The Rasengan and It's origins

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Hello all =)
I've just realised that the creation of the rasengan isn't a clarified issue. In the manga, it states that Namikaze Minato created the rasengan, later on it adds that he created it whilst observing one of the bijuu's tailed beast bomb attack. I have 3 issues with this.

1) There were no wild Bijuu, at the time before his death, we can safely assume that Yagura, the former mizukage was still alive but even if the Three Tail's was already in the wild, it has never been shown to be capable of using the Tailed Beast Bomb.

2) I doubt that Minato would observe Kushina using the tailed beast bomb since that seems to imply that Kushina had some form of control over the Kyuubi, and if Kushina had lost control then Minato would prioritise saving his lover over contemplating a new unfeasible (as it appeared) technique.

3) If Minato was observing the tailed beast bomb, I highly doubt he would be able to work out the mechanics to the attack just by looking at it. He would have to somehow assume the the Bijuu was using yin and yang chakra and assume that this chakra is proportionated by 1:8.

All of these points make it seem like Minato was either a real genius who was able to deduce the most minuscule features of a technique, de-construct it and then rebuild it with only one element (Instead of using 2 types of chakra, he uses only one, his own) whilst keeping it stable. He did plan on infusing his own elemental nature into it which seems to be the perfect counter-argument but isn't that sort of like watching how a drink like Pepsi is made, and then replacing the water with bleach and hoping that it's more or less the same thing?

Any insight into this would be fantastic.

Yiin
 

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yes i am puzzled by where he saw a tbb as well, but he would def be able to replicate it, if u remember, jus by seeing young kakashi's chidori for the first time he tells it wil leave him vulnerable, his observation and intelligence would easily surpass itachi's i think
 

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Rasengan itself does not require a ratio of good and bad chakra (or however Bee describes it). I think he saw it, possibly from Kushina losing control (however that is pure speculation on my part), and then being a genius he devised a way to make a similar tech for himself.


As far as the Three Tails, while we haven't seen it use the TBB I think Bee (or the 8t's) states that every Tailed beast can use the attack.
 

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But if Kushina went out of control, he wouldn't actually have any time to attempt to create a new technique? Im sure his priority would be saving his Girl Friend?

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Rasengan itself does not require a ratio of good and bad chakra (or however Bee describes it). I think he saw it, possibly from Kushina losing control (however that is pure speculation on my part), and then being a genius he devised a way to make a similar tech for himself.


As far as the Three Tails, while we haven't seen it use the TBB I think Bee (or the 8t's) states that every Tailed beast can use the attack.
all u said is true. it is stated in manga tht he observed. thts all he needs 2 learn the mechanics of it he is a genius.he took 3 years 2 master it. all tailed beasts can use TAILED BEAST BOMB.

also u dnt even kno if the others were sealed or free. his observation and 3 years developing clealy supports tht he foughtt a taailed beast b4.
 

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But if Kushina went out of control, he wouldn't actually have any time to attempt to create a new technique? Im sure his priority would be saving his Girl Friend?

Yiin
he did not learn in an instant. he observed and analyzed and took 3years 2 develop 4 human use. obviously he fought a tailed beast b4 kushina.
 

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But if Kushina went out of control, he wouldn't actually have any time to attempt to create a new technique? Im sure his priority would be saving his Girl Friend?

Yiin
yes im sure he would protect her but he is also able to read his battle and try to figure out what the opponent is going to do so later after minato rescued her he would have probably remembered the attack and replicated it afterwards. and he probably would have fought a tailed beast before remember he already fought Bee and the raikage before maybe he learned it from them
 

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Everyone has it covered pretty much but I'm almost positive that in the Manga it states that Minato was a genius who could take apart a technique and tell you all the components from just seeing it once.....Actually now that I think about it I believe they said this in one of the movies, the third one? However it's been stated that was the caliber of his genius....It only took seeing it one time to know everything about it
 

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well he created it and those facts are true as stated in the manga regardless of your issues with it XD

and as long as there is no more info from the manga we cant know
 

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Everyone has it covered pretty much but I'm almost positive that in the Manga it states that Minato was a genius who could take apart a technique and tell you all the components from just seeing it once.....Actually now that I think about it I believe they said this in one of the movies, the third one? However it's been stated that was the caliber of his genius....It only took seeing it one time to know everything about it
basically like having a sharingan for a brain.. lol.. minato was sooooo effing bad ass... lol
 
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