The problem with the Naruto/Kurama argument

[The Demon Hawk]

I don't know why this argument matters so much. I guess some people are looking for some excuse to defend their favorite characters inability to beat Naruto. Regardless, it is a pointless statement to make; that Naruto doesn't deserve Kurama's power or that it's unfair.

In the recent era of asspulls and handouts that befell the series towards the end, I think Naruto is one of the reasonable ones since he did not actually grow exponentially strong for no reason. The power belongs to Kurama and is willingly freely given to Naruto. To say that Naruto did not, to a great degree, earn this privilege is an outright lie.

Kurama was sealed into Naruto at the cost his parents' lives. Everyone seems to have quickly forgotten how Kurama used to deliberately give Naruto chakra to protect his life and to weaken the seal to its breaking point. Or how Kurama's presence impeded Naruto from passing the academy final exams multiple times and from performing certain techniques efficiently or even at all. How about the hatred and animosity that characterised his childhood because of the fox? And the number of years it took to gain the fox's trust. And the fact that housing the fox was what attracted Akatsuki. Kurama's presence did not come without its disadvantages and Naruto certainly paid his dues for his power.

Other characters merely stole DNA samples or used their brothers eyes. If anything is unfair, its that.

@bold Nobody said that Naruto doesn't deserve Kurama's power or that it's unfair. Most Sasuke fans and sensible neutral people try to counter argue biased and illogical Naruto fans with this fact, who try to prove Naruto doesn't rely on others to fight Sasuke. They just try to prove Naruto needs to rely on Kurama i.e. cooperate with someone else to fight Sasuke, that's all. They try to prove to Naruto fans Naruto's theme of cooperation which Naruto fans completely deny by comparing Kurama to Itachi's eyes or Susanoo, that Naruto needs others abilities to fight Sasuke's abilities.

 

[TNC Xlll]

Again, I already said this too, but the way you are viewing the content isn't helping my message get across.

What message are you trying convey? That a genius & bless Uchiha like Sasuke doesn't have to word hard to get ocular power. (Well, this is how it works for the Uchiha, accept it)
Did you really expect that he have train like he did for chidori to get a dojutsu power?
As for susano I already explained, you can't compare it to Kurama, only PS is on par with him. He was already close to get it anyway, he only needed more chakra

 

[kaithefly]

sasuke is still a kage level shinobi without susanoo

same goes for naruto, he's still a kage level shinobi without kurama

 

[Haloguy2710]

Lol your sig is hilarious! Does he actually spin around like that in the movie?

He spins once but it's been edited to look like an infinte spin xD

 

[xxSAGExx]

No. Kurama gives Naruto advice on how to fight Sasuke. Sasuke doesn't get advice from Susano'o.

Kurama is also the reason Naruto lost his parents, was hated by the majority of his village, had bad chakra control, risk losing control of his body to Kurama, got chased after by a group of S rank criminal, cost him his life if he loses Kurama, the constant regenerating after the fox cloak damaged Naruto shorten his life, he had to train to learn to control this power, and he had to earn Kurama's respect. Kurama is a power that came with one of the most risks for a power up, all of Sasuke's powerups individually doesn't even compare to this, most of them are actually quite easily done for Sasuke.

If you combine multiple powerups that Sasuke got then it would be a bit more like Kurama such as Sasuke awakening his Sharingan after Itachi killed his parents, Sasuke risked death when given the CM which in time makes him a puppet of Orochimaru so they say, sealing of Orochimaru in his body granted him a healing ability amongst other skills plus Orochimaru did give advice to Sasuke against Itachi while sealed in him, death of Itachi gave Saauke MS and EMS, and Hagoromo giving Sasuke the Rinnegan. All of these powerups together are roughly Naruto with Kurama.

Naruto has the Sage's body passed down by Ashura and Sasuke has the Sage's eyes passed down by Indra; both have the ability to control/contain Bijuus. Sage's eyes can control Bijuus while the Sage's body can contain Bijuus. If you take away the Uchiha and Uzumaki abilities then Naruto still has the chance of having a large chakra reserve like Minato since SM training requires a large chakra reserve so Naruto would still be the stronger of the two. Can go further and say take away their clan abilities plus chakra since all of it came from the Juubi/God Tree so no point in arguing either ability.

Naruto got Kurama which is a power with the most risks and many bad effects, SM which Naruto trained to learn with his own power and skills, got some chakra from the other 8 Bijuus, and got Hagoromo's Yang Chakra which gave him RSM abilities. Sasuke got CM, a pill that boost his base power and gave him CM lvl 2, drugs and/or forbidden jutsus to increase his growth rate in the 3 year timeskip, got Orochimaru white snake abilities, got MS and EMS from Itachi, got Hashirama cells which boost stamina and power of jutsus, got Hagoromo's Yin chakra that gave him the Rinnegan. Naruto got full Kurama and Hashirama cells after the VoTE fight.

 

[super michael]

There no denying Naruto did earn Kurama power, Naruto had to overcome his hatred, even though it isn't a conscious one. Naruto had to battle Kurama and his own emotion.

As for Curse Mark, that requires a lot of will to survive, if the user doesn't have enough will strength then there is a good chance to die.

Jinchuuriki = Curse Mark nothing else