(Theory) Why Madara had only one eye. Making the connections to the Uchiha massacre.

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This thread is going to explain why Madara has one eye and also why Obito had to make sure every Uchiha was dead.


The Premise​

Ever since chapter 602 many have wondered about this...

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It seemed strange right? Madara had only one eye. So the question remains...Why?

The most common answer to this seems to be, "Well when he gave his eyes to Nagato, he took or found an Uchiha's eye and used that." And sure, this could be what happened, but there is a huge hole in this idea, literally (in his eye socket) and figuartively. Why only one?! It is such a weird concept to grasp. If we believe he stole an Uchiha's eyes then why did he only take one? And if we believe he found it, then again, why was there only one?



Well, I think I have come up with a plausible reason.​

The Reason and Theory

Given what we know about the Uchiha and their techniques, why would one only have one eye?​

The answer is here.

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Izanagi. A jutsu that can only be used by some one possessing both Senju and Uchiha DNA, which we know Madara went at lengths to obtain. And is the only reason an actual Uchiha would have only one eye (except the circumstance with Obito and Kakashi).

So, that woud explain why Madara has only one eye. He used Izanagi. "But TYG why would Madara have used Izanagi." Well, its simple. He used it...

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The dream world remember? Madara wants to create his own world in a genjutsu. And if my theory is correct that world is created by projecting Izangi on the moon or rather, using Izanagi to "create" and then dragging everyone in that world with genjutsu. Remember what Konan said..

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Both the power of the Uchiha and the Senju, that is the Sage's power. Izanagi is that power and is what I believe the Sage (Senju and Uchiha) used as foundation to "create."


So it is using the Juubi's power to project one's eye on the moon. But in order to make sure it worked, he created a pseudo dream world using the Juubi's shell (Gedo Mazo) and that is what he showed to Obito. He did this to "test" his dream world before he would implament the real thing. The Moons Eye plan is a projection of Izanagi on the world, hence why he has only one eye.


And I know what you're saying, "Even if he did use Izanagi, his eye wouldn't fall out." Yes, but it would not be out of the realm of possibility to think he just discarded the eye after its use. Kind of like Obito did after his fight with Konan.


It just makes NO sense that he would have just harbored one eye. There had to be a second. One he used to test out his dream world.


Why Obito had to kill the Uchiha​

So, that brings me to my next point. Obito, and why he had to destroy the Uchiha. If we can accept the idea that the world they are creating is rooted in the creation of Izanagi, then no Uchiha could be alive when this world would come to be...​

And whys that you ask?

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It is because of Izanami. The only thing that could counter the world created by Izanagi is by some one canceling it out with Izanami. This notion that "Obito was just trying to prove he was Madara, so he killed the clan," is completely absurd. He had already gotten Minato to believe he was Madara and NO ONE KNEW he helped Itachi besides Danzou. He pretty much told Kakashi, Yamato and everyone else at the Kage Summit that he was Madara and they all believed him...and NONE of them knew of his participation in the massacre. He had an agenda when he helped Itachi. And that agenda was to whipe out the only threat to his dream world...those who could use Izanami.

Disclaimer: I have seen many theories on Obito's motives of killing the Uchiha because they interfered with his plans. This was not my original idea. Kudos to whoever first wrote it, but it fit the premise of my thread nicely. The prospect of Izanami being a threat is something I haven't seen, but its possible it is already out there.


Anyway, if you make it through the thread. Thanks for reading :)
 

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No, he gave both his eyes to Nagato. Then he killed an uchiha and stole his eye. Actually, thinking about it, that is probably right
 

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No, he gave both his eyes to Nagato. Then he killed an uchiha and stole his eye. Actually, thinking about it, that is probably right



Yes, that is the probably what most believe. But look at what you said. He killed an Uchiha and took his "eye". One eye? Why would he do that?
 

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Has to be the truth.
 

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No, he gave both his eyes to Nagato. Then he killed an uchiha and stole his eye. Actually, thinking about it, that is probably right
Why one when he could have both??
 

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i acutally stand by this theory

Haha okay okay I get it. But I just can't accept that. Explain some circumstance where you see this as plausible. Why only one eye. Offer something up, really anything. Izanagi or Izanami are the only reasons an Uchiha would have one eye.
 

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BRILLIANT!!! If this is correct, then the tutorial on Izanami and Izanagi is relevant and not just the author having a nerd moment, plus the Uchiha massacre makes more sense.
 

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Thank you! No one can be sure now. But I think Izanami and Izanagi are going to have a HUGE impact on the future of the story.
The general theory was quite convincing except the stealing one eye part which made me think otherwise.Sry for my sentence construction.I'm drunk
 

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BRILLIANT!!! If this is correct, then the tutorial on Izanami and Izanagi is relevant and not just the author having a nerd moment, plus the Uchiha massacre makes more sense.



Exactly! He went in to such vivid detail explaining BOTH techniques. Kishi definitely has plans for their use in the future. Glad you liked it :D!
 

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may be he was just given another eye by an uchiha so the senju would not wipe them out
 

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may be he was just given another eye by an uchiha so the senju would not wipe them out

Haha, I mean I guess it's possible. But the Uchiha hated him. I don't think its so simple as, "Oh well it was given to him." The author kind of left us hanging when he showed Madara with one eye. Its not something that can simply go unexplained.
 

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Makes sense but one question...if obito killed off the uchihas so they won't use izanami to get out then why didnt he kill itachi?
 

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Geez he had 1 since the war era. Just incase for izanagi. Hey could be why he survived hashirama after all.
Uchiha massacre? Different time line.
Killed some uchiha? Why not uchiha with both eyes then?

Uchihas were goin down anyway obito made sure to get most sharingans. Otherwise some1 would get powerboost to possibly rival him.
Same reason danzo wanted sasuke dead, he was afraid sasuke would grow and kicked his ass.
 
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Makes sense but one question...if obito killed off the uchihas so they won't use izanami to get out then why didnt he kill itachi?

Well, there are a few reasons I can think of...

1. Itachi was too strong for him at the time.

2. He knew Itachi's intentions to die by Sasuke's hand

3. (Knowing 2) He wanted Sasuke to take Itachi's eyes later, replacing Madara, whom he had always wanted to replace

4. He wanted Itachi to replace Madara, like he does for Sasuke now.

5. He wanted to remain in the shadows. Killing Itachi would alert the Leaf to his presence.
 

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Makes sense but one question...if obito killed off the uchihas so they won't use izanami to get out then why didnt he kill itachi?

Obito didn't kill off the Uchihas, Itachi did. Obito probably figured it was a good compromise because he would only have two left to deal with himself, right? That's what I figure. Also, what the guy above me just said. Good to stay in the shadows by having someone else do the work. If they knew the masked man who attacked the village just a couple years ago was back, they'd freak out.
 
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It all makes sense another great thread

Thanks man. It would be too much of an ass-pull to show Madara like that and to expect the reader to just accept that as the way things are, he will most definitely explain it.
 
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