thats exactly what it is a deus ex machina it was the only way madara could have escaped the sand seal, similar to the season finale of legend of korra how jinora magically gave back korra her power
If that were true, there would be no reason to fear blindness with overuse of the MS. Just take any fodder eyes and use susano'o all day. It wouldn't matter.
Well my friend not all people have huge amounts of chakra to 'susanoo all day', so one has to be conservative ..... Also the entire Uchiha Fighting style is based on base Sharingan Movement Prediction, Chakra Perception etc. ..... None would accept PS2 when he can get a PS4 wld he?
I wonder if people would be making these same 'explanations' if Hinata could still use 360 degree vision despite not having Byakugan?Madara using Susanoo while blind is a asspull since it's connected directly to the eyes.
I wonder if people would be making these same 'explanations' if Hinata could still use 360 degree vision despite not having Byakugan?Madara using Susanoo while blind is a asspull since it's connected directly to the eyes.
I wonder if people would be making these same 'explanations' if Hinata could still use 360 degree vision despite not having Byakugan?Madara using Susanoo while blind is a asspull since it's connected directly to the eyes.
That's a stupid argument,if I said Naruto could still use BM without Kurama then most people here would say I was crazy.A writer should be excused for writing something stupid.
Such things been happening for a long time .... For example: Madara had a spare eye from a random Uchiha when he first met Obito, yet he was able to control the Black Rods which is seemingly be a Rinnegan power ....
So apparently it a more complex thing, Tobirama explained that the special chakra in the brain causes the Sharingan transformation, so apparent the brain is the source of Sharingan's power (So limited acess to the powers should be avaiable) and the eyes is the medium of channeling that power.
(This also explains EMS .... The Original owner already transforms the eye and then the special brain chakra of the person who gets d implants tries to change it again creating a double pattern eye .... seemingly the similarity of blood creates a resonance effect which makes it immune to effects of sight deterioration).
Also it is seen that Susanoo responds to the user's feelings and thus mental state while Amaterasu or Tsukiomy doesnt ... so its more likely that the origin of Susanoo lies in the brain not the eyes.
If you're referring to the Mist fight, Madara could have easily used black rods, the rods is HIS will... and through his connection with the mazou, he can do anything hecK, cast infinite tsukiyomi without the shinju eye being on the moon
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The zetsus are also connected to the mazou, since theu were made by it, and from Madara's yin/yang abilites excluding senju dna of couse
And if not to the mist, but to the present, hashirama had those rods BEFORE, madara got revived and also. Madara can control obito's body which he did to use rinne tensei
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He said ''Let's switch'' and the next panel shows what appears to be BOTH OF THEM saying Rinne tensei no jutsu
so maybe, madara could have activated the susanoo through black zetsu who is MADARA'S WILL. jeez, this is so easy...
Saying that is like saying he could use Rinnegan Abilities. Rinnegan is an evolution of Sharingan. Yet, he needed Rinnegan, or his other eye. Yeah GTFO.
thats exactly what it is a deus ex machina it was the only way madara could have escaped the sand seal, similar to the season finale of legend of korra how jinora magically gave back korra her power
I wonder if people would be making these same 'explanations' if Hinata could still use 360 degree vision despite not having Byakugan?Madara using Susanoo while blind is a asspull since it's connected directly to the eyes.
Saying that is like saying he could use Rinnegan Abilities. Rinnegan is an evolution of Sharingan. Yet, he needed Rinnegan, or his other eye. Yeah GTFO.
I wonder if people would be making these same 'explanations' if Hinata could still use 360 degree vision despite not having Byakugan?Madara using Susanoo while blind is a asspull since it's connected directly to the eyes.
Well they wont be making such as using the term blinded vision is actually an oxymoron ..... But do note that Neji or Hinata can Theoretically use 64 Palms to a slim degree though its unlikely that any chakra point wld be hit.
exactly why put him in a situation like that. if he had summoned the shinnsenju or ripped the gedo mazo out of obito that would have been more understandable.
exactly why put him in a situation like that. if he had summoned the shinnsenju or ripped the gedo mazo out of obito that would have been more understandable.
Perhaps Madara doesnt know how to use Shinnesenju or simply has a chakra limit or he is just using the SM for the first time? Also isnt the Gedo Mazo a huge ass tree now?
Madara is now Blind though he seemingly has a limited sensor perception .... Now has a chakra limit .... Couldnt restrain ONE Biju with Mokuton when he was an Edo ..... So lets just waste chakra on Mokuton? The Best Idea Ever ..... Lets not buy time till zetsu arrivs.
What lies beyond Sharingan is Rinnegan. To obtain Rinnegan, you need both Uchiha and Senju (e.i Hashirama) DNA. However, to awaken Rinnegan, you must reach you natural lifespan.
Summary:
Madara was "blind" (eyes were removed) eliminating his ability to access Rinnegan, but was able to continue using Mangekyou Sharingan abilities such as Sasunoo. Fans speculated that the Uchiha "special chakra" in the brain cause reaction to the optic nerve and allowed Madara access to the Mangekyou Sharingan. However, unexplained how a "blind" Madara still has access to his Mangekyou Sharingan and not Rinnegan, other skeptical viewers speculated to be a linked between either Zetsu or Sasuke.
What lies beyond Sharingan is Rinnegan. To obtain Rinnegan, you need both Uchiha and Senju (e.i Hashirama) DNA. However, to awaken Rinnegan, you must reach you natural lifespan.
Madara was "blind" (eyes were removed) eliminating his ability to access Rinnegan, but was able to continue using Mangekyou Sharingan abilities such as Sasunoo.
Note that Madara used two things .... Chakra absorbtion that is the trademark of Preta Path (Even Hiruzen exclaimed at that, and you think Kishi himself didnt notice? .... I think you guys will be screaming asspull in the next weeks, when Kishi explains it) and I think I clearly explained why Susanoo may not be a power connected directly to the eyes.
Fans speculated that the Uchiha "special chakra" in the brain cause reaction to the optic nerve and allowed Madara access to the Mangekyou Sharingan. However, unexplained how a "blind" Madara still has access to his Mangekyou Sharingan,
Well I think your not comprehending the matter ..... Susanoo ITSELF IS THE MANIFESTATION OF THE USER'S TRANSFORMED CHAKRA ... it is seemingly indicated that its independent of the status of the eyes so why being blind or half blind would matter when the point of origin DOES NOT like in the eyes?
it is speculated to be a linked between either Zetsu or Sasuke.
Madara is now Blind though he seemingly has a limited sensor perception .... Now has a chakra limit .... Couldnt restrain ONE Biju with Mokuton when he was an Edo ..... So lets just waste chakra on Mokuton? The Best Idea Ever ..... Lets not buy time till zetsu arrivs.
Better idea: Let's have him run straight at the Bijuu's and get ping ponged for half the chapter instead of using Flower Tree World , Deep Forest Emergence , Wood Dragon , Shinnsenju or a combination of all of these .
It's logical that you can't use Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi if you're blind, because those techniques require the user to look and see the opponent, and the techniques are channeled directly through the eyes.
Susano however, doesn't require the user to look at the target. It doesn't come out of your eyes, does it? You need two Mangekyo Sharingan's to unlock Susano, as stated in the manga. Never was it stated that you need to see to use it. And wasn't Itachi practically blind minutes before he died?
The power of the Sharingan is in the brain, and is channeled through the eyes when the user activates it. After it's activated, the user can predict movements through the eyes, copy jutsu's through the eyes, see chakra through the eyes, etc. The only Uchiha technique that's not used through the eyes is Susano, which is like summoning a big armor.
Therefore, the user can use Susano even after losing your eyes, for the brain has 'registred' it.
See with all these theories none of them explain why Sasuke's Susanno was fading when he was going blind, but Madara's was fine with no eyes...If anyone can give a legit explanation then I will accept the theory.
Actual I did (other than running out of chakra) .... I stated that Susanoo is seemingly connected with the user's mental state ..... did u note how suddenly Sauke clutched his eyes in pain and his other reactions at that time? ... Sasuke was feeling hateful seconds ago thus getting a stronger Susanoo, but suddenly his vision blurs as a result his becomes dumbfounded and surprised which kinda cancels the growth and when feels the pain realizes he is going blind his feels surprise and most likely fear for a few moments (not to mention tha that the pain might have broke his cencentation too thus breaking the channeling of the chakra to the jutsu) ... thus the jutsu fails.
