The Theory on Spiral Man You Haven't Heard: His Connection to Everything

Bad Touch Yakushi

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Best theory I have ever read on this forum. Top-notch.

Sadly the poo jokes aren't funny and the awkward attempt at humour instantly means I can't take him as a villain seriously. The fruit though? Yeah.
 

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wow i honestly find this brilliant. it makes sense really! +rep for you. i was actually thinking while reading through this, it would make sense if spiral has been influenced (maybe) by Madara to join his side, and spiral is actually the fruit itself manifested into a vessel. The fact that hes hollow helps this seem more realistic.

I was also thinking about the fact that humans "stole" power/chakra whatever from the tree and this could be spirals way of getting back at them (either through Madara's influence or at his own free will) I think we are gonna see a massive blood bath coming up, but everyone will be brought back somehow.
 

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Remember when Madara was bragging to Hashirama about the bigger picture when he first mentioned the fruit in battle?

...The way he was talking definitely did make it sound like he had already acquired it, or was almost there. This all adds up.

Jealous I didn't think up this theory first to be honest ;D
 

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Good thought out thread. Could be correct at this point.
 

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He's back!​

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And his timing is awfully coincidental (I'll explain why later). Not surprisingly his presence in the latest chapter seems to be the hot-button topic of this week (that and the possible impending deaths of our heroes). With so many theories about who or what this devious spiral man is I can only offer what I feel to be a unique and more in-depth idea. It is something I am sure you haven't heard yet, so I hope you will be open to it.


Baby I wanna be your Mystery Man​

When trying to solve the mystery of Spiral Man, or any mystery for that matter, (I will not call him Spiral Zetsu and you'll see why), a good place to start is at the beginning.​

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This is where we first saw him. And from here we know he formed into a sentient being and went on to help Obito.

But lets take only what we know (or what has been presented) of him.

1. He grew from the Gedo Statue

2. There is only one of him

3. He is empty (unlike the other Zetsu's)

4. He has a fascination with poo (which is more important than you may think)​

So let's take the first two points.

1. He grew from the Gedo Statue

2. There is only one of him

All Zetsu's, we know, were grown from the Gedo Statue.

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The Gedo Statue is the body of the Juubi and of course the Juubi's true form is the God Tree. So as this picture depicts

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We can say that the Zetsu's grew from the empty body of the God Tree, like plants. So imagine if you will, the Gedo Statue is a tree (which it is) giving birth to all the plant Zetsu's, but only grows ONE of the Spirals.

So lets see, lets see...what can we possibly relate this too. A Tree, that only grows one of something...

I assume you've thought of it before opening the link of this picture, but I'll give you a visual anyway..

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That's right, the fruit. Who draws an interesting comparison with our Spiral Man in that the tree they bore from (which essentially is the same tree) only grew one of them.

And yes, I am here to make the argument that Spiral Man is in fact, the fruit.


So, let's move on to the third point about Spiral Man.

3. He is empty​

Spiral Man is empty, unlike his counterparts.

White Zetsu, clearly not hollow

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Spiral Man, clearly empty

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So why the empty shell Spiral? Well what could we compare this emptiness too...how about, the empty shell of the Juubi or the Mazou Statue?

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And where a full tree, with its chakra, produces a full fruit with all of it's powers

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A shell tree, with none of its chakra, produces a shell fruit with none of it's powers

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I am not going to speak on how much control Spiral Man had (if any) on Tobito. But this statement by Tobi, would make a lot more sense if Shell Spiral Man said it..


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This is why I say his timing in this last chapter is awfully coincidental.


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Strange how as soon as the Bijuu are sealed Spiral Man comes out to play? Because if he is the shell of the God Fruit, then showing up right after the Bijuu get absorbed would be the perfect time to become whole again.

Now, one theory that seems to have become pretty popular is that Yamato rests inside the Spiral we see now. They credit this to the fact that Spiral Man is using Wood techniques, therefore he must be controlling Yamato. But, I would argue that with this..

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Spiral Man's ability to use Mokuton is well documented, why would Yamato be necessary?

Another thing to note is this. Orochimaru

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First of all, I think we can all agree that this proves there is something special about Spiral Man, otherwise why would Orochimaru pause for interest. Some would say his reaction is proof that Yamato lay inside the Spiral because it seems that Orochimaru recognizes him. But I would disagree. The first time I read the chapter (before I even thought of this theory) I took Orochimaru's reaction to be that of unease rather than recognition. I think the unease we see in his expression is due to the fact that he knows how big of a threat Spiral Man is, he is in fact, the biggest threat.​

Another point I would make to strengthen my argument and discredit the Yamato argument (just to be clear though, I am not saying mine is better, both are worth discussing) is this picture here.

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We see Spiral Man using every element. In fact, the author even made sure to mention it's importance through another character..

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I believe he specifically had a character mention the use of the elements because he wanted to make sure we caught on to the fact.

When you think about it, who else could accomplish such a feat?

We know Rinnengan user's

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But where do they get that ability from, in fact where does anyone get the ability to harness the elements?

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The fruit. Don't forget that the ability to use chakra to harness the elements was a stolen power via the fruit. So it would make sense that the Fruit itself, if it were a sentient being, would be able to easily harness all the elements.


Final Point: Everybody Poops

The final point I would make about Spiral Man is his fascination with poo (yes I am being serious).​

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Sure, its funny (kind of I guess), but what the author is trying to show us is a distinct difference in personalities that the Spiral Man has with the other Zetsu. He is trying to show us, through his constant curiosity with poo, that Spiral Zetsu sincerely has an interest in humans, where regular Zetsu does not. The reason for this, I believe, is that the fruit has always wanted to be able to influence mankind, I and others have written numerous threads on this idea. I have always seen the fruit as an entirely separate entity to the God Tree. It has entirely different goals.


This theory actually goes along very nicely with some threads I have written in the past about the fruit. Seeing as how I didn't want to keep writing the same things over and over I tried not to mention the ideas expressed in them. If you liked this theory, I encourage you to read through some of the other threads I have written on the fruit, it might give you a clearer picture to what I am trying to present here.


Anyway, thanks for reading!​

My reason for being on this shitty a*s website confirmed once more. Thanks a lot buddy! Even if it doesn't come true, it was one hell of a theory and read! You are a genius.
 

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Remember when Madara was bragging to Hashirama about the bigger picture when he first mentioned the fruit in battle?

...The way he was talking definitely did make it sound like he had already acquired it, or was almost there. This all adds up.

Jealous I didn't think up this theory first to be honest ;D

No, it means there is a crack in Madara's omniscience (I don't know what if any significance it holds. But according to legend that Fruit must not be touched) it means Madara is going to be betrayed.
 

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excellent theory.

This is an interesting theory indeed. Me and Some others here on the base never believed madara being the True Villain, There's someone else or something for that matter and i believe it's the God tree or it's variants.

This could be route Kishi will go in order to introduce us to the FV (juubi).

again, great thread. gets you thinking.
 

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We see Spiral Man using every element. In fact, the author even made sure to mention it's importance through another character..

and here we see Hiruzen using all 5 elements (no rinnegan)
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i'm amazed that you put this theory together, and that you actually make the parts fit...
i could actually see this happening! =)
 
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