the yata mirror is not unbeatable so shut up

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if thats the case than kakashi's lightning blade can cut through anything.......and as I said if you read the post you don't need to attack it just absorb it susanoo is just condensed chakra
Read again..

If the Manga contradicts a claim in the Databook then it's false. A few claims that have been contradicted:

-> Rikiri can cut anything
-> Rikiri can cut lightening (subjective to begin with)
-> Hebi Sasuke had God-like speed
ect..


This isn't the case for Yata-no-Kagami. Actually, you have provided nothing besides speculation to discredit Yata's capabilities. Your method of absorption still wouldn't work since 1) The shield can be made to remain ethereal and thus intangible 2) The shield can be effortlessly reformed----as the rest of Susano'o; it being an anchoring function of Itachi's Complete Susano'o.
 

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Of course it's not. Kabutowari breaks through it no diff

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Of course it's not. Kabutowari breaks through it no diff

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Nope..

The axe failed to go through the Shinobi's sword and only did so by the latter forced applied by the hammer. Since the hammer does not act on it's own accord but is applied by Jinin (which already discredits the claim) then it is subject to 'F=ma': The force of the axe in the left panel segment is equated to the mass of the Hammer being accelerated to a certain rate. The more sturdy the object, the more forced is required to break through. Since Jinin is a human being, then there is a limit to the acceleration he can apply to the hammer.
 
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Nope..

The axe failed to go through the Shinobi's sword and only did so by the latter forced applied by the hammer. Since the hammer does not act on it's own accord but is applied by Jinin (which already discredits the claim) then it is subject to 'F=ma': The force of the axe in the left panel segment is equated to the mass of the Hammer being accelerated to a certain rate. The more sturdy the object, the more forced is required to break through. Since Jinin is a human being, then there is a limit to the acceleration he can apply to the hammer.
They are both part of the sword's characteristic. It's by applying both that it's said to break all defenses, so it never failed

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We don't know the workings or limits of the sword since it was never showed to fail in the manga and it has hype to break Yata, so Kabutowari > Yata. keep fighting the good fight
 

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You beat me to it....:(
I was going to say that:
Didnt Itachi say that "ever jutsu has a weakness".
Anyways that jutsu was only used in one battle and only shown deflecting a sword attack from Sasuke.
Except its not a jutsu :D
I dont even need to say anything else to your fact-lacking post tough, waltz is soloing all of you :D
 

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meaning Kakashi can cut through Yata mirror....lolz

plus Kamui can also transport Yata mirror and break through its defence just like
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Lol I can't believe that there are people who would waste so much time only to debate about a sole technique which is not even in use anymore.
 

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Read again..

If the Manga contradicts a claim in the Databook then it's false. A few claims that have been contradicted:

-> Rikiri can cut anything
-> Rikiri can cut lightening (subjective to begin with)
-> Hebi Sasuke had God-like speed
ect..


This isn't the case for Yata-no-Kagami. Actually, you have provided nothing besides speculation to discredit Yata's capabilities. Your method of absorption still wouldn't work since 1) The shield can be made to remain ethereal and thus intangible 2) The shield can be effortlessly reformed----as the rest of Susano'o; it being an anchoring function of Itachi's Complete Susano'o.
OMG it's a fact that susanoo is the psychical manifestation of chakra your stupid ethereal comment is false but Ill give it to you since your bound and determined not to use common sense and realize that the mirror is not a magical item where in the naruto verse has there ever been items that work on something other than jutsu made from chakra/natural energy where did itachi get the ability to wield this so called supernatural force? anyway this is all irrelevant because itachi has low stamina anybody with a rinnegan should just be able to absorb his susanoo attacks till he passes out
 

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They are both part of the sword's characteristic. It's by applying both that it's said to break all defenses, so it never failed

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We don't know the workings or limits of the sword since it was never showed to fail in the manga and it has hype to break Yata, so Kabutowari > Yata. keep fighting the good fight
The bold was never recorded in the Databook or Manga. But you're right that neither it's hype or the claims on Yata-no-Kagami have been discredited throughout the Manga but the workings of the sword makes it's credibility much more questionable that than of Yata-no-Kagami. A tailed beast bomb [ ] which is more or less equivalent to an atomic bomb in it's scale of destruction:

The "yield" of a nuclear weapon is a measure of the amount of explosive energy it can produce. The yield is given in terms of the quantity of TNT that would generate the same amount of energy when it explodes. Thus, a 1 kiloton nuclear weapon is one which produces the same amount of energy in an explosion as does 1 kiloton (1,000 tons) of TNT. Similarly, a 1 megaton weapon would have the energy equivalent of 1 million tons of TNT. One megaton is equivalent to 4.18 x 1015 joules.
Was unable to breech Madara's unstabilized Perfect Susano'o. Are you saying a guy wielding a hammer a would be able to apply a greater force than that to the Axe? More importantly the axe itself is made of real life materials and would have to be sturdy enough to withstand a force of that measure. Since it is claimed to 'break all and any defenses' it means then that the axe could withstand an infinite amount of pressure and that the sword on a whole could apply an infinite amount of force.



OMG it's a fact that susanoo is the psychical manifestation of chakra your stupid ethereal comment is false but Ill give it to you since your bound and determined not to use common sense and realize that the mirror is not a magical item where in the naruto verse has there ever been items that work on something other than jutsu made from chakra/natural energy where did itachi get the ability to wield this so called supernatural force? anyway this is all irrelevant because itachi has low stamina anybody with a rinnegan should just be able to absorb his susanoo attacks till he passes out
Susano'o being ethereal [ ]
 
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Except its not a jutsu :D
I dont even need to say anything else to your fact-lacking post tough, waltz is soloing all of you :D
I don't know who is getting soloed to you but your not even a factor in this debate because you just said susanoo is not a jutsu which is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard on this site it is a skill used by the mangekyou sharingan which is a doujutsu.... a form of jutsu so what are you even talking about?
 

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I don't know who is getting soloed to you but your not even a factor in this debate because you just said susanoo is not a jutsu which is possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard on this site it is a skill used by the mangekyou sharingan which is a doujutsu.... a form of jutsu so what are you even talking about?
Yata mirror aint a jutsu :D
 

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The bold was never recorded in the Databook or Manga. But you're right that neither it's hype or the claims on Yata-no-Kagami have been discredited throughout the Manga but the workings of the sword makes it's credibility much more questionable that than of Yata-no-Kagami. A tailed beast bomb [ ] which is more or less equivalent to an atomic bomb in it's scale of destruction:


Was unable to breech Madara's stabilized Perfect Susano'o. Are you saying a guy wielding a hammer a would be able to apply a greater force than that to the Axe? More importantly the axe itself is made of real life materials and would have to be sturdy enough to withstand a force of that measure. Since it is claimed to 'break all and any defenses' it means then that the axe could withstand an infinite amount of pressure and that the sword on a whole could apply an infinite amount of force.




Susnao'o being ethereal [ ]
now you're trying to use real world logic when your whole argument is based around the fact that itachi is using a shield that is made out of magic and can't be touched...after you ignore the fact that Susanoo is made out of condensed chakra and claim that the shield is made out of something different... your ignorance is almost amazing to me and by your own logic the mirror and Kabutowari should both be equally treated as true because the manga states it...but no your fighting Kabutowari's credibility because you realize it's insane to think a regular sword like Kabutowari can stand up to a shield made of pure chakra but you can't realize that the yata isn't some all powerful supernatural force that can block everything..I think it's safe to say your a fanboy troll who will always go against logic why don't you just contact Kishi yourself and ask him if he meant everything in the databook literally until than come back when your not riding itachi's ****
 

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I regret making this thread and have come to the conclusion that it was stupid of me to think that logic would apply here I actually have a running joke with my friends that goes
"there are three things in the world you can't ever talk about without it causing a fight"
1.Politics
2.Religion
3.Anime
 

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I regret making this thread and have come to the conclusion that it was stupid of me to think that logic would apply here I actually have a running joke with my friends that goes
"there are three things in the world you can't ever talk about without it causing a fight"
1.Politics
2.Religion
3.Anime
4. Itachi fanboys
 
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