The problem with the Naruto/Kurama argument

[UltraPain]

Nope I just trying to show that Ms, EMS or rinnegan's user doesn't work hard to get their power. It's not just Sasuke. So there's no point saying that he have to work for it. He just get Susano and he used it, spamed it just like Obito spam Kamui.

Which is directly agreeing with my thread and all of my previoud posts to you, but for some reason you don't understand that. Again, I'm not sure you know what the content of this thread is.

@bold That is the biggest problem with YOUR argument. The fact that you correspond Kurama to Susanoo just because of similarity in power just shows how stupid you are. You face problems with Naruto/Kurama argument because you're at fault by not understanding such a simple logical difference that Kurama = Naruto's partner, and Susanoo = Sasuke's ability.

It doesn't matter if Kurama and Susanoo are similar in power and characteristics, the fact remains that Susanoo is Sasuke's OWN ability, you can't compare it to Naruto's Kurama ENDOWED powers. Nobody is talking about similarity in powers, they're talking about who that power belongs to. Susanoo belongs to Sasuke, Kurama belongs to Kurama.

And don't cry about Sasuke being born an Uchiha. Of course he's born an Uchiha, and that's because Sasuke was supposed to have those abilities by default based on his bloodline which Naruto gained after cooperation with Kurama. That was because Sasuke should already have those abilities on his own which Naruto gained after cooperation with Kurama, and that's exactly why Sasuke was born an Uchiha. It's because Uchiha's innate powers (Susanoo) are comparable to other shinobis bijuu endowed powers.

And no, nothing would make Naruto and Sasuke guilty of the same thing...

I read your post but honestly every time you interact with anyone on here you're a complete namecalling ass and I'm not going to waste my time entertaining you. I already took the time in all my previous posts to explain these details but you obviously didn't take the time to read them so you can go ahead and do that now.

 

[End of Days]

Sasuke is the manga version of a spoiled rich brat whose only special thing about himself is being born to a rich and special family.

As a ninja he has everything cut out for him, a magic eye-ball which does everything for him. Give him pre-programmed techniques and all he has to do is cry.

Then he can rip out eyes from someone else's corpse and get more! While others, everyone else, have to actually sweat and train for techniques.

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Huh but I guess people in here hold being born lucky in higher regards than to one who actually tries.

For me I will always respect the man one who worked and earned his place.

Nobody seemed to have a problem when Kyuubi was a huge disadvantage to him, when he almost took over him killing him or when Kyuubi interfered with his sage mode training or made his chakra control difficult. Only when he turn his disadvantage into strength, real funny how it goes.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I read your reply but honestly every time I interact with you on here you're a complete namecalling ass and I'm not going to waste my time entertaining you. I already took the time in all my previous posts to explain these details but you obviously didn't take the time to read them so you can go ahead and do that now.

You don't have the courage and material to argue with me, that's all.

 

[Haloguy2710]

Exactly. Sauce fans are always rustled

 

[UltraPain]

You don't have the courage and material to argue with me, that's all.

I knew you'd say something like that. Sure, whatever makes you happy, man.

Exactly. Sauce fans are always rustled

Lol your sig is hilarious! Does he actually spin around like that in the movie?

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

Sasuke just had to get mad and everyone gets mad in Narutots at some stage.

"Narutits gets advice" he gets the obvious stated to him and Sasuke's powers don't need instructions, it's all natural and automatic, like amaterasu and its manipulation.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I knew you'd say something like that. Sure, whatever makes you happy, man.

It does not make me happy. I was eagerly looking forward for your topic related reply which I didn't get, disappointingly enough. And that's because you know that you're at fault and can't argue with me, but still you should have relevantly replied so I could look further into it. This evasive approach is simply not nice.

 

[UltraPain]

It does not make me happy. I was eagerly looking forward for your topic related reply which I didn't get, disappointingly enough. And that's because you know that you're at fault and can't argue with me, but still you should have relevantly replied so I could look further into it. This evasive approach is simply not nice.

I already explained that my rebuttals to your topics are in my previous posts. Stop spending so much time trying to offend me and get reading.

Also don't try to explain what is "not nice." It means nothing coming from you.

 

[TNC Xlll]

Which is directly agreeing with my thread and all of my previoud posts to you, but for some reason you don't understand that. Again, I'm not sure you know what the content of this thread is.

So are you trying to say that Obito, Itachi, Madara & Nagato are useless w/o their dojutsu power?(sure they depend on their dojutsu) After all, they didn't work for it.
I hope it's not. Hashirama get mokuton and he spamed it, Kishi gave him that ability and we accept it. We doesn't have to know, he worked hard for it.

 

[UltraPain]

So are you trying to say that Obito, Itachi, Madara & Nagato are useless w/o their dojutsu power? After all, they didn't work for it.
I hope it's not. Hashirama get mokuton and he spamed it, Kishi gave him that ability and we accept it. We doesn't have to know, he worked hard for it.

Nope. Not even close. Please read my original post.

 

[TNC Xlll]

Nope. Not even close. Try again.

It seems that you dont get that susano is just an ocular power Sasuke get just like Madara & Itachi have one.

 

[UltraPain]

It seems that you dont get that susano is just an ocular power Sasuke get just like Madara & Itachi have one.

Ugh I don't know why you keep bringing that up. Of course I know its an ocular jutsu.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

I already explained that my rebuttals to your topics are in my previous posts. Stop spending so much time trying to offend me and get reading.

Also don't try to explain what is "not nice." It means nothing coming from you.

I read those rebuttals and didn't find anything noteworthy to avert my argument.

And you better dump your negative assumptions about me, and focus on the argument instead on me, kid. I have no interest in you or offending you, only the argument interests me.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Fully mastered rinnegan/ems sasuke= naruto rsm+ all 9 bijuus+ all natural energy as stated by kishi. :Sparks:

OT: There is no need to stoop to the level of a sasuke fanboy

Corrected for you.

He says it somewhere in this interview that they're equal. Sasuke just refused to think that Naruto was his equal. If you paid attention, you woild've noticed it:

3T Sharingan + CM = KM

MS > Sage Mode

MS = KCM

EMS = BM

EMS w/PS = BSM

6T Rinnegan + 6 Paths Yin Chakra = RSM + 6 Paths Yang Chakra

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Corrected for you.

 

[UltraPain]

I read those rebuttals and didn't find anything noteworthy to avert my argument.

And you better dump your negative assumptions about me, and focus on the argument instead on me, kid. I have no interest in you or offending you, only the argument interests me.

All of your arguments were already discussed between someone else and I earlier in this thread, you should have seen that.

Again, I'm not going to entertain you over reasons I previously stated. Learn to move on and get over it, or continue to freak out. Your choice.

 

[TNC Xlll]

Ugh I don't know why you keep bringing that up. Of course I know its an ocular jutsu.

Since when did they have to work hard to get an ocular power? Did you really read my previous posts?
Sasuke had to get use to the susano(ribcage, V1, V2,V3) after finishing these stages, he only need more chakra to get the final stage (PS) and he get some from the Sage. And only the PS can compare to a bijuu.

 

[UltraPain]

Since when did they have to work hard to get an ocular power? Did you really read my previous posts?
Sasuke had to get use to the susano(ribcage, V1, V2,V3) after finishing these stages, he only need more chakra to get the final stage (PS) and he get some from the Sage. And only the PS can compare to a bijuu.

Again, I already said this too, but the way you are viewing the content isn't helping my message get across.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

All of your arguments were already discussed between someone else and I earlier in this thread, you should have seen that.

Again, I'm not going to entertain you over reasons I previously stated. Learn to move on and get over it, or continue to freak out. Your choice.

Those arguments did not answer anything. In fact they raised even more points I could object to you.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

OP is right. Naruto had to risk his life fighting Kurama in order to tame him. This was no easy feat considering that Naruto needed assistance from Killer B, Yamato, and Kushina to defeat the Ninetails.

That's alright, but OP's comparison of Susanoo to Kurama is ridiculous.

 

[super michael]

I will say this hope this post helps out.

I will start what each one can do with their Natural genetics nothing else.

Hyuuga = Byakugan
Uzumaki = high vitality and strong body
Senju = strong body and high chakra (not sure about the chakra part)
Uchiha = strong chakra, potential to gain Sharingan, MS and EMS by implanting eyes.
Haku Clan = Ice element
Hashirama = Mokuton

Things that are not possible to gain without body modification

Humans = getting Bijuu to be a Jinchuuriki
Humans = getting curse mark from orochimaru

Naruto already has a KKG which is high vitality and strong chakra, while Sasuke has strong chakra and dojutsu.