[Theory] Izuna Slaughtered The Senju Clan After The Hidden Leaf Village Was Formed.

[IKSOKRIPS]

Yeah I do....

Here is a little Timeline how things go:

- Era of the Warring States - the Senju Clan and the Uchiha Clan fight against each other in many battles.

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- Hashirma and Madara - they become leaders of their Clans and fight one another in many battles.

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- Madara's Mangekyō Sharingan - he looses the light in his eyes. Izuna offers his eyes to Madara and eventually dies in battle. The Senju Clan proposes a truce and the Uchiha Clan accepts it.

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- The crating of the Leaf village - after the truce, the both Clans formed an alliance and created the Leaf village, with Hashirama as the First Hokage.

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As you can see, Izuna dies before the village is created. :yeah:

 

[Anorien16]

Nicely put..... I had a similar theory where Madara himself was responsible for disappearance of Senju Clan, which provoked Hashirama to fight Madara at VOTE.

 

[Sherlock.]

Here is a little Timeline how things go:

- Era of the Warring States - the Senju Clan and the Uchiha Clan fight against each other in many battles.

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- Hashirma and Madara - they become leaders of their Clans and fight one another in many battles.

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- Madara's Mangekyō Sharingan - he looses the light in his eyes. Izuna offers his eyes to Madara and eventually dies in battle. The Senju Clan proposes a truce and the Uchiha Clan accepts it.

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- The crating of the Leaf village - after the truce, the both Clans formed an alliance and created the Leaf village, with Hashirama as the First Hokage.

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As you can see, Izuna dies before the village is created. :yeah:

That's what Obito just said in the Manga.... And surely the Databook is prepared using the Manga.... But there has been a lot of mystery regarding Izuna.... First Itachi lied about him.... Then Obito presented the story to Sasuke his own way....His only motive was to manipulate Sasuke.... Now Kid Madara doesn't seem to be of the type who'll first form a Truce with the enemy and then will himself rebel....Kid Madara seems like he wants the bloodshed to stop.... He won't go mad unless something happened AFTER the Konoha formation.... Plus there's simply no trace of any alive Senju in Konoha....
And I'm not saying anything on some whim.... I have used Manga Pages to put my point.... And they point towards Izuna being alive during Konoha formation....

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

That's what Obito just said in the Manga.... And surely the Databook is prepared using the Manga.... But there has been a lot of mystery regarding Izuna.... First Itachi lied about him.... Then Obito presented the story to Sasuke his own way....His only motive was to manipulate Sasuke.... Now Kid Madara doesn't seem to be of the type who'll first form a Truce with the enemy and then will himself rebel....Kid Madara seems like he wants the bloodshed to stop.... He won't go mad unless something happened AFTER the Konoha formation.... Plus there's simply no trace of any alive Senju in Konoha....
And I'm not saying anything on some whim.... I have used Manga Pages to put my point.... And they point towards Izuna being alive during Konoha formation....

So did I. . . . . . . . . :yeah:

 

[NagazuDead]

Rly good theory!

 

[Sherlock.]

So did I. . . . . . . . . :yeah:

Bro.... I just realized why you don't agree with me.... I saw your thread with overall Naruto series Timeline.... It sure took a lot of your time and energy.... Kudos to you for that.... You even said you've gone through the entire Manga to make that Timeline thread.... So its natural you would currently not agree with my theory cause it contradicts that timeline.... Bro.... Believe It.... Izuna's story is going to turn out on similar lines like in my Theory....

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

Bro.... I just realized why you don't agree with me.... I saw your thread with overall Naruto series Timeline.... It sure took a lot of your time and energy.... Kudos to you for that.... You even said you've gone through the entire Manga to make that Timeline thread.... So its natural you would currently not agree with my theory cause it contradicts that timeline.... Bro.... believe me.... Izuna's story is going to turn out on similar lines like in my Theory....

Yeah, that's pretty much it!

We just have wait and see what happens. :yeah:

 

[CAPE]

I just wanted to say that Izuna Uchiha and Sasuke Uchiha look so much alike, it is insane. I believe that when Madara see's Sasuke for the first time, he is going to instantly be reminded of Izuna. By the way, Madara's EMS is a mix between his MS and Izuna's MS which I feel is rather incredible.

 

[Kikki]

Both theories work well. I just would find it rather silly if everything that Obito told was a lie. Then every little theory we had would be trash and everything would have to be rewritten. But that's just how Kishi can play us for fools. No problem.

I've been working on an own giant and detailled analysis of the story and every week, something new comes out. It's probably the easiest way to wait till the whole story is over, then analyse it. But where is the fun in that? For now we can only work with the information that we have.

Ive always seen it more like Izuna's death still has to be revealed. After what Tobirama said in 619 and after the face, Madara showed when fighting Hashirama, I fully stopped believing that his brother killed him and took the eyes by force. There, Obito was right and Itachi was lying.

Why and how Izuna died is a total mystery though. We've yet to find it out. I've never seen him as someone who could whipe out the senju alone but I think he was very proud and obsessed by the same thoughts as his brother. He gave up his life to make the clan stronger. It could be he killed someone from the senju because of this hatred and got killed by hashi/tobi as revenge. Then madara wanted revenge too, got the kyuubi after his clan ignored his rebellion and so on. That shows the cycle of revenge.

But I'm tired of painting all senju innocent and all Uchiha guilty. We have to see the truth and it will come soon. What I really believe is that both clans had their own wrongs and that everything together led to further problems and wars. They just weren't ready to handle it yet.

 

[Sherlock.]

Does make sense. o.o

Nice theory!

Great thread alot of great points issued by everyone but there has to be more to it then this..Maybe just maybe Izuna died in a mission to protect the village and Madara feels his brother died needlessly in battle.I still believe Madara gained his eyes from Izuna likely shortly before he died. Possibly Izuna asked his brother to protect the village and it's people that his death was for the will of both Senju and Uchiha..Again as stated when any Uchiha has a strong lose their hatred grows more then likely his brother's death pushed him over the edge and he's taking his hate and pain on possibly the closest person to a brother he has Hashirama. Taking his hate to the village and everyone that went against him. This is my theroy

Nicely put..... I had a similar theory where Madara himself was responsible for disappearance of Senju Clan, which provoked Hashirama to fight Madara at VOTE.

Rly good theory!

Thank You Guys....
Also I have added one more point to the Theory....

 

[MrLukyso]

Interesting and nice, but one thing..

It cannot happen, Kishi and Manga said that Izuna gave his eyes to Madara as a sacrifice to protect the Uchiha Clan.
You can't deny Manga facts.
Plus Madara got full of hatred because Uchiha clan TURNED against him and his Brothers sacrifice was for nothing, that's why he left to come back one day.

Although nice effort.

 

[Sherlock.]

Interesting and nice, but one thing..

It cannot happen, Kishi and Manga said that Izuna gave his eyes to Madara as a sacrifice to protect the Uchiha Clan.
You can't deny Manga facts.
Plus Madara got full of hatred because Uchiha clan TURNED against him and his Brothers sacrifice was for nothing, that's why he left to come back one day.

Although nice effort.

Thanks....
Bro.... Then why would Madara say something like this....

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Now Izuna was alive during the formation of Konoha.... See this image first....

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It is the fight of the Valley of the end and Madara has EMS....
Madara tells Hashirama that he's different from the last time they fought as foes in a life and death battle....
And the last time would surely be before the formation of Konoha.... He said he's different because he had EMS during Valley of the end fight which means Izuna was alive during Konoha's formation....

I'm not denying any Manga Fact....
Also I don't think Madara was confident because of his control over Kurama..... Madara was so confident about himself because of his EMS....

 

[Black Adam]

clearly everyone is smarter than me because this theory makes no sense to me sorry and I read all of it

 

[Sherlock.]

clearly everyone is smarter than me because this theory makes no sense to me sorry and I read all of it

Happens Bro.... Not everyone think the same way....

 

[Sherlock.]

I've heavily edited it and added more Manga Pages and stuff to give a stronger support to my Theory....