Theory: What If 3rd Raikage is Responsible for 2nd Hokages death

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probably you guys are forgetting one thing. Tobirama sacrificed his life so that his team can kill the enemy.....so I don't think he died a useless death: which means that enemy would've been killed.so which inturn means that the enemy wasn't the ones you're talking about.
 

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sorry senju fans but kin gin bros killed him
well lets think maybe the 2nd Hokage killed the two bros because they fail the first time so who is to say they didnt fail again and this time got killed but who knows because someone killed them and they were pretty strong shinobi and someone powerful killed them for them to be Edos and then maybe the 2nd Hokage was a bad match up for the Raikage seeing that only a powerful wind user could maybe beat him but these are all possible theories u know;)
 

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imagine young 3rd Raikage in his prime with no weakness and probably faster than he was in his old age with even more stamine probably could last 6 days fighting straight. Beast Mode Guys what do you think:noc:
 

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probably you guys are forgetting one thing. Tobirama sacrificed his life so that his team can kill the enemy.....so I don't think he died a useless death: which means that enemy would've been killed.so which inturn means that the enemy wasn't the ones you're talking about.
Unless someone can counter argue this, then sadly we have our winner...

@Fullname: you said Guys; but there is only one Guy... And said Guy's "beast mode" is gates mode, lol.
 
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I like this! That would put the 2nd Hokage on a higher level, but for some reason , I doubt that the 3rd Raikage would be associated with Gin & Kin and their squad, I think Gin&Kin r rogue ninjas rejected by the Cloud.
 

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I like this! That would put the 2nd Hokage on a higher level, but for some reason , I doubt that the 3rd Raikage would be associated with Gin & Kin and their squad, I think Gin&Kin r rogue ninjas rejected by the Cloud.
it would put the 2nd Hokage on a higher level but i would like to know if he actually killed the bros before his death or another elite shinobi did. The Bros did Know the 3rd Raikage and probably was ordered to kill the 2nd Hokage and 2nd Raikage in order to become Raikage and capture the Nine tales. the 3rd Raikage was not Raikage at that time but Obviously 3rd Raikage Candidate see as he became the 3rd and probably voided the treaty the 2nd Hokage and 2nd Raikage was trying to make. seeing as the cloud were always the enemy with the leaf and Rock since the Founding of the hidden Villages. idk i maybe wrong :shrug:
we never know the true reasons why the brothers did what they did and maybe they were ordered to do so then, to be cast away as outlaws for failing or succeeding as we seen time and time again with
Itachi who was order to kill his clans men
Kabuto who was order to spy and return be killed
Kakuzu who was ordered to kill Hashirama Senju and fail then was punished
and various other ninjas


anyone else has some input to back me on this or disagree? all opinions are accepted:D
 
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it would put the 2nd Hokage on a higher level but i would like to know if he actually killed the bros before his death or another elite shinobi did. The Bros did Know the 3rd Raikage and probably was ordered to kill the 2nd Hokage and 2nd Raikage in order to become Raikage and capture the Nine tales. the 3rd Raikage was not Raikage at that time but Obviously 3rd Raikage Candidate see as he became the 3rd and probably voided the treaty the 2nd Hokage and 2nd Raikage was trying to make. seeing as the cloud were always the enemy with the leaf and Rock since the Founding of the hidden Villages. idk i maybe wrong :shrug:
we never know the true reasons why the brothers did what they did and maybe they were ordered to do so they cast away as outlaws for failing or succeeding as we seen time and time again with
Itachi who was order to kill his clans men
Kabuto who was order to spy and return be killed
Kakuzu who was ordered to kill Hashirama Senju and fail then was punished
and various other ninjas


anyone else has some input to back me on this or disagree? all opinions are accepted:D
These in bold r very, very valid points. I could be convinced. +rep
 

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I think it was stated that the Hidden cloud went about kidnapping people with Kekkei Genkai or special abilities like

Kushina Uzumaki
Hinata Hyūga
and maybe Toroi who was seen as the only user from hidden cloud with Magnet Release as believed magnet release user orginated fom the hidden sand with the 3rd who manipuled Gold Dust and 4th Kazekage who Manipuled iron sand with the magnet release Jutsu as known mentioned users.
all these kidnappings happened during his rein as 3rd Raikage and Onoki stated he hired Akatsuki because the hidden cloud was creating a strong military force even during peace times
maybe Toroi was one of the few successfully kidnapped children from the hidden sand.
so i believed that the 3rd Raikage was maybe a Tyrant leader and a Bully and seems to give out a evil vibe and stated when summonded by muu wish he fought him and the 2nd Mizikage in the past by they died before he ever created a match up who probably wanted world dominance and waged conflict with all the villages and went about trying to enrich his village with talented shinobi from various villages
seeing as no shinobi from the hidden cloud is part of Akatsuki probably further tells me he was a feared Raikage and would kill anyone who would think about betraying the Cloud. lol sounds funny but hey who knows right

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I like this! That would put the 2nd Hokage on a higher level, but for some reason , I doubt that the 3rd Raikage would be associated with Gin & Kin and their squad, I think Gin&Kin r rogue ninjas rejected by the Cloud.
also i would like to add that 2nd Hokage died fighting during the 1st great shinobi war with the villages fighting one another to gain power over the other hidden villages and think about this it would make sense for the Gin7Kin bros to become rogue ninjas but come on 20 elite ninjas all jounin level or higher for the same village. Imagine 20 of the strongest ninjas from naruto going after the 2nd hokage and his team all being Rogue ninjas but what makes sense is 20 elite ninjas from the hidden cloud on a mission to track and kill the 2nd and his team. i cant see 20 elite ninjas from one village going rogue all at once but like one or two
remember villages have their secrets and could send out ninjas on a classified s-ranked mission for the sake of their villages and to become cast off when the mission is not completed because remember ninjas are tools and weapons not human beings in the world of naruto
sacrifice a few for the sake of thousands
 
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I think it was stated that the Hidden cloud went about kidnapping people with Kekkei Genkai or special abilities like

Kushina Uzumaki
Hinata Hyūga
and maybe Toroi who was seen as the only user from hidden cloud with Magnet Release as believed magnet release user orginated fom the hidden sand with the 3rd who manipuled Gold Dust and 4th Kazekage who Manipuled iron sand with the magnet release Jutsu as known mentioned users.
all these kidnappings happened during his rein as 3rd Raikage and Onoki stated he hired Akatsuki because the hidden cloud was creating a strong military force even during peace times
maybe Toroi was one of the few successfully kidnapped children from the hidden sand.
so i believed that the 3rd Raikage was maybe a Tyrant leader and a Bully and seems to give out a evil vibe and stated when summonded by muu wish he fought him and the 2nd Mizikage in the past by they died before he ever created a match up who probably wanted world dominance and waged conflict with all the villages and went about trying to enrich his village with talented shinobi from various villages
seeing as no shinobi from the hidden cloud is part of Akatsuki probably further tells me he was a feared Raikage and would kill anyone who would think about betraying the Cloud. lol sounds funny but hey who knows right

any other inputs
Cloud are Akutski-less, I never thought about that...

Who knows tho, Kalishi may go into depth (eventually) that each village had their own rogue ninja; which Akutski recruited (perhaps dying though), as Tobi and a few other Akutski are still alive...

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Hmm!!
 

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The second Hokage's fate explained - And Tobirama being involved in something important?

Impossible!
what do you mean?
the 2nd hokage was killed by 20 elite cloud ninjas remember and before he became they decond he appoint hiruzen sarutobi as the new 3rd Hokage.

you kinda lost me bro can u explain
 
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