[Theory] The Rinnegan Was Not Yet Fully Awakened When Madara Initially Awoke It

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Madara said that half of Obito's body is made of Hashirama's cells, then he said that even if he don't awaken the rinnegan(with half the body of Hashirama) he can still control the mazou.

Madara is implying that Obito has the potential to awaken it because he has half senju body.

No, he is implying that even with half of his body made of Senju DNA and the other half made of Uchiha, he would still not be able to fully awaken the Rinnegan's powers.


Although the eye of Samsara(Rinnegan) is not open, you should be able to handle this power

The eye, meaning the eye is already existing, not your eye (Obito's) is not opened, the eye in question is already in existence. Not this "hypothetical Obito's Rinnegan" you are proposing.
 
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Nice read! That would explain why Madara hasn't shown all of the paths yet.
 

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No, he is implying that even with half of his body made of Senju DNA and the other half made of Uchiha, he would still not be able to fully awaken the Rinnegan's powers.


Although the eye of Samsara(Rinnegan) is not open, you should be able to handle this power

The eye, meaning the eye is already existing, not your eye (Obito's) is not opened, the eye in question is already in existence. Not this "hypothetical Obito's Rinnegan" you are proposing.


"Although the eye of Samsara is not open, you should be able to handle this power" He is still speaking to Obito about having the rinnegan. And yet, it was never intended for Obito to have Madara's rinnegan. You can't get around this logic.
 
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Madara said that half of Obito's body is made of Hashirama's cells, then he said that even if he don't awaken the rinnegan(with half the body of Hashirama) he can still control the mazou.

Madara is implying that Obito has the potential to awaken it because he has half senju body.

↑ This.

It was very clear what Madara said.
Idk how it can be interpreted any other way.
 

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No, he is implying that even with half of his body made of Senju DNA and the other half made of Uchiha, he would still not be able to fully awaken the Rinnegan's powers.


Although the eye of Samsara(Rinnegan) is not open, you should be able to handle this power

The eye, meaning the eye is already existing, not your eye (Obito's) is not opened, the eye in question is already in existence. Not this "hypothetical Obito's Rinnegan" you are proposing.

Obito's body was literally half senju......

SO6P = Uchiha + Senju.. That is the full potential of a rinnegan. Anyone else is not close.

Obito's Gedo summoning > Nagato's gedo summoning.

Because it's completely false, he is trying to imply that Madara was talking about Obito's own Rinnegan awakening when it is clear as daylight that Madara was talking about the further awakening of his own Rinnegan. xd



He said "even if you don't awaken the Rinnegan" ;)

And even if you look at the original text it says

Although the eye of Samsara(Rinnegan) is not open, you should be able to handle this power

The eye, meaning the eye is already existing, not your eye is not opened, the eye in question is already in existence. Not this "hypothetical Obito's Rinnegan" you are proposing xd


Only Viz Translations are canon when it comes to Naruto ( when they come out). All other translations are not be the Naruto providers hence false. Sure they might have translated from the original txt. but so did Viz. =].

That translation made no sense X_X.
 

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"Although the eye of Samsara is not open, you should be able to handle this power" He is still speaking to Obito about having the rinnegan. And yet, it was never intended for Obito to have Madara's rinnegan. You can't get around this logic.

That is a baseless conjecture in your part, you are not even sure if Obito could awaken the Rinnegan itself even with Senju cells, not to mention the length of time it would take for him to awaken it if he did actually did have the potential to do so which is a moot point, therefore it is only logical to conclude that the Rinnegan Madara was referring to in 606 was the Rinnegan he gave to Nagato. The actual existing Rinnegan at that time, not your farfetched assumption ;)
 
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Madara taught Obito all the abilities of the Rinnegan and the Outer Path, shut up.
 

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That is a baseless conjecture in your part, you are not even sure if Obito could awaken the Rinnegan itself even with Senju cells, not to mention the length of time it would take for him to awaken it if he did actually did have the potential to do so which is a moot point, therefore it is only logical to conclude that the Rinnegan Madara was referring to in 606 was the Rinnegan he gave to Nagato. The actual existing Rinnegan at that time, not your farfetched assumption ;)



......You seem desperate.
 

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Madara said that half of Obito's body is made of Hashirama's cells, then he said that even if he don't awaken the rinnegan(with half the body of Hashirama) he can still control the mazou.

Madara is implying that Obito has the potential to awaken it because he has half senju body.


Obito's body was literally half senju......

SO6P = Uchiha + Senju.. That is the full potential of a rinnegan. Anyone else is not close.
Care to explain why Madara specifically instructed Obito to seek out Nagato and have him used the Rinnegan instead if this potential that Madara was talking to Obito about was so great?
 
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And you are being impertinent.


Lol well it's been fun. And no hard feelings, others are normally forced to abandon logic and show their trollish side once I'm in their head. I hope this doesn't hurt your reputation on future theories. :/ rep + for the theory. :D
 

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Care to explain why Madara specifically instructed Obito to seek out Nagato and have him used the Rinnegan instead if this potential that Madara was talking to Obito about was so great?

Well considering the fact he met nagato first, that would explain it......so you improvise.
Madara would never jeopardies an uchiha first over an uzamaki for edo tensei
 

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Well considering the fact he met nagato first, that would explain it......so you improvise.
Madara would never jeopardies an uchiha first over an uzamaki for edo tensei

I doubt that, Madara has no love for the Uchihas, it doesn't matter if Obito was an Uchiha, his non-disposability is not factored by him being an Uchiha over Nagato who was an Uzumaki.
 

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Well considering the fact he met nagato first, that would explain it......so you improvise.
Madara would never jeopardies an uchiha first over an uzamaki for edo tensei

That doesnt change the fact that he could have taken it there and then if he had the capability of utilizing it.
btw, you sound as if you're trying say that Madara gives importance to the Uchihas..the very clan that abandoned him?
 
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