the yata mirror is not unbeatable so shut up

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Lool people keep using this scan . Forgetting in the same scan we can still see the aura and not to shield. The shield didn't grow there.
 
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"Every Jutsu has a weakness" -Itachi​

1) A tsunade punch could make a crack.

2) Juubi Bijju Bomb.
Lol no tsunade punch not doing nothing to the mirror if she could barely punch threw madara susano an it won't even the complete form yet...that thing is unbreakable we gone have to accept that.
 

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The difference is: The Databook and Manga give's Yata-no-Kagami the same level of support. The history of the shield is that it was designed to be the perfect defense against all attacks; it is not just a shield but a shield that can repel any attack. Again, I'll emphasize that this is supported by both the Manga and Databook and it has thus far completely repelled against any attack trying to breech it's defenses. Unless you can provide any canonical material discrediting the shields function then it essentially mean's you're just in denial.
Where was it stated in the manga or databook that the shield was designed to be the perfect defense against all attacks?

The manga stated that it Yet we see it was unable to do that against
The databook on the other hand says that the shield only repels attacks, and then later says it renders attacks inneffective.

The manga has made tons of statements that attribute no limits to a jutsu, in that very battle black zetsu even calls amaterasu unavoidable and calls itachi completely invincible, yet obviously neither are true. Yaata has been hit with three attacks in the manga, and all three were laughable in power even by the power levels of that time. The fact is if Kishi actually wanted us to accept the literal definition of the mirror, he'd put the mirror up against an extremely powerful attack and have it reflect the attack with zero damage. Him not doing that shows that yaata simply hasn't gone up against an attack powerful enough to breach it.
 
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can you really blame Itachi Fans? Only thing they have going for them is tostuka blitz and yata hype. Maybe even Tsukuyomi but even 3t Sasuke broke out of it.

But at the end of the day, yata has never been destroyed and BZ who made the shinobi world said that Itachi was invincible with totsuka and yata.
 

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The manga stated that it 'can turn back any attack' or 'reflect any attack'. Yet we see it was unable to do that against this attack.
The databook on the other hand says that the shield only repels attacks, and then later says it renders attacks inneffective.
False. It did exactly just that, if you look closely at the scan you provided. You can clearly see the snake bouncing off to the opposite direction, hence "reflect any attack" or "turn back any attack." That's also further displayed when Sasuke ricocheted from the Mirror when he launched at it with his sword.
 

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False. It did exactly just that, if you look closely at the scan you provided. You can clearly see the snake bouncing off to the opposite direction, hence "reflect any attack" or "turn back any attack." That's also further displayed when Sasuke ricocheted from the Mirror when he launched at it with his sword.
The snake clearly didn't bounce off in the opposite direction. The snake heads hit the mirror and slid up and under it.

If the mirror had turned back or reflected the snakes attack, we would see the heads flying back towards Sasuke's direction, not hitting the shield and going up and under it.

I'll show the picture so everyone can clearly see the snakes charge did not get reflected by the mirror.
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The snake clearly didn't bounce off in the opposite direction. The snake heads hit the mirror and slid up and under it.

If the mirror had turned back or reflected the snakes attack, we would see the heads flying back towards Sasuke's direction, not hitting the shield and going up and under it.

I'll show the picture so everyone can clearly see the snakes charge did not get reflected by the mirror.
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A reflection nonetheless. And the 3rd snake never went underneath the Yata, it was completely reflected rightwards.

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This is further proven when Sasuke and his sword were reflected/bounced off the Yata Mirror

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A reflection nonetheless. And the 3rd snake never went underneath the Yata, it was completely reflected rightwards.
If the attack coming strait at you is sent to the right, then it wasn't REFLECTED, it was DEFLECTED.

Yaata was stated to reflect or The snake heads were not turned back or reflected, they were sent straight up and under the shield.


re·flect
[ri-flekt] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to cast back (light, heat, sound, etc.) from a surface: The mirror reflected the light onto the wall.
2.
to give back or show an image of; mirror.
3.
(of an act or its result) to serve to cast or bring (credit, discredit, etc.) on its performer.
4.
to reproduce; show: followers reflecting the views of the leader.
5.
to throw or cast back; cause to return or rebound: Her bitterness reflects gloom on all her family.


de·flect
[dih-flekt] Show IPA
verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
to bend or turn aside; turn from a true course or straight line; swerve.


This is further proven when Sasuke and his sword were reflected/bounced off the Yata Mirror
That doesn't matter, the same thing would happen if Sasuke's sword hit something very durable. The fact that yaata didn't reflect an attack shows that the literal statement that it can reflect any attack is false.
 

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If the attack coming strait at you is sent to the right, then it wasn't REFLECTED, it was DEFLECTED.

Yaata was stated to reflect or The snake heads were not turned back or reflected, they were sent straight up and under the shield.


re·flect
[ri-flekt] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to cast back (light, heat, sound, etc.) from a surface: The mirror reflected the light onto the wall.
2.
to give back or show an image of; mirror.
3.
(of an act or its result) to serve to cast or bring (credit, discredit, etc.) on its performer.
4.
to reproduce; show: followers reflecting the views of the leader.
5.
to throw or cast back; cause to return or rebound: Her bitterness reflects gloom on all her family.


de·flect
[dih-flekt] Show IPA
verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
to bend or turn aside; turn from a true course or straight line; swerve.



That doesn't matter, the same thing would happen if Sasuke's sword hit something very durable. The fact that yaata didn't reflect an attack shows that the literal statement that it can reflect any attack is false.
Indeed, very true.
 

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lanakui8 said:
If the attack coming strait at you is sent to the right, then it wasn't REFLECTED, it was DEFLECTED.

Yaata was stated to reflect or turn back any attack. The snake heads were not turned back or reflected, they were sent straight up and under the shield.


re·flect
[ri-flekt] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to cast back (light, heat, sound, etc.) from a surface: The mirror reflected the light onto the wall.
2.
to give back or show an image of; mirror.
3.
(of an act or its result) to serve to cast or bring (credit, discredit, etc.) on its performer.
4.
to reproduce; show: followers reflecting the views of the leader.
5.
to throw or cast back; cause to return or rebound: Her bitterness reflects gloom on all her family.


de·flect
[dih-flekt] Show IPA
verb (used with object), verb (used without object)
to bend or turn aside; turn from a true course or straight line; swerve.
No. Not in the context that Kishimoto was using the term:

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Why do you keep saying one of the snakes was sent under the shield? That never happened. Not even close. If that were the case, you would see the snake touching Itachi's feet, but that was impossible since the Yata was covering it. The snake was never able to prepositionally enter past the Yata at all. There's no image of that.

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That doesn't matter, the same thing would happen if Sasuke's sword hit something very durable. The fact that yaata didn't reflect an attack shows that the literal statement that it can reflect any attack is false.
Erroneous statement. Sasuke felt pain when he bounced off and the sword would normally break if it were to hit something "very durable." Zetsu/Kishimoto said that Sasuke's attacks were being "reflected."

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You don't call an item after a mythological mirror and not have it exhibit attributes synonymous to that of a mirror. That makes no sense. It's like calling a blade the Totsuka "Blade" but despite its title, it doesn't slice or cut at all.
 
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