The SO6P is not an Uzumaki

[~Rerrando~]

The end to all of your theories, the VIZ scan:

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He possesses the blood and powers of both the Senju and Uchiha clan; the clans were once one and the Sage was the originator of that clan

He is NOT an Uzumaki

No.

Rikudo Sennin (SO6P) was Patriarch of both clans. The Senju essentially inherited his jutsu otherwise referred as his body, while the Uchiha inherited his Eyes. The Uchiha some how separated into the Hyuuga Clan, (this is why Byakuugan can read partial parts of the tapistry/prophecy in the Uchiha hideout , and the Sharingan can read what would amount to about half or atleast more than the Byakuugan ang the Rinnegan can read it all.) Now Hashirama who is at the time leader of the Senju clan, married an woman from the Uzumaki clan. The Uzumaki clan was then later destroyed.

With all that being said SO6P may not have been an Uzumaki, but the remaining Uzumaki are most likely related to him (this includes Naruto,which could lead to the idea that Naruto and Tsunade are cousins and probably Sasuke too however loosely that may be)

 

[Omnipotent]

No.

Rikudo Sennin (SO6P) was Patriarch of both clans. The Senju essentially inherited his jutsu otherwise referred as his body, while the Uchiha inherited his Eyes. The Uchiha some how separated into the Hyuuga Clan, (this is why Byakuugan can read partial parts of the tapistry/prophecy in the Uchiha hideout , and the Sharingan can read what would amount to about half or atleast more than the Byakuugan ang the Rinnegan can read it all.) Now Hashirama who is at the time leader of the Senju clan, married an woman from the Uzumaki clan. The Uzumaki clan was then later destroyed.

With all that being said SO6P may not have been an Uzumaki, but the remaining Uzumaki are most likely related to him (this includes Naruto,which could lead to the idea that Naruto and Tsunade are cousins and probably Sasuke too however loosely that may be)

I'm not denying that the Uzumaki are related to him, as the SO6P himself was basically Senju + Uchiha, and the Uzumaki are distant relatives of the Senju.

He himself just isn't an Uzumaki.

 

[TheBrightSide]

Yea I know what you are trying to say but unfortunately Manga > Your Opinion. Fine if it is proved like Tobi is Obito than I will be happy to say he's an Uzumaki and there may be supporting facts for him being an Uzumaki but him being Senju + Uchiha is a solid fact whether you want to admit it or not.

I suppose we can play that game although keep in mind it is a theory i am trying to prove. Just because at the moment the manga says otherwise, does not mean im not going to think for myself in look in depth on this topic. Although if that is true, do you believe the SO6P was born with the powers of the Uchiha and Senju both or do you believe he got their powers from the Juubi? Just curious

 

[~Rerrando~]

I'm not denying that the Uzumaki are related to him, as the SO6P himself was basically Senju + Uchiha, and the Uzumaki are distant relatives of the Senju.

He himself just isn't an Uzumaki.

O_O when i said he may not be an Uzumaki , i meant okay everybody knows he's not a Uzumaki BUT ...

 

[Omnipotent]

O_O when i said he may not be an Uzumaki , i meant okay everybody knows he's not a Uzumaki BUT ...

I understand

 

[Salad]

I suppose we can play that game although keep in mind it is a theory i am trying to prove. Just because at the moment the manga says otherwise, does not mean im not going to think for myself in look in depth on this topic. Although if that is true, do you believe the SO6P was born with the powers of the Uchiha and Senju both or do you believe he got their powers from the Juubi? Just curious

Yea I'm with you there, it is definately much more logical if he gets the powers from Juubi but who the fuck knows what Kishi is thinking.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Prove that he was originally an Uzumaki. No manga scan says so, but this manga scan shows that when the Uchiha and Senju were once one, the Sage was their originator. As the Sage possessed Senju and Uchiha blood, there was no way he could be an Uzumaki. But by your logic, Senju + Uchiha = Uzumaki.

No manga scan said so has been stated in the last post, but is pretty stupid to say in Naruto as it talks about something, and right before it finishes ends the flash back, and goes back to the real world (rin, obito, and kakshi a prime example). What you said is like saying Izuna uchiha can't use fire ball jutsu because he has never shown to do it in the manga. Senju and Uchiha were never one, they didn't exist before the SO6P had two sons make your point invalid. Sage could have been anything, but not senju or uchiha. Your post is particularly ignorant in the fact that the sons were brothers, and they would share the same family name if they inherited their dads surname. He gave them seperate family names for a reason. One would become the Uchiha who wields powerful eyes, while one becomes senju who wields a powerful body. He was something other than Senju or Uchiha, which is why I say Uzumaki, making the names senju and Uchiha up.

 

[Omnipotent]

No manga scan said so has been stated in the last post, but is pretty stupid to say in Naruto as it talks about something, and right before it finishes ends the flash back, and goes back to the real world (rin, obito, and kakshi a prime example). What you said is like saying Izuna uchiha can't use fire ball jutsu because he has never shown to do it in the manga. Senju and Uchiha were never one, they didn't exist before the SO6P had two sons make your point invalid. Sage could have been anything, but not senju or uchiha. Your post is particularly ignorant in the fact that the sons were brothers, and they would share the same family name if they inherited their dads surname. He gave them seperate family names for a reason. One would become the Uchiha who wields powerful eyes, while one becomes senju who wields a powerful body. He was something other than Senju or Uchiha, which is why I say Uzumaki, making the names senju and Uchiha up.

What I'm saying is that because no manga scan says so, yet the manga scan I presented shows that Uchiha and Senju were once one, and that the Sage possessed the blood and powers of both:

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Manga > your opinion, unless the manga contradicts itself, which it hasn't done in this situation as of yet (and likely never will).

 

[NarutoIndra]

What I'm saying is that because no manga scan says so, yet the manga scan I presented shows that Uchiha and Senju were once one, and that the Sage possessed the blood and powers of both:

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Manga > your opinion, unless the manga contradicts itself, which it hasn't done in this situation as of yet (and likely never will).

You still don't understand... Their were no ninja before the SO6P, he created the shinobi world. Meaning there also were no clans for shinobi's linking to my point, of senju and uchiha not existing before the SO6P. He decided to make two clans, one which will bring peace to this world. He got two sons, CREATED a clan called Senju and gave his son the surname Senju, and CREATED a clan called Uchiha, and gave his elder son this surname. When it says they were once one it is as in the Senju and Uchiha traits were within him, but in reality he was the one who gave the Uchiha and Senju their Surname. But the SO6P must have been something other than Uchiha/Senju which is why I say uzumaki, and could have been a reason to why it was destroyed. That's why Uzumaki's are specialized in seals, since he knew seals and was the first jinchuriki ever. Meaning he wanted for his surname (fathers surname, most likely an average civilian) to have a clan, and passed down his sealing techniques so they can keep the shinobi world safe from the bijuu. Your probably just going to say manga>my opinion again but you clearly misinterpreted the manga page.

 

[Honord Sage]

The SO6P did have a Clan the Fist Clan of Ninjas ever,Both Sons disagreed with the over all believes of The SO6P only adopting parted of His Philosophy, The Elder Son believed Might Makes Right,The Younger Son believed All you need is Love,They brook away from the SO6P Clan and form their own Clans the same happen to the other members of the SO6P Clan and their Allies each form their own Clans Villages and countries. We have a fine example in European History with the brake up of the Western Roman Empire, with its fall Many Nations were born Franks in Gaul,Visigoths in Spain, Vandals in North African. Out of one Nation many were born.

 

[Omnipotent]

You still don't understand... Their were no ninja before the SO6P, he created the shinobi world. Meaning there also were no clans for shinobi's linking to my point, of senju and uchiha not existing before the SO6P. He decided to make two clans, one which will bring peace to this world. He got two sons, CREATED a clan called Senju and gave his son the surname Senju, and CREATED a clan called Uchiha, and gave his elder son this surname. When it says they were once one it is as in the Senju and Uchiha traits were within him, but in reality he was the one who gave the Uchiha and Senju their Surname. But the SO6P must have been something other than Uchiha/Senju which is why I say uzumaki, and could have been a reason to why it was destroyed. That's why Uzumaki's are specialized in seals, since he knew seals and was the first jinchuriki ever. Meaning he wanted for his surname (fathers surname, most likely an average civilian) to have a clan, and passed down his sealing techniques so they can keep the shinobi world safe from the bijuu. Your probably just going to say manga>my opinion again but you clearly misinterpreted the manga page.

Ugh, you're lucky I can't find that manga page that says he was one of the first.