[Theory] Izuna Slaughtered The Senju Clan After The Hidden Leaf Village Was Formed.

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I've heavily edited it and added more Manga Pages and stuff to give a stronger support to my Theory....

The Hidden Leaf Village was formed as a result of the Senju - Uchiha Alliance....
Before The Uchiha Clan Massacre by Itachi there were a lot of Uchiha in the Leaf Village but....
How many Senjus have been mentioned in the series upto now apart from Hashirama and Tobirama..??
I mean if the Alliance between Senju and Uchiha was the reason for the formation of the Leaf Village.... then where are the other Senjus..??
The only two Senju descendants in the series i.e. Tsunade and Nawaki.... Even they are not full Senju cause their Grandmother Mito was an Uzumaki....

If Madara wanted Peace in his childhood then why the hell he attacked Konoha using Kurama..??
And when did Madara really took Izuna's eyes..??
And when and why Izuna died..??

These questions give rise to the possibility that AFTER the Senju - Uchiha Alliance was made and The Leaf Village was formed The Senjus were Slaughtered and Izuna had something to do with it....

Now lets have a look at these two pics.... It's like in these two pics Kishi is hinting us that Madara took Izuna's eyes AFTER IZUNA DIED....

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When you look at Izuna's body.... His eyes are covered with bandage which means his eyes were taken from the corpse just before his burial.... The Bandages may be to cover the marks caused while taking out his eyes from his corpse....

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Here Madara his saying "AFTER My Brother died.... he only left me his eyes and their power...."
It means that Madara took Izuna's eyes after Izuna died....

Now Izuna was alive during the formation of Konoha.... See this image first....

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It is the fight of the Valley of the end and Madara has EMS....
Madara tells Hashirama that he's different from the last time they fought as foes in a life and death battle....
And the last time would surely be before the formation of Konoha.... He said he's different because he had EMS during Valley of the end fight which means Izuna was alive during Konoha's formation....

Now a manga page from Chapter 619....

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In the above image we see Tobirama telling Sasuke about Uchiha Love.... And how the loss of a loved one gives rise to hatred and darkness in an Uchiha's heart....

But....
Then Tobirama says something interesting - "The further down the path they fall.... The more powerful their eyes become and the harder it is to reason with them.... as in Madara's case."
And interstingly Hashirama tells Sasuke, "Madara's younger brother was his world and he loved his brother more than your brother(Itachi) loved you."

Just when Tobirama is talking that Madara couldn't be reasoned with.... Hashirama from nowhere speaks of his brother(Izuna).... Now that's weird....
It's like Hasirama remembered how Madara wouldn't reason with Hashi when Hashi spoke to him about what Izuna did....

But what might Izuna have done..??

I think after the Alliace between Senju and Uchiha was formed....
Izuna Slaughtered the Senjus and in turn was killed either by Hashirama or Tobirama.... And When Madara came to know about his younger brothers death.... he got mad....
When Madara asked the other Uchiha to support him against Hashirama and Tobirama.... The Uchiha shunned him knowing it would be foolish to clash with Hashirama and Tobirama....

They had achieved peace because of the Senju - Uchiha Alliance and didn't wanted that peace to disrupt and to see bloodshed again just because Izuna did wrong and got killed and now Madara wanted revenge from Hashirama and Tobirama....

Also I think that after seeing Uchiha support them instead of Madara.... Tobirama made the Uchiha incharge of the Konoha Police Force in order to keep that support intact.... He might have thought it best to show the other Uchihas that he believed in them despite of Izuna and Madara's breach of Alliance....

As said by Hashirama.... Madara loved Izuna above all and couldn't be reasoed with when he was told about Izuna slaughtering the Senju.... He was not supported by other Uchiha and started hating them too...

See this image from Chapter 621....

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When Hashirama tells Madara that his idea of revenge is a slap to their brothers and Nakama(nakama is a japanese word for comrades,fellow country/clansmen).... Madara gets angry and tells Hashirama not to dare talk about love of comrades cause his brother was killed by Hashirama/Tobirama whom Madara considered a comrade and the Uchiha for whom he and his brother fought all their lives shunned him when he needed them most....

Also in the Latest Chapter 623 we see that Tobirama and Izuna know each other which means they have fought each other earlier.... Both seem to be their Daddy's boys who will fight each other on their Dads orders....

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My Conclusion
Izuna who was full of hatred killed all the Senju after the formation of Konoha and was killed in turn by Hashirama/Tobirama.... When Madara heard of this he got full of hatred against Hashirama/Tobirama and even The Uchiha supported Hashirama cause they knew Izuna was wrong in breaching the Senju - Uchiha Alliance....
This further fueled Madara's hatred and he left Konoha to come back one day to get revenge and destroy Kohoha....

I know it's a bit too long.... :D :D
Hope You Enjoyed The Theory.... :D :D
 
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Its already been confirmed that he didnt take his brothers eyes they were a sacrifice.
 

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Damn... Honestly, that made more sense than anything I've read on here thusfar, because you provided facts and reasoning to your theory. Good job.
 

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Its already been confirmed that he didnt take his brothers eyes they were a sacrifice.

There are a lot of things Obito and Itachi lied about.... And I have put an image of the valley of the end fight.... to support my point.... :D :D
 

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There are a lot of things Obito and Itachi lied about.... And I have put an image of the valley of the end fight.... to support my point.... :D :D

Just because they lie then doesn't mean they lie later. It's fact till its addressed and said otherwise
 

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pretty strong theory! plus rep for this one.
good seeing an actual theory that makes sense...
 

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I have 1 query ->
At the valley of the end fight, Madara has been shown having EMS which means Izuna's eyes are gone. Now if Izuna is killed by Hashirama/Tobirama then how did Madara has EMS at the valley of the end fight. Also if Madara has taken Izuna's eyes forcibly or by Izuna's will then blind Izuna could not have been able to kill senjus and hence could not have been killed by Hashirama/Tobirama.
 

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Tobirama probably killed Izuna then because Hashirama fought Madara, just a though though.
 

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i like it. youve clearly worked hard to build this thread.

maybe this is why tobirama hates the uchiha with such passion?
( he followed hashi, then maybe izuna did do this and thats why tobirama hates the uchiha with such passion. he was right from the start and thats why he doesnt agree with hashis peaceful views)

OR

Tobirama is the opposite to everyone in the sense that :

naruto is after sasuke, sasuke hurts naruto. naruto goes after sasuke.
maybe it was the same for hashi and tobi? tobi could see that hashi was getting hurt but didnt understand the whole 'friendship' business.
 

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Just because they lie then doesn't mean they lie later. It's fact till its addressed and said otherwise

We all took them so seriously earlier but the truth might be really different.... and tis is just my take on what could have happened.... :D :D

I have 1 query ->
At the valley of the end fight, Madara has been shown having EMS which means Izuna's eyes are gone. Now if Izuna is killed by Hashirama/Tobirama then how did Madara has EMS at the valley of the end fight. Also if Madara has taken Izuna's eyes forcibly or by Izuna's will then blind Izuna could not have been able to kill senjus and hence could not have been killed by Hashirama/Tobirama.

I think Madara took Izuna's eyes from his dead body.... Just like Sasuke got his EMS from Itachi's....
In my opinion Izuna killed the Senjus and he was killed in turn by Hashirama/Tobirama.... After that Madara got his eyes from the dead body....
 
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hmm. nice theory indeed..rep fr this one....ur theory is little but u gave such long proof.. gud job...
 

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Nice... Good work really...

Here is what I think about the whole thing... I believe Izuna definitely did something to get killed by Hashirama or that Hashi was responsible for his death. If Izuna really did slaughter the Senju, he has to have a very valid reason... Rest of the theory totally makes sense...

Also, Tobirama mentions Madara many times, hates him with great passion... He hasn't mentioned Izuna at all. Slaughtering of his clan would definitely make him more sensitive towards Izuna... BUT it could also mean he doesn't want to talk about it...
 
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It was cool but what if it was Madara who killed his brother because he would not change and rebelled against the leaf but when Madara seen the affects of killing his brother he didn't like them so he himself rebelled
 

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It was cool but what if it was Madara who killed his brother because he would not change and rebelled against the leaf but when Madara seen the affects of killing his brother he didn't like them so he himself rebelled

I'm sure Madara isn't so confused and insane that first he'll kill his own brother and then try to whip Hashi's and the villagers a**es for his bro's death.... :D :D
 

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good theories but not true its stated that he died on the battlefield blind fighting valiantly/honorably.
 

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good theories but not true its stated that he died on the battlefield blind fighting valiantly/honorably.

I searched for it.... But didn't get it.... So Pls show me where is it stated..??
Also Obito's and Itachi's versions aren't accurate.... So if one of them said it.... I rather would want to listen to Hashirama's or Madara's version.... :D :D
 
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I searched for it.... But didn't get it.... So Pls show me where is it stated..??

naruto pedia However, Madara's love for his brother lends credibility that Izuna willingly allowed Madara to take his eyes. Izuna later died honourably in battle, fighting to the death in his blind state.[


Izuna's loss of his eyes rendered him blind, but he managed to survive, and continued to battle. This sudden disability however, ultimately led to his death.
 

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naruto pedia However, Madara's love for his brother lends credibility that Izuna willingly allowed Madara to take his eyes. Izuna later died honourably in battle, fighting to the death in his blind state.[


Izuna's loss of his eyes rendered him blind, but he managed to survive, and continued to battle. This sudden disability however, ultimately led to his death.

But I didn't get sumthing like that in the Manga.... And Izuna's death is still a mystery.... I've just put my take on it in this thread.... :D :D
 
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