The Sannin vs Itachi, Kisame, Deidara, Sasori

[roflcopter]

so itachi rips 5 of 6 bodies and then seals god realm with susano,what's wrong with this idea?
+genjutsu is pain's weak spot.Have u seen anyone who used genjustsu better than Itachi?-sasuke???pain is just weak vs itachi's moves.using chibaku tensei in an illusion isn't the way to win for pain

what will he rip those 5 bodies with? God realm wont be disabled.

Genjutsu works on 1 body. Pein can just disable that body for a moment and voila, no genjutsu, I mean it works on a corpse then which is just useless. Who said genjutsu is his weak spot, we actually havent seen anyone using a genjutsu on 6 paths of pein. The mere 3 noob paths were influenced by genjutsu but Pein was just testing JIrayas power.

PLus, a way to break genjutsu is so disturb chakra and Pein is really good at it.



I mean, it is said that Rinnegan is the strongest doujutsu, stronger than Byakugan and Sharingan, the founder of this world had rinnegan. No way can a cheap MS technique defeat a rinnegan.
And we also dont know if Rinnegan can withstand Tsykuomi, maybe it can, since it's stronger than sharingan.


and, one more thing. Itachi hasnt got neraly enough raw power as 6tails, that was pwnd by Chibaku.

That leaves Susanoo as Itachi's only hope. And we still dont know if Susanoo can be influenced by CHibaku tensei or SHinra tensei or anything else.

Dont make a god out of Itachi. He was a jutsu master, but whos powers canbe realy compared to gods is Pein and only Pein.

 

[almasyan]

what will he rip those 5 bodies with? God realm wont be disabled.

Genjutsu works on 1 body. Pein can just disable that body for a moment and voila, no genjutsu, I mean it works on a corpse then which is just useless. Who said genjutsu is his weak spot, we actually havent seen anyone using a genjutsu on 6 paths of pein. The mere 3 noob paths were influenced by genjutsu but Pein was just testing JIrayas power.

PLus, a way to break genjutsu is so disturb chakra and Pein is really good at it.



I mean, it is said that Rinnegan is the strongest doujutsu, stronger than Byakugan and Sharingan, the founder of this world had rinnegan. No way can a cheap MS technique defeat a rinnegan.
And we also dont know if Rinnegan can withstand Tsykuomi, maybe it can, since it's stronger than sharingan.


and, one more thing. Itachi hasnt got neraly enough raw power as 6tails, that was pwnd by Chibaku.

That leaves Susanoo as Itachi's only hope. And we still dont know if Susanoo can be influenced by CHibaku tensei or SHinra tensei or anything else.

Dont make a god out of Itachi. He was a jutsu master, but whos powers canbe realy compared to gods is Pein and only Pein.

No no,i don't want to make god of itachi.But Pain being god is nonsense.may be naruto won't beat him without info he was told by jman and others but still madara is rulling in akatsuki not pain.It means smthing.
5 of those bodies is nothing vs itachi.u meant what u meant when u said "mere 3 bodies"-they are just trash.
About god realm-don't forget that yahiko body actually doesn't have rinnegan,nagato has.others bodies were captured by genjutsu,so why god realm won't?
j-man said that it's not always works stopping flow of chakra to break illusion.naruto stopped it and still nothing happened.do u think there will be difference between stoping chakra in naruto and pain?
ye we don't know how chibaku and shinra tensei would influence on susano,but it's a weapon from ghost's world or how can i call it?can physical attack influence on it?here we can only make theories.
9tails was controled by sharingan as far as i remember.so what 6tailed fox would do to itachi?ofcourse itachi isn't madara but we don't know-may be he can control the fox.
the thing that can make me think pain>itachi is that if nagato himself can make smth...smth like "WOW KISHI is a crazy man with weird imagination"

 

[Nameer]

Itachi alone is enough for the 3 Sannin
what can the 3 sannin do if Itachi use Susanoo???
we all know that Orochimaru was finished with one attack by Totsuka sword
Itachi's Genjutsu "Tsukuyomi" is not a normal Genjutsu he can trap them all with it
I think Clone Great Explosion Jutsu is enough for the 3 sannin

about Sasori,Sasori is strong too despite he is the first one defeated in Akatsuki,he lost because of Chiyo knowledge in puppets,I think with one partner can get rid of the sannin

Kisame,we saw kisame fighting against Gai Team(which contents two Jonin) and that was only clone using 30% from his original Chakra.Kisame also win the sannin if he has one partner.

and Deidara is also strong because non of the three has long range attack and also who can bring Deidara to the ground from his bird,even Garra lose to him while he has long rang attack and Garra is in Kage level
so Deidara win.

 

[huyoko]

Itachi alone is enough for the 3 Sannin
what can the 3 sannin do if Itachi use Susanoo???
we all know that Orochimaru was finished with one attack by Totsuka sword
Itachi's Genjutsu "Tsukuyomi" is not a normal Genjutsu he can trap them all with it
I think Clone Great Explosion Jutsu is enough for the 3 sannin

about Sasori,Sasori is strong too despite he is the first one defeated in Akatsuki,he lost because of Chiyo knowledge in puppets,I think with one partner can get rid of the sannin

Kisame,we saw kisame fighting against Gai Team(which contents two Jonin) and that was only clone using 30% from his original Chakra.Kisame also win the sannin if he has one partner.

and Deidara is also strong because non of the three has long range attack and also who can bring Deidara to the ground from his bird,even Garra lose to him while he has long rang attack and Garra is in Kage level
so Deidara win.

great post

 

[steinbiz555]

this is way off topic, but the only reason naruto beat pain was because he gathered all of konoha's info on pain plus pain's strongest body was disabled half the fight. if sage naruto and pain fought at full power from the start and with naruto having no knowledge of pains abilities, naruto would have been defeated.

 

[Typhon]

this is way off topic, but the only reason naruto beat pain was because he gathered all of konoha's info on pain plus pain's strongest body was disabled half the fight. if sage naruto and pain fought at full power from the start and with naruto having no knowledge of pains abilities, naruto would have been defeated.

Hell even in the normal fight with Pain not at full strength Naruto lost. It was only because Hinata tried to save him that he was able to break free after being trapped.

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

Itachi alone is enough for the 3 Sannin
what can the 3 sannin do if Itachi use Susanoo???
we all know that Orochimaru was finished with one attack by Totsuka sword
Itachi's Genjutsu "Tsukuyomi" is not a normal Genjutsu he can trap them all with it
I think Clone Great Explosion Jutsu is enough for the 3 sannin

about Sasori,Sasori is strong too despite he is the first one defeated in Akatsuki,he lost because of Chiyo knowledge in puppets,I think with one partner can get rid of the sannin

Kisame,we saw kisame fighting against Gai Team(which contents two Jonin) and that was only clone using 30% from his original Chakra.Kisame also win the sannin if he has one partner.

and Deidara is also strong because non of the three has long range attack and also who can bring Deidara to the ground from his bird,even Garra lose to him while he has long rang attack and Garra is in Kage level
so Deidara win.

what i think everyone is forgettin about itachi is that he cant use his eyes forever, so all the sannin have to do is avoid his attacks till he burns out his own eyes, we know tsunade is a master at this, and jman is fast enough in sage mode to dodge, and oro just throws up his body to avoid them. also when oro got pwned by itachi he was standing right next to him, i think we should address how this battle begins, im guessin the sannin are together and the akatsuki are together so i doubt oro gets pwned by the sharingan in the beginning of the fight

and about kisame, yes itachi only said that about jman cause he was loyal to konoha, but kisame said it because he truly believed he was weaker than jman. i absolutely LOVE how people have avoided that point

and sasori get killed by tsunade cause she use her mitonic regeneration after gettin hit by a poison needle, then she just runs straight through the rest and smashes sasori into dust lol

and deidara, well if jman is in sage mode doesnt he see natural energy, so wouldnt he see something like earth element jutsu floatin in the air??? and we know jman's elemental affinities, one being earth if im not mistaken so wouldnt he have a way to counteract another earth jutsu?? thats just speculation on my part but i think he is strong enough to have learned somethin like that, also since oro absorbs people during the soul transfer doesnt he absorb their abilities??? so is it unreasonable to think he has absorbed a lightning user??? (does anyone else think that sasuke would have needed help developing chidori to where it is today?? especially kirin??) also all jman has to do is summon gama and then they can jump up to where deidara is and burn his up with an oil fire combo

 

[peaceful]

what i think everyone is forgettin about itachi is that he cant use his eyes forever, so all the sannin have to do is avoid his attacks till he burns out his own eyes, we know tsunade is a master at this, and jman is fast enough in sage mode to dodge, and oro just throws up his body to avoid them. also when oro got pwned by itachi he was standing right next to him, i think we should address how this battle begins, im guessin the sannin are together and the akatsuki are together so i doubt oro gets pwned by the sharingan in the beginning of the fight

and about kisame, yes itachi only said that about jman cause he was loyal to konoha, but kisame said it because he truly believed he was weaker than jman. i absolutely LOVE how people have avoided that point

and sasori get killed by tsunade cause she use her mitonic regeneration after gettin hit by a poison needle, then she just runs straight through the rest and smashes sasori into dust lol

and deidara, well if jman is in sage mode doesnt he see natural energy, so wouldnt he see something like earth element jutsu floatin in the air??? and we know jman's elemental affinities, one being earth if im not mistaken so wouldnt he have a way to counteract another earth jutsu?? thats just speculation on my part but i think he is strong enough to have learned somethin like that, also since oro absorbs people during the soul transfer doesnt he absorb their abilities??? so is it unreasonable to think he has absorbed a lightning user??? (does anyone else think that sasuke would have needed help developing chidori to where it is today?? especially kirin??) also all jman has to do is summon gama and then they can jump up to where deidara is and burn his up with an oil fire combo

OMG. Your retardness has no end.
Tell me how would the Sannins defeat Sasori? The question should have been. Sasori vs Tsunade,Jiraya,Orochimaru. Who wins?

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

Genjutsu works on 1 body. Pein can just disable that body for a moment and voila, no genjutsu, I mean it works on a corpse then which is just useless. Who said genjutsu is his weak spot, we actually havent seen anyone using a genjutsu on 6 paths of pein. The mere 3 noob paths were influenced by genjutsu but Pein was just testing JIrayas power.

PLus, a way to break genjutsu is so disturb chakra and Pein is really good at it.

if thats true then why did ma and pa's genjutsu work on three bodies at once??? and nagato didnt break them out of it??? sorry but i think itachi beats pain if only because he has yata's mirror which protects him from all attacks, and all he has to do is use the sword of totsuka to seal every single pain body, zetsu said it himself, yata's mirror combined with totsuka makes itachi invincible

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

OMG. Your retardness has no end.
Tell me how would the Sannins defeat Sasori? The question should have been. Sasori vs Tsunade,Jiraya,Orochimaru. Who wins?

really i am so retarded?? if your so smart why did you only touch on one of my points?? and also, pls tell me how sasori beats even one of the sannin??

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

OMG. Your retardness has no end.
Tell me how would the Sannins defeat Sasori? The question should have been. Sasori vs Tsunade,Jiraya,Orochimaru. Who wins?

also how old are you dude?? 14, 15?? this is an online forum for debate, and yet you took it to a whole new level with your "OMG your retardness(which isn't even a real word haha) has no end" comment, when did i ever once personally attack you??? if your going to try and create dialogue with me then please do it right. dont just use a brash statement like "oh your a retard" to discredit me

 

[TOBI!]

what i think everyone is forgettin about itachi is that he cant use his eyes forever, so all the sannin have to do is avoid his attacks till he burns out his own eyes, we know tsunade is a master at this, and jman is fast enough in sage mode to dodge, and oro just throws up his body to avoid them. also when oro got pwned by itachi he was standing right next to him, i think we should address how this battle begins, im guessin the sannin are together and the akatsuki are together so i doubt oro gets pwned by the sharingan in the beginning of the fight

true but itachi is smart enough not to just waste his MS on targets he can't hit so he would wait until he could hit the sanin :|

and about kisame, yes itachi only said that about jman cause he was loyal to konoha, but kisame said it because he truly believed he was weaker than jman. i absolutely LOVE how people have avoided that point

erm k that doesn't mean he is weaker than oro or tsunade

and sasori get killed by tsunade cause she use her mitonic regeneration after gettin hit by a poison needle, then she just runs straight through the rest and smashes sasori into dust lol

and deidara, well if jman is in sage mode doesnt he see natural energy, so wouldnt he see something like earth element jutsu floatin in the air??? and we know jman's elemental affinities, one being earth if im not mistaken so wouldnt he have a way to counteract another earth jutsu?? thats just speculation on my part

yup just speculation and besides what kind of earth jutsu would counter it anways?

but i think he is strong enough to have learned somethin like that, also since oro absorbs people during the soul transfer doesnt he absorb their abilities??? so is it unreasonable to think he has absorbed a lightning user??? (does anyone else think that sasuke would have needed help developing chidori to where it is today?? especially kirin??)

its not nnreasonable to think this but oro never uses lightning jutsus even if he has them so he wouldn't be able to discover that they counter dei-dei even if he does have them

also all jman has to do is summon gama and then they can jump up to where deidara is and burn his up with an oil fire combo

:| all dei-dei has to do is hit an overly large target with his bombs to stop this

 

[steinbiz555]

sageofmyoukubo is right, if all 3 sannin fought itachi, they would completely rape him. if e brought out susano'o which he would be forced to do, they would just avoid the sword with teamwork, jiraiya's hermit mode or toad mouth trap is enough to stop susano'o. and yes orochimaru was hit by susano'o but he came out not noing the situation and all frusterated. since orochimaru was blinded by psychoness, he was stabbed. plus, one could actually call orochimaru the strongest in the entire show because of reanimation. if he summons 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th hokage.......the fight is over FOR ANYONE.

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

true but itachi is smart enough not to just waste his MS on targets he can't hit so he would wait until he could hit the sanin :|



erm k that doesn't mean he is weaker than oro or tsunade





yup just speculation and besides what kind of earth jutsu would counter it anways?


its not nnreasonable to think this but oro never uses lightning jutsus even if he has them so he wouldn't be able to discover that they counter dei-dei even if he does have them



:| all dei-dei has to do is hit an overly large target with his bombs to stop this

the itachi point i agree with you on, it was the only way i could see them beatin him since itachi is invincible with yata's mirror and totsuka lol

does it matter if oro or tsunade is stronger if jman can beat him??

i dont know what kind of earth jutsu would counteract it, i was just speculating but maybe because he sees them in sage mode he tells tsunade and oro, they hold their breath and get out of the bomb mist???

question...oro has full use of his arms in this battle right?? or no?? if he does than im guessin he uses his all jutsu's in his arsenal, we have really barely seen him use jutsu at all in naruto because for the most part he hasnt had his arms. and he chose to use the bodies of the 1st and 2nd hokages as a way to toy with the 3rd so unless kishi were to come out and say oro can use this and this and this we will never know

he may have a large target but jman and gama use oil-fire combo as a shield, and jman is able to track deidara's movement behind the fire with sage mode

honestly now that we keep gettin more in depth on this battle its becoming more and more apparent how little we know about oro and kisame's full arsenal of abilities, or how a 4 v 3 fight would work out ya know? and did we decide on where they are fightin cause in a wide open field sasori i feel is the most hindered because it gives the sannin more room to avoid his attacks, if they are in a city then deidara is hindered and sasori has a huge advantage.

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

sageofmyoukubo is right, if all 3 sannin fought itachi, they would completely rape him. if e brought out susano'o which he would be forced to do, they would just avoid the sword with teamwork, jiraiya's hermit mode or toad mouth trap is enough to stop susano'o. and yes orochimaru was hit by susano'o but he came out not noing the situation and all frusterated. since orochimaru was blinded by psychoness, he was stabbed. plus, one could actually call orochimaru the strongest in the entire show because of reanimation. if he summons 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th hokage.......the fight is over FOR ANYONE.

woah i didnt say itachi would get raped dude, i said they would have to avoid everyone one of his attacks, which would be very difficult while fighting 3 other people, personally itachi beats everyone in the manga in my book, because he has yata's mirror and totsuka, he is basically invincible. the only people i see on equal footing with itachi is the 4th and madara, although i think madara is a lil ***** for using the kyuubi to fight his battles, so the ultimate battle in my book is itachi vs the 4th, but that topic is for another day

 

[TOBI!]

does it matter if oro or tsunade is stronger if jman can beat him??

yes, becuase you are doing the same thing as someone else, putting most of the akatsuki agenst jman becuase he is the strongest of the three. even though he may be able to defeat them in 1v1 you are making in like 3v1

i dont know what kind of earth jutsu would counteract it, i was just speculating but maybe because he sees them in sage mode he tells tsunade and oro, they hold their breath and get out of the bomb mist???

i think it can get into your body through more than just your breath but anyways, just speculation right

question...oro has full use of his arms in this battle right?? or no?? if he does than im guessin he uses his all jutsu's in his arsenal, we have really barely seen him use jutsu at all in naruto because for the most part he hasnt had his arms. and he chose to use the bodies of the 1st and 2nd hokages as a way to toy with the 3rd so unless kishi were to come out and say oro can use this and this and this we will never know

well ill say this is the oro around the time he fought the 4 tails, so basically his peak, come to think of it oro never (that i can remeber) uses a jutsu not related to his sword or snakes.

he may have a large target but jman and gama use oil-fire combo as a shield, and jman is able to track deidara's movement behind the fire with sage mode

well i guess it just becomes a matter of which is faster, also if dei-dei has them set up, jiriayas frog summonings would get destroyed by mines, but as ive said before if he has them set up

honestly now that we keep gettin more in depth on this battle its becoming more and more apparent how little we know about oro and kisame's full arsenal of abilities, or how a 4 v 3 fight would work out ya know? and did we decide on where they are fightin cause in a wide open field sasori i feel is the most hindered because it gives the sannin more room to avoid his attacks, if they are in a city then deidara is hindered and sasori has a huge advantage.

yea we don't kno where they are fighting XD some thread maker never specified that. but idk lets assume they are fighting outside the building where asuma died. XD

 

[Nameer]

what i think everyone is forgettin about itachi is that he cant use his eyes forever, so all the sannin have to do is avoid his attacks till he burns out his own eyes, we know tsunade is a master at this, and jman is fast enough in sage mode to dodge, and oro just throws up his body to avoid them. also when oro got pwned by itachi he was standing right next to him, i think we should address how this battle begins, im guessin the sannin are together and the akatsuki are together so i doubt oro gets pwned by the sharingan in the beginning of the fight

and about kisame, yes itachi only said that about jman cause he was loyal to konoha, but kisame said it because he truly believed he was weaker than jman. i absolutely LOVE how people have avoided that point

and sasori get killed by tsunade cause she use her mitonic regeneration after gettin hit by a poison needle, then she just runs straight through the rest and smashes sasori into dust lol

and deidara, well if jman is in sage mode doesnt he see natural energy, so wouldnt he see something like earth element jutsu floatin in the air??? and we know jman's elemental affinities, one being earth if im not mistaken so wouldnt he have a way to counteract another earth jutsu?? thats just speculation on my part but i think he is strong enough to have learned somethin like that, also since oro absorbs people during the soul transfer doesnt he absorb their abilities??? so is it unreasonable to think he has absorbed a lightning user??? (does anyone else think that sasuke would have needed help developing chidori to where it is today?? especially kirin??) also all jman has to do is summon gama and then they can jump up to where deidara is and burn his up with an oil fire combo

who can escape eye sight?
Amaterasu is unavoidable jutsu no one can avoid it and if you depend on the fight between Saskue and Itachi it was all fake Itachi won't want Saskue get killed he just acting by make the black flames chasing him and when it reached saskue he turned it off at once,simply Itachi can get rid of the sannin by Amaterasu in a few seconds
and Tsukuyomi ,he can kill them by Tsukuyomi if he get real in a few seconds also
a few seconds in real world = days in Tsukuyomi world
btw what can the sannin do if Itachi used Susanoo?????????????????

Sasori get killed by Tsunade loool
Sasori get killed by Sakura & Chiyo not Tsunade and the reason of his defeat is Chiyo's knowledge in puppets.

kisame is Itachi's partner so he believe in Itachi especially when Itachi talking about Jiraiya "Every strong man has a weak spot" (as I remember Jiraiya weak spot was a girl) which make Kisame believe that Jiraiya is more stronger than Itachi

and about Deidara I have no comment because your Idea is too weak.

Edit: all Akatsuki's member are equal or above kage level (the only one who is low level is Hidan because of his foolishness (in my opinion))

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

yes, becuase you are doing the same thing as someone else, putting most of the akatsuki agenst jman becuase he is the strongest of the three. even though he may be able to defeat them in 1v1 you are making in like 3v1


i think it can get into your body through more than just your breath but anyways, just speculation right



well ill say this is the oro around the time he fought the 4 tails, so basically his peak, come to think of it oro never (that i can remeber) uses a jutsu not related to his sword or snakes.



well i guess it just becomes a matter of which is faster, also if dei-dei has them set up, jiriayas frog summonings would get destroyed by mines, but as ive said before if he has them set up



yea we don't kno where they are fighting XD some thread maker never specified that. but idk lets assume they are fighting outside the building where asuma died. XD

i get what your saying with your first point, and the reason for this is because its hard to say how a 4 v 3 fight would work, personally i think the thread creator greatly underestimated the strength of akatsuki to the sannins, a 3 v 3 fight would have been much better to compare

and ya i dont know how the c4 dust gets into your system if its just through skin tissue then the sannin are fk'ed

eh i wouldnt say oro at 4 tails was his peak, remember that it was about the time his body was rejecting him, i would say oro who invaded konoha was oro at his peak, and also that was when oro was able to use his jutsu still

and i would say that if this was a straight up fight deidara would not be able to set up the mines because that would give him an unfair advantage, ill give you the mines if oro already has the hokages ready to fight, but im sure someone will say thats unfair to have the hokages out already, but so is having the mines so i think no one has anythin set up...sound fair??

and the place where asuma fought hidan is fine by me unless other people on this thread have objections

 

[izzy89]

I've read a few posts on here and someone said that a lot of individuals overestimate Jiraiya.......well there are those that overestimate Itachi the same. Jiraiya's Hermit mode renders Itachi genjutsu & tsukyomi useless because of ma & pa frog constantly gathering sage chakra (this is an assumption, but it seems logical). Comparing their speed, I don't know, but Itachi will be forced to use either Amaterasu or Susanoo(not sure if I'm spelling it correctly). Jiraiya can counter Amaterasu if need be using that toad stomache(?) jutsu to block the attack. Itachi can't use Amaterasu carelessly because it doesn't work like that. Finally, I don't know how Jiraiya would counter Susanoo, but I'm guessing that move doesn't last long and does Itachi have enough willpower to block Jiraiya's genjutsu while having Susanoo in effect? Does Susanoo block against genjutsu also? I said all of that to say this, if Jiraiya will give Itachi that much trouble, could he really handle ALL of the Sannin before his Chakra runs out????

 

[Alucard]

Itachi>Oro with ease
Kisame>tsunade
Sasori and Deidara >Jiraya