The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

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Defeated? Devastated? How can you even apply those words to this situation. I offered my opinion and you bashed them and subsequently called me a retard. You have no idea what's going to happen, so anyone's opinion (Barring extreme uncertainties) is as valid as the next one.

All I heard from your argument was "YUR ARGUMENTZ WUZ BAD BECUZ ITS BAD LOGIK ND UR A RETARD"...

 

[Theserpent]

Defeated? Devastated? How can you even apply those words to this situation.

They apply to you. I don't expect someone so obviously mentally deficient to understand that.

I offered my opinion and you bashed them and subsequently called me a retard. You have no idea what's going to happen, so anyone's opinion (Barring extreme uncertainties) is as valid as the next one.

You offered your opinion, yes, and I told you why you were wrong. No, your opinion is not as valid as my facts because you are wrong. He's not an uzumaki, Kishimoto stated this. I already told you how, thoroughly. You are just stupid.

All I heard from your argument was "YUR ARGUMENTZ WUZ BAD BECUZ ITS BAD LOGIK ND UR A RETARD"...

If that's all you comprehended, then I have bad news for you. You are a retard. A HUMAN would realize that I addressed every single one of your points and thoroughly debunked them.

 

[Transcendence]

I would like a source where Kishimoto state the S06P was not an Uzumaki. I am clearly not mentally deficient, just another ad hominem applied to this "argument" because you have nothing else. I seriously think you're mad all the time, since you take the time to bash and attack people with vulgar/derogatory language on a Naruto forum of all places!

What a joke.

 

[goldendookie]

Nagato only had the rinnegan because Madara gave it to him. Madara awakened his rinnegan before he died.

 

[FearxDeath]

Agreed, however, it then stands to reason that the Uzumakis then come into things.



That doesn't change the fact that there is absolutely NO evidence to support that uzumaki's get "increased" capabilities with the Rinnengan.



Their connection with the SO6P is the same as the uchiha and senju, they originate from him.



Well, I don't care what you "feel" your feelings are flawed and they aren't a viable alternative to actual logic.

Ill report what I said before:

Think about it, when obito transfered his Sharingan to Kakashi it already had the 2nd tomie unlocked. The same thing can go for the rinnegan. I mean there is litterally NO reason for Madara to give something as extremely valuable as the rinnegan to some kid in one of the deadliest villages in the fire country, does the name blood mist village ring any bells?

What if he needed an uzimaki, who are known for there strong life energy, to unlock the abilities of the rinnegan for him, that way when he took them back he could use them. He doesnt have to worry about them taking up too much chakra or stamina because as an edo tensei he has an unlimited ammount. It is also why Obito doesnt use it because since he is not under the edo tensei him using the rinnegan would do to him what MS does to kakashi but most likely even more so because the rinnegans abilities are stronger.

Also keep in mind that the 9 tails host has always been uzimaki's, also keep in mind that Naruto's bijuu mode looks alot like the SO6P, perhaps the uzimaki are decendants of him if not hashirama.

 

[Theserpent]

I would like a source where Kishimoto state the S06P was not an Uzumaki.

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Right there, it states that he is the two bloodlines in one person, i.e. he is the proginator of the two clans. Are you saying that the senju created the Uchiha by suggesting the S06P was an uzumamki? If you are, you'd be going into the realm of "Full Retard".

I am clearly not mentally deficient, just another ad hominem applied to this "argument" because you have nothing else. I seriously think you're mad all the time, since you take the time to bash and attack people with vulgar/derogatory language on a Naruto forum of all places!

I don't have "nothing else", as I've been proving you wrong this entire thread. You didn't even reply to my latest rebuttal. I also haven't been attacking you. If anything you've been attacking ME by luring me into reading your sorry excuse for posts under the pretense of an intelligent debate. Is it wrong to call a dog a dog if you see it behave like a dog and look like a dog and bark like a dog and smell like a dog? Is it wrong to call someone intelligent if they display a great wit and capability for logic? Is it wrong to say a monkey isn't as smart as a human when it doesn't display human intellect? Then is it wrong to call a sub-human out on being a sub-human, when they show a sub-human level of intellect? No, it's not. If you don't want to be called out on being as ub-human, disguise your stupidity better(preferably by not even posting).

What a joke.

Yeah, you're a waste. The fact you keep making such worthless replies is PATHETIC.

 

[Theserpent]

Ill report what I said before:

Think about it, when obito transfered his Sharingan to Kakashi it already had the 2nd tomie unlocked. The same thing can go for the rinnegan. I mean there is litterally NO reason for Madara to give something as extremely valuable as the rinnegan to some kid in one of the deadliest villages in the fire country, does the name blood mist village ring any bells?

Except all of the power from the sharingan came from Obito, none of it came from kakashi. Using that logic, all of the power came from madara, and the only reason he gave the power to nagato is because the uzumaki are related to the senju. He DID NOT unlock any "extra" powers. The only thing Nagato had was he was a senju, or distantly related to the senju.

What if he needed an uzimaki, who are known for there strong life energy, to unlock the abilities of the rinnegan for him, that way when he took them back he could use them. He doesnt have to worry about them taking up too much chakra or stamina because as an edo tensei he has an unlimited ammount. It is also why Obito doesnt use it because since he is not under the edo tensei him using the rinnegan would do to him what MS does to kakashi but most likely even more so because the rinnegans abilities are stronger.

Which is wrong, because Madara had the rinnengan when he used the Edo tensi, and he said he "unlocked the rinnengan" after implanting shodaime's cells. It's folly to assume he had no rinnengan powers if he could control the gedo mazo, which was stated only someone with the rinnengan could do. You also can't say that because Obito doesn't use the rinnengan that proves your point. Maybe he just doesn't WANT to use the rinnengan. Again you have no proof other than your own guesswork that the rinnengan uses more chakra for obito than for pein.

Also keep in mind that the 9 tails host has always been uzimaki's, also keep in mind that Naruto's bijuu mode looks alot like the SO6P, perhaps the uzimaki are decendants of him if not hashirama.

And that means what, exactly? The nine-tails was Madara's personal summon, once. The "cape" is from the fourth hokage, which doesn't mean that he is some how the Sage of Six Paths. The sage had two sons. This has already been stated. You can't refute this. One created the uchiha, and the other created the senju. The uzumaki are an offshoot of the Senju. That is final. Everything else is your own opinion and it doesn't hold up to my facts.

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[Stark]

But Madara...

Madara used Preta Path, and don't even play it off saying it was only one power he displayed..

 

[a thousand years of death]

obito has other abilities that he would rather use.

if i was in his position i would rather have attacks slip through me and go for a counter rather than absorb them and leave myself vulnerable for a time.
to be fair that space time jutsu is pretty imba

 

[KingKyuubi775]

I feel like Madara is just being a **** and playin with all of them

 

[ozieboj17]

they surely can use the pains techniques at least madara because in manga he can absorb ninjutsu (one of pains jutsu) and with perfect susano he dont need other techniques...............and obito just hiding it im prety sure he gonna show us something from pains techniques and something new (new uchiha jutcu)

 

[Twin Steps]

Tis true

 

[ThomasJeffersonwasasadist]

you are incorrect. kakashi and guy speculated that he wasn't using them he wasn't using them because they'd already developed strategies to counter them.madara has used some of the powers but not all of them because he was toying with the kage and kishi doesn't want the same powers being used over and over again. keeping it fresh ya know. also obito probably hasn't felt pressured into using them yet.

 

[Animaster21]

Easy; all the techniques of the Six Paths of Pain are still techniques; they have to be used often to get experience with them, it's like Sasuke not having a very good grasp on Tsukuyomi because he used it less than Itachi did, even though it was an MS power. Just because you have the requirements to use the technique doesn't mean you can use it well without practice.
Nagato grew up with Rinnegan and even he hadn't mastered it despite using it constantly. I doubt Tobi (who transplanted it into his eye just before the war) or Madara (who only awakened it shortly before his death, after he was already in isolation and attached to the Mazo) would have had much chance to use the techniques of the different paths, that's why they aren't using them. They can use them, they just haven't learnt how yet. They're not experienced in the techniques' usage.

 

[ItachiUchiha2]

madara can more than likely use the abilities he just didnt need to use them against the kage (obvious reasons) when he fights naruto i believe we will see him unleash these powers.

 

[Gouryuuka]

I quite agree with the OT. I personally think that the powers of Nagato's Rinnegan come from his Uzumaki lineage, or has something to do with it. Madara and Obito possess Senju DNA, which is a distant relative to the Uzumakis as stated in the Naruto History. This means that they definitely have access to the abilities of Rinnegan, but either A) Madara chooses not to use it through pride, B) They do not have the chakra to do so or C) It is in fact an Uzumaki exclusive ability.


Any of the above reasons are valid. I personally think that Obito did not have access to all of Rinnegan's powers because he had only one eye and didnt not fully possess Senju DNA. The Zetsu implementation in his body is merely a copy of Hashirama's DNA and not actually the real source. Now Madara was most likely able to use Preta path due to the fact that he had both Rinnegan and actually has Hashirama cultivated into his body. This gives him direct access to the chakra that can use most of the strength behind Rinnegan.

There are theories that the SO6P hailed from the Uzumaki Clan. It was stated that the Senju and Uzumaki were distant relatives. Therefore it is a possibility that the Rikkudo was actually from this clan which tied the relation of his children directly to his native clan. So in a way, the Uzumaki were the source of this doujutsu's power and allowed the sage to awaken his strength that gave order to the ninja world. It is a good possibility that their powerful life force was a factor in the sage awakening his power. Thus, this gives Nagato the inherit ability to use all 6 Paths of Rinnegan.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

regardless obito has failed as a rinnegan user