Theory: Juubito's Durability

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Science doesn't apply to manga i.e. vegito fighting back after being turned into candy, gotenks screaming to cross dimensions, being able to travel into your own dimension by using a super power you got from your eye

Theres "scientfic" explanations for them though
 

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Please tell me how someone could continue fighting while being composed of chocolate

That wasn't explained though, things like Sharingan, jutsu, ki attacks are all explained I believe.
 

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That wasn't explained though, things like Sharingan, jutsu, ki attacks are all explained I believe.

Explained using rules of kishis fictional universe. Kishi's law of physics for his manga are based on what is convienient for him and not what is scientifically correct for us and juubito being indestructible is likely a route he isn't going to take
 

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Explained using rules of kishis fictional universe. Kishi's law of physics for his manga are based on what is convienient for him and not what is scientifically correct for us and juubito being indestructible is likely a route he isn't going to take

There still explained and they make sense in their universe therefore they are logical, not in our unvierse but in his universe of course. If that makes sense.
 

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After controlling the Juubi, we see that Obito was clearly able to hold on to his shakujo with his own hand. This weapon is formed from a substance(likely more powerful than Jinton) that is supposed to atomize anything it touches. That's as close to being able to hold antimatter in your hand as you can get. What does this mean? This means that there is a very high possibility that the current Obito is indestructible. Even if there is someone stronger, they still may not be able to disassemble him. He may be as solid as the fabric of space itself.

But, lets say that there is something powerful enough to destroy him, maybe Darkseid's Omega Beams or Goku's Kamehameha wave. He would just slip through it with Kamui. Of course, let's say something is so fast, it catches him off guard, he could just use Izanagi.

The Alliance has to come up with something so powerful and so fast that not only can it bypass Obito's super reflexes(likely on the scale of nano secs) to prevent Kamui, the attack has to be powerful enough to destroy something that can't be disassembled. And they have to be able to do it twice due to Izangi. The only way I can think of to do that is to have two black holes ready and launch them at near light speeds. So I think it's safe to say that the Alliance isn't winning this one by brute force.

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"Explained using rules of kishis fictional universe. Kishi's law of physics for his manga are based on what is convienient for him and not what is scientifically correct for us and juubito being indestructible is likely a route he isn't going to take"-BasedRikudo




@BasedRikudo, except that even in his universe, logic would still have to hold. A matter destroyer is a matter destroyer. If juubito is destroyed by brute force, then that very well might be a logical error that we should be inclined to ignore.

It's ok to ignore logical errors and not treat them as fact. Onoki survived having a trillion tons hammered into his head. Should we take that as cannon and assume that the old man could just stand there and take a direct beating from Tsunade? No. Should we just assume that Onoki has skin and bones harder than steel? No.
 

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"Explained using rules of kishis fictional universe. Kishi's law of physics for his manga are based on what is convienient for him and not what is scientifically correct for us and juubito being indestructible is likely a route he isn't going to take"-BasedRikudo




@BasedRikudo, except that even in his universe, logic would still have to hold. A matter destroyer is a matter destroyer. If juubito is destroyed by brute force, then that very well might be a logical error that we should be inclined to ignore.

It's ok to ignore logical errors and not treat them as fact. Onoki survived having a trillion tons hammered into his head. Should we take that as cannon and assume that the old man could just stand there and take a direct beating from Tsunade? No. Should we just assume that Onoki has skin and bones harder than steel? No.

The rock directly above him was lightened, but was it 'softened'?
he obviously didn't take the full force of it on his head, else the rock would've stopped moving..
People survive being hit by trucks, does that mean we can assume they are 'superior' to other people? nope.

It's a Manga guys, plot holes are everywhere, but don't judge, Kishi has created a whole freaking universe, with 'working scientific data on everything' ( For that universe, cmon it's not THAT far fetched, considering ).
 

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After controlling the Juubi, we see that Obito was clearly able to hold on to his shakujo with his own hand. This weapon is formed from a substance(likely more powerful than Jinton) that is supposed to atomize anything it touches. That's as close to being able to hold antimatter in your hand as you can get. What does this mean? This means that there is a very high possibility that the current Obito is indestructible. Even if there is someone stronger, they still may not be able to disassemble him. He may be as solid as the fabric of space itself.

But, lets say that there is something powerful enough to destroy him, maybe Darkseid's Omega Beams or Goku's Kamehameha wave. He would just slip through it with Kamui. Of course, let's say something is so fast, it catches him off guard, he could just use Izanagi.

The Alliance has to come up with something so powerful and so fast that not only can it bypass Obito's super reflexes(likely on the scale of nano secs) to prevent Kamui, the attack has to be powerful enough to destroy something that can't be disassembled. And they have to be able to do it twice due to Izangi. The only way I can think of to do that is to have two black holes ready and launch them at near light speeds. So I think it's safe to say that the Alliance isn't winning this one by brute force.

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Sasuke touched his enton without burning. That obviously means he's fireproof according to your logic
 

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@Mitarashi, Actually it is still quite farfetched, even for Kishi's universe. I mean come on, the impact caused a tremor the can be felt literally hundreds of miles aways. Not even an nuke has such feats. The impact at ground zero is at least on the order of several hundred megatons. Yet Onoki has not, anywhere else, demonstrated any feats that would even suggest that he could do this. Does he have 3rd Raikage's armor? No. Does he possess steel release? No. Does he have a shell of chakra infused sand guarding him like Gaara? No. He took the impact with his own flesh, soft human flesh. Is there a reason that explains why young Obito lost half his body to a bolder nearly a trillion times lighter and yet Onoki didn't lose any limbs? Even Madara and Muu were blown to pieces, and they were further away than Onoki was. That is farfetched.

When did Sasuke actually touch his Enton? with his own hands?

I only recall him using Susanoo to hold the flames. Besides, those black flames are somewhat slow burning. It probably burned slow enough that Susanoo's automatic regeneration made it seem like it was nothing.
 

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@Mitarashi, Actually it is still quite farfetched, even for Kishi's universe. I mean come on, the impact caused a tremor the can be felt literally hundreds of miles aways. Not even an nuke has such feats. The impact at ground zero is at least on the order of several hundred megatons. Yet Onoki has not, anywhere else, demonstrated any feats that would even suggest that he could do this. Does he have 3rd Raikage's armor? No. Does he possess steel release? No. Does he have a shell of chakra infused sand guarding him like Gaara? No. He took the impact with his own flesh, soft human flesh. Is there a reason that explains why young Obito lost half his body to a bolder nearly a trillion times lighter and yet Onoki didn't lose any limbs? Even Madara and Muu were blown to pieces, and they were further away than Onoki was. That is farfetched.

When did Sasuke actually touch his Enton? with his own hands?

I only recall him using Susanoo to hold the flames. Besides, those black flames are somewhat slow burning. It probably burned slow enough that Susanoo's automatic regeneration made it seem like it was nothing.

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Well, then that really does prove that sasuke is immune to amateratsu. He might even be immune to fire. Not that surprising. Mizukage is able to be immune to acid. It seems like, in Kishi's universe, fire doesn't equal impact. It's more like a chemical. If you don't react, you don't react. Ever seen game of thrones? I happens and yet, things are still logically consistent.
 

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After controlling the Juubi, we see that Obito was clearly able to hold on to his shakujo with his own hand. This weapon is formed from a substance(likely more powerful than Jinton) that is supposed to atomize anything it touches. That's as close to being able to hold antimatter in your hand as you can get. What does this mean? This means that there is a very high possibility that the current Obito is indestructible. Even if there is someone stronger, they still may not be able to disassemble him. He may be as solid as the fabric of space itself.

But, lets say that there is something powerful enough to destroy him, maybe Darkseid's Omega Beams or Goku's Kamehameha wave. He would just slip through it with Kamui. Of course, let's say something is so fast, it catches him off guard, he could just use Izanagi.

The Alliance has to come up with something so powerful and so fast that not only can it bypass Obito's super reflexes(likely on the scale of nano secs) to prevent Kamui, the attack has to be powerful enough to destroy something that can't be disassembled. And they have to be able to do it twice due to Izangi. The only way I can think of to do that is to have two black holes ready and launch them at near light speeds. So I think it's safe to say that the Alliance isn't winning this one by brute force.

It is not that hard to figure out how he is gonna be defeated.. its gonna be the one who is called Naruto;)
And what the hell with everybody here fapping on Goku? i mean cmmon that guy doesnt stand a chance.
 

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It is not that hard to figure out how he is gonna be defeated.. its gonna be the one who is called Naruto;)
And what the hell with everybody here fapping on Goku? i mean cmmon that guy doesnt stand a chance.

Did you just.
What.

No.


Get of the internet.
 

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Durability has its levels, Durability is the property which guarantees that transactions that have committed will survive permanently, indestructible usually defines that he cannot be destroyed and that is presumably false..

1. Below Average Human Level
2. Human Level
3. Peak Human Level
4. Wall/Tree Level
5. Small Building Level
6. Large Building Level
7. City Block Level
8. Multi City Block Level
9. Town Level
10. City Level
11. Mountain Level
12. Island Level
13. Country Level
14. Continent Level
15. Moon/Planetoid Level
16. Planetary Level
17. Planet Level

And these ones I bothered explaining with a little detail lol

18. Multi Planet Level (able to survive an attack that can destroy large planets, or multiple planets, three or more):

19. Star Level (able to survive an attack that can destroy a star the size of the Sun):

20. Solar System Level (able to survive an attack that can destroy a Solar system such as a large Supernova):

21. Multi Solar System Level (able to survive an attack that can destroy multiple star systems, 3 or more):

22. Galaxy Level (able to survive an attack that can wipe out a galaxy as big as the Milky Way galaxy, or the explosion of over 100 billion star systems):

23. Multi Galaxy Level (able to survive an attack that can wipe out multiple galaxies, three or more, up to around half the universe)

24. Universe Level (able to survive an attack that can destroy the whole universe such as the Big Bang)

25. Multiverse Level (able to survive an attack with an destructive effect ranging from 2 universes to all of existence)

26. Megaverse Level (able to survive an attack that can destroy a collection of multiverses)

27. Omniverse Level (able to survive an attack that can destroy all dimensions/universes)
 

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Gotta agree with OP here.
DBZ and Obito would've been one thing, but DBZ and Rikoubito are a completely nother thing.

He's a god. I don't believe Goku can touch him. And even if he does, that shield thing will burn it all off.
 
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