The truth about the Mangekyo Sharingan!
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Yeah.... But wasn't he one of the first uchihas?? maybe theres more ways to get MS, but wat if he knew only one way and it was to kill ur friend? or he though.... He never really had time to study how to get it because there was only wars and fights bak in the day..... but its just me thinking
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i dont tink he was the first uchiha cuz he said with his brother once "we quickly became recognized by our clan" suggesting the uchiha clan...im im sure there are other ways to get MS.
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Of course there is other ways!! They say that they awoke the MS during battles with each other and extensive training, and constant battles. And I dont think that they both Madara and his brother killed their best friends to awoke the MS, (Because, what would you think the rest of the clan would do if both Madara and his brother start killing people, would they just sit by and say, Cool, they killed 2 Uchihas, but hey, lets not execute them for their crimes, lets make them the leaders of the Uchiha's because they kill their fellow clan members).Also Sasuke didnt kill Itachi, he died of over use of his chakra, Like they stated many times, in the manga, if your Chakra are reduced to zero, YOU DIE. When he transfered his jitsu to Sasuke he used up all his Chakra, fall down, rolled over, and died!!! Sasuke developed the MS, right. So Sasuke got the MS without killing his brother.(Meaning, he didnt stab Itachi with a sword to death, or something like strangling him with his bear hands, to kill him). Thus you can assume that you dont have to physically, kill your closest friend. You, perhaps must witness your best friends death, and because of the feeling that you get when watching it,(Some say its the power of loss, other say it is due to the hatred that you are enraged with) after witnessing such an event.
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Now Kakashi is a spesial person, you are right with that 
I dont know how Kakashi got his MS, I think that it might be reveled in the Kakashi Gaiden, or when Kishi is going going to focus more on Kakashi's past. Remember Kishi said, that he is focusing more on Sasuke, then he is going to move over to Sakura and then Kakashi. I think, and this is just a theory, I think that It have something to do with, Rin. He got his Sharingan from Tobi, that we now. But I think that Rin was killed right before Kakashis eyes, during a mission. That is Why he said to sasuke that everbody close to him have already died. And I think that is how he got the MS.
I dont know how Kakashi got his MS, I think that it might be reveled in the Kakashi Gaiden, or when Kishi is going going to focus more on Kakashi's past. Remember Kishi said, that he is focusing more on Sasuke, then he is going to move over to Sakura and then Kakashi. I think, and this is just a theory, I think that It have something to do with, Rin. He got his Sharingan from Tobi, that we now. But I think that Rin was killed right before Kakashis eyes, during a mission. That is Why he said to sasuke that everbody close to him have already died. And I think that is how he got the MS.
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Good thoughts, but i think its just when someone close to you dies, it makes you able to get it, but i think there might be something more to it. cuz he wouldve got it years ago if it were just obitos death, and same for sasuke. his whole family died. but he was closer with his bro though. interesting. i hope kishi explains soon
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I think he already had it years ago, that is how I think he new that it is the Mangekyou Sharingan, but it really takes its toll for Kakashi to use it, sinces he is not a natural born Uchiha. I also agree that it needs to be someone close to you, one that have a very good bond.
ehm itachi said to sasuke that the only way to get MS was killing his best friend, Itachi knew that Sasuke would never do that , and Sasuke is so selfish that he didnt want to get power in same way as Itachi did .. thats why he told him that.
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Your right. He just told him that because that is the quickest way to lose somebody closest to you.
That has got to be one of the few good thories out there.......see people, this is what you get when you actually sit down & think instead of talking out of your ass......I have just thought of a theory to how u "really" obtain the MS.
So u all heard that itachi said the only way to obtain MS was to kill ur best friend right, well that may not be true. We only heard Itachi say this. Based on our facts kakashi, madara, madara's brother, and sasuke's MS(If he really has one) were all obtained through a different way. Does this mean that itachi lied? When sauske asked his father about sharingan his father told him that there are certain "conditions" but he never said what they were making us think that what itachi said is true. But why would itachi say that to sasuke? Itachi was incredibly smart so he basically knew almost evrything that would happen. At the time, did he know sasuke and naruto would become best friends? If he did then this supports the idea that itachi lied and wanted sasuke to think that killing ur best friend was the only way. He did this to tempt sasuke to eventually kill naruto to destroy madara's plans of getting the kyuubi. What do u guys think?
Basically, there is another way to obtain MS but what?
~Madara Uchiha~
I've had a theory since Naruto and Sasuke faught in the valley. During that time a lot of emphasis was put on exactly what a friend actually is. When fighting your best friend they _know_ you're attacks, defenses, strategies.. As it was said their hearts connect and they can tell what each other are going to do next. It's a challenge even beyond sharingan, precognative knowlege of the next attack. The idea being that the sharingan allows the user to already have a distinct advantage, by fighting your best friend, someone who has such a great connection with you.. it takes away all advantages and returns you to your rawest form and forces you to finally push yourself to that next level. That's why, even though Itachi wasn't Sasuke's best friend, he was able to push himself to a higher level (with Itachi's help of course), because he was fighting someone he shared a "bond of hatred" with...
At least that's my theory.
At least that's my theory.