The SO6P is not an Uzumaki

[Kurama2012]

i actually like the theory that he is an uzumaki as he must have sealed the juubi as he couldn't beat it also one thing that makes me believe in this theory is, why is kishi starting to focus on uzumakis so late into the manga as he is starting to reveal members and ability's that they have so he must be planning something big

 

[Thundercles]

I like you bud but i think youre wrong. He clearly gets the Uchiha powers from the Juubi not to mention the Juubi has been shown using mokuton recently as well. Its too coincidental. The powers of the Senju and Uchiha originate from the Juubi with the sage having the perfect body to host it, being an Uzumaki.

*shakes head violently*
No, you have ZERO proof that he gets Uchiha powers from the Juubi. Also, the Juubi is using Mokuton because Obito is connected to him and making him use it.

 

[swagking]

The Sage's DNA seperated into uchiha and senju, uzumaki is distant relatives of senju, meaning uzumaki members have sage DNA.

 

[Omnipotent]

The Sage's DNA seperated into uchiha and senju, uzumaki is distant relatives of senju, meaning uzumaki members have sage DNA.

That doesn't make the Sage an Uzumaki

 

[TheBrightSide]

*shakes head violently*
No, you have ZERO proof that he gets Uchiha powers from the Juubi. Also, the Juubi is using Mokuton because Obito is connected to him and making him use it.

I suppose the Juubi having a rinnegan with six tomoe may not count as proof to some, but it is much to coincidental to throw out the fact that the Juubi has a rinnegan which also the sage was said to have and the sage was said to have given his eye powers to the Uchiha. Makes sense doesnt it? And no, it even looks like mokuton. It was growing a flower out of it at one point yes? We have never seen any bijuu be used as a channel to send out elemental jutsu yet. The Gedo Mazou is made of wood and even sprouts zetsus. Im not making baseless assumptions here

 

[NarutoIndra]

I like you bud but i think youre wrong. He clearly gets the Uchiha powers from the Juubi not to mention the Juubi has been shown using mokuton recently as well. Its too coincidental. The powers of the Senju and Uchiha originate from the Juubi with the sage having the perfect body to host it, being an Uzumaki.

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[Omnipotent]

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Disagreeing with the manga before the manga has been proven wrong makes no sense

 

[TheBrightSide]

Disagreeing with the manga before the manga has been proven wrong makes no sense

Come on you know that scan is weak evidence. The blood and DNA of both the Uchiha and Senju is what gives them their powers correct? And i think were starting to realize the powers come from the Juubi itself. Try to keep an open mind and its not so hard to believe.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Disagreeing with the manga before the manga has been proven wrong makes no sense

How has the manga proven it wrong? it would make perfect sense if he was an Uzumaki himself, Uzumaki's are good in sealing, making sense he would know how to seal and seal the Juubi within himself become the juubi's jinchuriki. Once he became the jinchuriki of the Juubi, he would gain its abilities like Naruto gained some of Kurama's abilities (healing, chakra, sensing negative emotions, maybe more to come) meaning the SO6P would gain the rinnegan/sharingan from the Juubi as well as an extremley strong body and moukoton.

Once the SO6P got kids, the abilities were split into eyes and body. The elder son got eyes (sharingan) and an intense chakra the younger son got the body which included a large amount of physical strength and spiritual strength, being capable of holding a jinchuriki without dying, and in some case moukoton. When you combined the two DNA's you would get someone who is a slight reincarnation of the SO6P. To me it makes sense, but its a matter of being open-minded and how you interpret it.

 

[Omnipotent]

How has the manga proven it wrong? it would make perfect sense if he was an Uzumaki himself, Uzumaki's are good in sealing, making sense he would know how to seal and seal the Juubi within himself become the juubi's jinchuriki. Once he became the jinchuriki of the Juubi, he would gain its abilities like Naruto gained some of Kurama's abilities (healing, chakra, sensing negative emotions, maybe more to come) meaning the SO6P would gain the rinnegan/sharingan from the Juubi as well as an extremley strong body and moukoton.

Once the SO6P got kids, the abilities were split into eyes and body. The elder son got eyes (sharingan) and an intense chakra the younger son got the body which included a large amount of physical strength and spiritual strength, being capable of holding a jinchuriki without dying, and in some case moukoton. When you combined the two DNA's you would get someone who is a slight reincarnation of the SO6P. To me it makes sense, but its a matter of being open-minded and how you interpret it.

It's debatable whether or not the Juubi itself was using mokuton or if it was only capable of doing so through Obito (as shown as when Obito raises his hand and makes a motion):

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Now you're telling me that becoming the Juubi's jinchuuriki made their gene pool mix? Because that sure hasn't been shown with Naruto:

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The Sage possessed the blood of the Uchiha and the Senju. And when they were once one, he was the originator of that clan. Don't even say Uchiha + Senju= Uzumaki now.

 

[NarutoIndra]

It's debatable whether or not the Juubi itself was using mokuton or if it was only capable of doing so through Obito (as shown as when Obito raises his hand and makes a motion):

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Now you're telling me that becoming the Juubi's jinchuuriki made their gene pool mix? Because that sure hasn't been shown with Naruto:

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The Sage possessed the blood of the Uchiha and the Senju. And when they were once one, he was the originator of that clan. Don't even say Uchiha + Senju= Uzumaki now.

well since all you did was assume things I said, your post is pointless. Yes it is debatable that Obito used the moukoton or the juubi. Your second line makes no sense so I cannot reply to that, maybe you can re-clarify it. But I never said Senju+Uchiha= uzumaki I said the sage is originally an uzumaki, and once he became a jinchuriki he got kids and made one of them senju and the other uchiha, nothing is derived from the uzumaki other than seals, it is all derived from the juubi's power.

 

[Omnipotent]

well since all you did was assume things I said, your post is pointless. Yes it is debatable that Obito used the moukoton or the juubi. Your second line makes no sense so I cannot reply to that, maybe you can re-clarify it. But I never said Senju+Uchiha= uzumaki I said the sage is originally an uzumaki, and once he became a jinchuriki he got kids and made one of them senju and the other uchiha, nothing is derived from the uzumaki other than seals, it is all derived from the juubi's power.

Prove that he was originally an Uzumaki. No manga scan says so, but this manga scan shows that when the Uchiha and Senju were once one, the Sage was their originator. As the Sage possessed Senju and Uchiha blood, there was no way he could be an Uzumaki. But by your logic, Senju + Uchiha = Uzumaki.

 

[sulanis]

I like you bud but i think youre wrong. He clearly gets the Uchiha powers from the Juubi not to mention the Juubi has been shown using mokuton recently as well. Its too coincidental. The powers of the Senju and Uchiha originate from the Juubi with the sage having the perfect body to host it, being an Uzumaki.

makes sense!

 

[Deadboy]

Senju + Uchiha = Uzumaki? Maybe sometime after the SO6P split Uzumaki into 2, a Senju and Uchiha pure bloods from each clan had a baby together bringing back the original Uzumaki clan.

 

[Omnipotent]

Senju + Uchiha = Uzumaki? Maybe sometime after the SO6P split Uzumaki into 2, a Senju and Uchiha pure bloods from each clan had a baby together bringing back the original Uzumaki clan.

Welcome to the base. What I'm trying to say that according to that guy's logic, Senju + Uchiha would be equal to Uzumaki, as that would be the clan that the Sage was the originator of.

Which just isn't true, according to the manga, which states that the Uzumaki were distant relatives of the Senju. Had they also been distant relatives of the Uchiha, which would make that guy's logic correct, the manga would have said so. But the manga didn't.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

the uzumaki theory is just a way of trying to make sense of the so6p origin (a silly way, no offence to anyone) and i agree, of course he is not an uzumaki. no clan or shinobi or special power (jutsu) existed before him. he is the origin of what we see in the series and about his origin, it was designed to be that mythical so trying to make sense of it is pointless (the theory will never be proven). next thing people will make a theory about the JUUBI's origin ......

 

[Salad]

I really think that him being an Uzumaki and the theory itself is plausible but going on manga facts. So6p= Senju+Uchiha, That's not worth arguing on until Kishi Contradicts himself.

 

[Omnipotent]

Agreeing with the two posts above me.

 

[TheBrightSide]

I find it highly unlikely the SO6P origin will never be revealed. On the other points, Tobi claimed to be Madara but he was not. Keeping in mind they are talking about a mythical figure who some didnt even believe in, its not crazy to think they dont have all the facts on him. Too many coincidences to ignore in my opinion. Im content to wait and see though.

 

[Salad]

I find it highly unlikely the SO6P origin will never be revealed. On the other points, Tobi claimed to be Madara but he was not. Keeping in mind they are talking about a mythical figure who some didnt even believe in, its not crazy to think they dont have all the facts on him. Too many coincidences to ignore in my opinion. Im content to wait and see though.

Yea I know what you are trying to say but unfortunately Manga > Your Opinion. Fine if it is proved like Tobi is Obito than I will be happy to say he's an Uzumaki and there may be supporting facts for him being an Uzumaki but him being Senju + Uchiha is a solid fact whether you want to admit it or not.