Third Raikage, strongest Kage of all time?

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TS is partially right, the one mizukage couldbeat third raikage, other then that he kills everyone including hashi, not a very good stylistic matchup, if he pliztes hashi what can he do his mouton break on contact, he's not fast enough plus the black lightning, he'd kill muu i mean look what madara did
 

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Hiruzen Sarutobi, the Third Hokage, was said to be the strongest Hokage in the village's history, as well as strongest of the Five Kage of his era.
thats like saying in DBZ the first broly movie: goku is the strongest but through out the fight goku was get smashed around the place, exausted all his 'ki' energy and is about to die and somehow with the help of 4 smashed,'ki' exausted, z fighter transferring shit all energy to goku who somehow miraculously punched a hole in broly, who wasn't exausted at all but actually gaining more 'ki' energy everytime he exchanges a blow, no scraches or bruises.
The moral of this little statement is that things are f**ked up and don't make sense.
why state that hiruzen is the strongest and show little evidence to back this up, while all the feats that show hashi doing are seriously questioning the statement 'strongest hokage, Hiruzen'???
 
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thats like saying in DBZ the first broly movie: goku is the strongest but through out the fight goku was get smashed around the place, exausted all his 'ki' energy and is about to die and somehow with the help of 4 smashed,'ki' exausted, z fighter transferring shit all energy to goku who somehow miraculously punched a hole in broly, who wasn't exausted at all but actually gaining more 'ki' energy everytime he exchanges a blow, no scraches or bruises.
The moral of this little statement is that things are f**ked up and don't make sense.
why state that hiruzen is the strongest and show little evidence to back this up, while all the feats that show hashi doing are seriously questioning the statement 'strongest hokage, Hiruzen'???
Lawl, your story confused the shit out of me but your moral makes sense. :)
 
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he cant take down itachi,second hokage
why not?
Anyone with genjustu can beat him
so tayuya beats him? genjutsu isnt as effective as everyone thinks

and throughout it Madara keeps telling them that the only one who can beat him is Hashirama
yeah when hes alive. hashirama cant do shit to preta path. madara also keeps saying they have to seal him. hashiramas shown no sealing jutsu

when hashi fought ems madara, kurama made up for the rinnegan and mokuton(and possibly perfect susano'o). guess who won??? HASHIRAMA SENJU!!!!
we dont know how or how many reinforcements he had

we all know th edo tensei oro performed isn't as good as it is now,
irrelevant. all edos are as strong as in life

through out the fight it was low level ninjutsu and taijutsu based and the 3rd was struggling to the point of reaper death seal
high level for the time period. if they fought in part 2 thered obviously be more flashy explosions and shizz

telling all these amazing feats Hashirama has done that Hiruzen could only dream of
yet kishi consistently told us in databooks hiruzen was strongest hokage

also you said that Naruto didn't beat the Third Raikage but in actuality, he did, just because he made him hit himself doesn't mean he didn't beat him.
yes it does. the sealing team beat him. naruto only damaged him. thats how i classify who beats these edo tenseis. if they deal a mortal wound to someone like kabuto cutting itachi in half thats also beating in my book. if this was alive third, who is to say he would break apart like some edos? they are obviously more fragile than alive beings.
furthermore since it was kabuto fighting using third as a puppet cant you say alliance beat kabuto?

and just because the Hachibi told him the story doesn't mean he never would have or could have beaten the Third Raikage
how else will he discover "gee maybe i should redirect his finger into his scar since he did it to himself before"

any intelligent shinobi could have figured iht out,
HOW? most sensible people would assume its a mark from childhood or gotten from a bijuu claw or some shit. no one on the face of the earth could figure that out without dodai and hachibis stories.

Finally, how do you know the interview with Kishi is fake,
literally every person on this fanbase is saying so. in the same interview he said tobi is final villain. which is certainly not set in stone. not anymore. he says alot of shit even in real interviews. like "this will be sakura's year of focus" (we got nothing even close to that)

Madara>combined 5 kage
Hashi>Madara which makes him stronger than all other kages.
so hashirama > madara and hashirama fused, as well as possesing rinnegan, meteors, immortality and unlimited chakra?
Plus Hashi had many tailed beasts under his control which makes him even stronger
in that case tobirama has an army of edos. bam. hes instantly strongest kage

nd could perform medical ninjutsu without handseals.
we saw with our own eyes tsunade do exactly that. also kabuto.

why state that hiruzen is the strongest and show little evidence to back this up, while all the feats that show hashi doing are seriously questioning the statement 'strongest hokage, Hiruzen'???
evidence? how about the fact he fought both previous hokages at once in old age and held his own.

thats like saying in DBZ the first broly movie: goku is the strongest but through out the fight goku was get smashed around the place, exausted all his 'ki' energy and is about to die and somehow with the help of 4 smashed,'ki' exausted, z fighter transferring shit all energy to goku who somehow miraculously punched a hole in broly, who wasn't exausted at all but actually gaining more 'ki' energy everytime he exchanges a blow, no scraches or bruises.
that movie was horrendous filler. ignore it
 

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why not?
So tayuya beats him? Genjutsu isnt as effective as everyone thinks

yeah when hes alive. Hashirama cant do shit to preta path. Madara also keeps saying they have to seal him. Hashiramas shown no sealing jutsu

we dont know how or how many reinforcements he had

irrelevant. All edos are as strong as in life

high level for the time period. If they fought in part 2 thered obviously be more flashy explosions and shizz

yet kishi consistently told us in databooks hiruzen was strongest hokage

yes it does. The sealing team beat him. Naruto only damaged him. Thats how i classify who beats these edo tenseis. If they deal a mortal wound to someone like kabuto cutting itachi in half thats also beating in my book. If this was alive third, who is to say he would break apart like some edos? They are obviously more fragile than alive beings.
Furthermore since it was kabuto fighting using third as a puppet cant you say alliance beat kabuto?

How else will he discover "gee maybe i should redirect his finger into his scar since he did it to himself before"

how? Most sensible people would assume its a mark from childhood or gotten from a bijuu claw or some shit. No one on the face of the earth could figure that out without dodai and hachibis stories.

Literally every person on this fanbase is saying so. In the same interview he said tobi is final villain. Which is certainly not set in stone. Not anymore. He says alot of shit even in real interviews. Like "this will be sakura's year of focus" (we got nothing even close to that)

so hashirama > madara and hashirama fused, as well as possesing rinnegan, meteors, immortality and unlimited chakra?
In that case tobirama has an army of edos. Bam. Hes instantly strongest kage

we saw with our own eyes tsunade do exactly that. Also kabuto.

Evidence? How about the fact he fought both previous hokages at once in old age and held his own.

That movie was horrendous filler. Ignore it



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Who's stronger Third Raikage or Third Kazekage?

I've asked you personally because i've seen you post long logical arguments which would be interesting to add to my thread

Honestly i think the 3rd Kazekage outclasses him similar from Shikamaru > Hidan
 

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Who's stronger Third Raikage or Third Kazekage?

I've asked you personally because i've seen you post long logical arguments which would be interesting to add to my thread

Leoj i look forward to debating with you, as you present a logical argument
 

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doesnt say he wasnt :) hence never contradicted. until someone outright says "oh yeah that hashirama guy, hes strongest hokage konoha ever had"
now you are grasping at straws. the statement about hiruzen not being there when more info is revealed about hashirama means that kishi ditched hiruzens hype and is basically saying that hashirama is stronger.
 

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now you are grasping at straws. the statement about hiruzen not being there when more info is revealed about hashirama means that kishi ditched hiruzens hype and is basically saying that hashirama is stronger.
He's never contradicted Hiruzen's hype. Why would he mention Hiruzen when this arc is focusing on Hashirama, Madara, Senju DNA, etc?
 

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now you are grasping at straws. the statement about hiruzen not being there when more info is revealed about hashirama means that kishi ditched hiruzens hype and is basically saying that hashirama is stronger
he has no reason to contradict hiruzens hype. no one has outright claimed hashirama beats everyone. no one whos seen prime hiruzen that is. kishi via databooks > biased characters
 
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