The SO6P is not an Uzumaki

[Omnipotent]

Why are you guys disagreeing with what the manga says?

The manga's correct until contradicted later on by itself, or it's just plain correct.

So far, what has been said about the SO6P has not been contradicted, and thus is true until contradicted, and it may not even be contradicted.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Im well aware it has not been confirmed. But thats as good and solid a theory that youll see on this website. If you can argue with it, i implore you to try.

If it isn't confirmed, then I'm not obligated to believe it.

If it's not a proven FACT, then there's nothing to "educate" myself about.

 

[Omnipotent]

Furthermore, who said Uzumaki couldn't use ninjutsu? Naruto inherited his ninjutsu style from Kushina, a full-blooded Uzumaki:

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No where is it stated Uzumaki were incapable of utilizing ninjutsu. Don't you think it would have been stated?

 

[Tosen]

I like you bud but i think youre wrong. He clearly gets the Uchiha powers from the Juubi not to mention the Juubi has been shown using mokuton recently as well. Its too coincidental. The powers of the Senju and Uchiha originate from the Juubi with the sage having the perfect body to host it, being an Uzumaki.

This guy is right.

 

[OnPoint]

No, it's not as simple as this. There are lots more things to take into account. And with regards to Uzumaki and Ninjutsu, it's weird because Kushina said she was never very good at it. I don't know, it's these little things (along with other variables) which make the whole Rikudō was an Uzumaki seem likely.

 

[Narutofan4203]

The end to all of your theories, the VIZ scan:

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He possesses the blood and powers of both the Senju and Uchiha clan; the clans were once one and the Sage was the originator of that clan

He is NOT an Uzumaki

Sage: From lineage that has strong sealing jutsu, he figures out the basics behind it and masters his clans jutsu, strong body, made from juubi splitting some of his yang chakra into this lineage
Juubi: Originator of all chakra, sage seals juubi, obtains rinnegan and uchiha powers (senju and uchiha)
Sage: Dies, the uzumaki clan is formed due to what he left, senju and uchiha and hyuuga are formed from his sons
Uzumaki Lineage + Juubi: Rinnegan
Uchiha: Distantly related to juubi (Their ancestor)
Senju: Distantly related to uzumaki (their ancestor)
Sage has white hair near his death like nagato
Uchiha + Senju: Rinnegan
Questions?

 

[Narutofan4203]

The uzumaki can't use ninjutsu part However, I disagree.
Kushina was just not good at it, was a misread by the guy who formed the original theory

 

[TheBrightSide]

If it isn't confirmed, then I'm not obligated to believe it.

If it's not a proven FACT, then there's nothing to "educate" myself about.

Yes but there were facts in the theory. Not saying its 100 percent true but when you look at the theory as a whole i dont see where it fails to convince you or anybody else. Thats just me i guess. Youre entitled to believe whatever you want but im pretty positive you will be eating your words eventually.

 

[TheBrightSide]

Furthermore, who said Uzumaki couldn't use ninjutsu? Naruto inherited his ninjutsu style from Kushina, a full-blooded Uzumaki:

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No where is it stated Uzumaki were incapable of utilizing ninjutsu. Don't you think it would have been stated?

As far as this goes all we have seen Kushina use was a form of chakra chains to hold down the Kyuubi which are said to make up her seal. Kind of going with the notion that Uzumaki's can only use fuinjutsu or sensing or medical jutsu.

 

[Omnipotent]

As far as this goes all we have seen Kushina use was a form of chakra chains to hold down the Kyuubi which are said to make up her seal. Kind of going with the notion that Uzumaki's can only use fuinjutsu or sensing or medical jutsu.

But have we seen Naruto use chakra chains? No, so it must be referring to something other than Kushina's chakra chains. And it couldn't be fuuinjutsu, because Naruto hasn't shown to be too proficient at that, and if you think he has, it's still no where near the level of an Uzumaki sealing master.

So, we know that Naruto inherited his ninjutsu style from Konoha. And I do think he's pretty good at it, if I'd say so myself.

If the manga says the Uchiha and Senju were once one, and that the Sage of the Six Paths was their originator, and possessed the blood and powers of both, why disagree with it?

 

[TheBrightSide]

But have we seen Naruto use chakra chains? No, so it must be referring to something other than Kushina's chakra chains. And it couldn't be fuuinjutsu, because Naruto hasn't shown to be too proficient at that, and if you think he has, it's still no where near the level of an Uzumaki sealing master.

So, we know that Naruto inherited his ninjutsu style from Konoha. And I do think he's pretty good at it, if I'd say so myself.

If the manga says the Uchiha and Senju were once one, and that the Sage of the Six Paths was their originator, and possessed the blood and powers of both, why disagree with it?

This scan was brought up numerous times by people on the other thread also and refuted every time. I believe Tsunade meant the fact that both of them originally sucked at ninjutsu. Besides, do you really think Kushina was spamming rasengans and TBBs? I doubt it.

 

[Omnipotent]

This scan was brought up numerous times by people on the other thread also and refuted every time. I believe Tsunade meant the fact that both of them originally sucked at ninjutsu. Besides, do you really think Kushina was spamming rasengans and TBBs? I doubt it.

Even still, how can you attribute their lacking skills in ninjutsu (although this was only originally) to support a point that contradicts what the manga says?

Normally I agree with you, but it just doesn't make sense to contradict the manga until the manga contradicts itself.

 

[TheBrightSide]

Even still, how can you attribute their lacking skills in ninjutsu (although this was only originally) to support a point that contradicts what the manga says?

Normally I agree with you, but it just doesn't make sense to contradict the manga until the manga contradicts itself.

We will have agree to disagree i suppose. The manga has contradicted itself before is basically all i can say about that. The rikudo sennin is a myth and Obito has lied before. Obviously the truth about him will come later so we will just have to wait

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Yes but there were facts in the theory. Not saying its 100 percent true but when you look at the theory as a whole i dont see where it fails to convince you or anybody else. Thats just me i guess. Youre entitled to believe whatever you want but im pretty positive you will be eating your words eventually.

okay, let me make this simple.

The thesis itself, is not a fact.

There was fabrication, like "Uzumaki couldn't use ninjutsu"...what?!

Anyone can put several pictures and a bunch of fabricated information into a thread, and a majority of you will be convinced.

UNTIL the theory is confirmed to be true, there's nothing I want to argue about.Who wants to argue about opinions all day?It's draining lmao!

 

[Omnipotent]

We will have agree to disagree i suppose. The manga has contradicted itself before is basically all i can say about that. The rikudo sennin is a myth and Obito has lied before. Obviously the truth about him will come later so we will just have to wait

Indeed. But until contradicted (if it ever is contradicted), this should be taken as manga fact, yes?

 

[TheBrightSide]

okay, let me make this simple.

The thesis itself, is not a fact.

There was fabrication, like "Uzumaki couldn't use ninjutsu"...what?!

Anyone can put several pictures and a bunch of fabricated information into a thread, and a majority of you will be convinced.

UNTIL the theory is confirmed to be true, there's nothing I want to argue about.Who wants to argue about opinions all day?It's draining lmao!

Yes but there were many supporting facts. If you can show me an Uzumaki using ninjutsu by the way id be delighted. Its not fabrication, it is a theory. He wasnt trying to trick anybody. And yes hopefully one day i will have the cognitive abilities you possess to not be fooled by his pictures. I wouldnt have believed it if it wasnt convincing and no one was able to disprove ANYTHING about that theory so i dont see what makes it so difficult to believe. And thats fine with me, im content to wait.

 

[TheBrightSide]

Indeed. But until contradicted (if it ever is contradicted), this should be taken as manga fact, yes?

Yes indeed it is fact. He did have the powers and blood of the Uchiha and Senju. All im saying is that he got those powers from the Juubi, and used Creation of All Things to split the powers into his "sons." I still believe him to be Uzumaki though.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Yes but there were many supporting facts. If you can show me an Uzumaki using ninjutsu by the way id be delighted. Its not fabrication, it is a theory. He wasnt trying to trick anybody. And yes hopefully one day i will have the cognitive abilities you possess to not be fooled by his pictures. I wouldnt have believed it if it wasnt convincing and no one was able to disprove ANYTHING about that theory so i dont see what makes it so difficult to believe. And thats fine with me, im content to wait.

We have NEVER seen any Uzumaki fight, other than Naruto, and he DOES use ninjutsu.

I can't understand how someone can conclude something that is so abstract!

 

[medal32]

Personally I think he is from the Kaguya clan, becouse it doesnt say he isnt

 

[TheBrightSide]

We have NEVER seen any Uzumaki fight, other than Naruto, and he DOES use ninjutsu.

I can't understand how someone can conclude something that is so abstract!

He is half Namikaze as well. And exactly! All full Uzumaki, (Karin, Kushina) have never really fought. Karin is strictly a medical and sensor type ninja, possessing powers that intrigued even Orochimaru while when Kushina helped Naruto fight the Kyuubi, she used chakra chains which is a type of fuinjutsu. Nagato is the obvious exception due to him possessing the rinnegan which enables use of all ninjutsu. Why else would Madara specifically choose Nagato to bear his eyes of he didnt think an Uzumaki was the best choice?