole post is full of irrelevant content, with you stating your stance over again, when I'm asking for proof. Lol. And you've given no proof. Raikage being a defensive fighter isn't any kind of evidence or proof.

no, the proof is in the pudding already. U can prove that Rn Y has some differing properties than every other rai'ton

 

[KidGamer65]

no, U just arguing against redudancy for absurdity. to prove a point to suit Ur argument.
the narrative doesn't call for RnY to be a hindrance to their teamwork, nevermind the fact that onoki is using a do'ton on a rai'ton release.

Meaning it doesn't electrocute people, that simple. You are going to need proof that:

1. Onoki touching Ay to use his heavy rock and light weight rock jutsu will stop him from being electrocuted when he's not covering himself or Ay with any kind of earth.

2. That it electrocutes enemies and not teammates.

"Narrative doesn't' call for RnY to be a hindrance to their teamwork" is pretty terrible way to prove your point, especially since it not electrocuting people PERIOD also fits this criteria.

U can pretend fantasy & fiction are consistent, when they're inconsistent by nature & don't have the subliminal purpose of telling a story, & only that.
But Ur wasting ur time in questioning my evaluations & interpretations of such.

You can pretend that your argumentation makes sense, but you are wasting your time....cause you have no proof.

proof of lighning having the primary function of disrupting the staticflow of electricity in closed mediums? the manga already established that.

Nope. Proof that Ay's Raiton Chakra Mode will electrocute people? Oh wait, you don't have it.

no, the proof is in the pudding already. U can prove that Rn Y has some differing properties than every other rai'ton

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You've been proved wrong. Lol. Then there's everything Esdeath said. Touching Ay's armor isn't going to electrocute someone.

 

[super yang]

whoaaaaa, Nellie. this barrel has way too many holes in it to keep the sarsaparilla from spilling out of it...

Just a note: Ei's Lightning Armor's real name is Raiton Chakra Mode. It's a mode that enhances the base stats of his speed, durability and reflexes alone; it doesn't work as an actual usable layer. Nothing suggest that the chakra wrapped around Sandaime can actually be used to electrocute people.

- implying that nukite & oppression chop don't use ration nature to vibrate rapidly, causing piercing/cutting trauma
-implying it didn't use rai'ton nature to rebuff chidori
-implying it the visual/tangible cloak appearance & the word ''armor/yoroi'' has no tangible defensive qualities

That's just an assumption that was based on the appearances of RCM alone.

what now?

Ei shoved his hands on Jugo, yet never actually electrocuted him.

that kinda thing is never clarified one way or the other for the redundancy issue. prove Juugo didn't receive stun as well.

]Ei offensively used RCM on KCM Naruto several times, yet he wasn't electrocuted from the punches. He even noted that the only indicated effect was the heavy force being used.

prove his KCM didn't buffer him from any electrical interference.
(silly, I know, but then that was never the point of those clashes w/ Ei; narrative is narrative)