The potential Sarada would have if she was Karin's daughter would be endless!

[HowDidIGetPrem]

What you're saying now doesn't even make sense tbh.

Of course it doesn't. It was founded on ridiculous reasoning.

 

[To Whatever]

Of course it doesn't. It was founded on ridiculous reasoning.

lmao.

Got em.

 

[take it easy]

Great thread. Only salty SS fans will disagree.

 

[Avani]

She'd be way better than a Sakura v2.0. Thoughts?

Better for exactly what? For taking a bite? Sarada is a side character and would still be a side character. Karin had little to do in the series despite her chakra chains.

You have been complaining over pairing since 2014 - and return in 2018 only for the same old salt over the whole issue.

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

Better for exactly what? For taking a bite? Sarada is a side character and would still be a side character. Karin had little to do in the series despite her chakra chains.

I already explained why, Read before that. Her being a side character or main character is irrelevant to this thread.

You have been complaining over pairing since 2014 - and return in 2018 only for the same old salt over the whole issue.

Thanks for the history lesson. This is not about pairings just about potential of a character through this pairing. I see no salt in here.

 

[Avani]

I already explained why, Read before that. Her being a side character or main character is irrelevant to this thread.

Mourning over not getting specific set of genes in a side character whom you definitely not want to surpass the hero is the most silly thing to do. Four years Shaz and you are still at it.

If Sarada was Uzumaki/senu+ Uchiha of more relevance - Hyugas will be side tracked once again. They hardly have anything - Boruto's power are not called bayakugan yet. Think about it.

Thanks for the history lesson. This is not about pairings just about potential of a character through this pairing. I see no salt in here.

You are welcome! But it's not just this thread. Almost your every post since you returned is been the same old salt.

 

[Uverdore9]

Unlike some backwards individuals with no real comprehension of the manga think, Byakugou is not a teachable technique. It is classified "S-Rank Forbidden Secret Sealing Technique". Get that through.

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"Tsunade passed down..." passing down =/= teachable. It is like a legacy from teacher to student. Secret techniques need special chakras stated by Shikamaru. Forbidden techniques cannot be mastered by anyone who do not meet a certain requirement(Like Kakuzu Jiongu and Deidara's Hand Mouths) and that requirement should be a KKG or a body integrated equipment like two above forbidden techniques. Uzumaki do not have chains, Orochimaru said "Kushina's powers" when he saw Karin using it meaning normal uzumakis do not have the chain powers. Kushina had a special chakra unlike other uzumakis and karin has this too meaning only the two of them can use this technique. Not even Nagato can use this technique. Nagato do not possess that special chakra. Haruno genes are far better than the peasant Uzumaki genes, just because ignorance points towards Uzumakis, do not make it fact. Haruno's have perfect chakra controls and mastery over all forms of sublteties regarding chakra. Fodderhyuga and foddermakis do not come near these feats. Only a haruno descendant can earn the right to wield Tsunade's greatest forbidden technique which is the same as Hashirama's healing stated by Madara. Not every unworthy fodders can be a candidate for it, which is why Sakura was praised by Hashirama and Shizune unlike any fodderhyugas or foddermakis lol. Deal with it. Sarada can get Byakugou and excellent chakra control and add it with Indra's excellent chakra quality which is the strongest of types and talent in Ninjutsu and Genjutsu and speed, and Haruno's resistance to genjutsu and precise eyes which have huge presence of mind(Sasori compared Sakura's eye to a hawk), Sarada will be billion times a beast than when she hypothetically can hope to achieve by being Karin's daughter. Chains are trash against Sakura who broke the strongest being's horn which even Zetsu was surprised she could be capable of that. Harunos also give foot speed superiority which let fodder clone get blitzed by Juubi hands but Sakura outrunning it for hours and still never getting caught lol. Fodder clones children would not ever reach Sakura's level and Sarada's level. Deal with it. Throw Fanfics BS onto the air.

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

Mourning over not getting specific set of genes in a side character whom you definitely not want to surpass the hero is the most silly thing to do. Four years Shaz and you are still at it.

I don't think Sarada would surpass Boruto even if she had these genes. She would be more on his level instead of a character whose more on the side. Its 3 years since I missed a whole years. I am not even here talking about pairings. So not sure what you are getting at.

If Sarada was Uzumaki/senu+ Uchiha of more relevance - Hyugas will be side tracked once again. They hardly have anything - Boruto's power are not called bayakugan yet. Think about it.

If they can make Uzumaki a clan and give it as same importance as the Senju they can do the same to the Hyuuga. Making them develop a clan they neglected through out the series. Think about it.

You are welcome! But it's not just this thread. Almost your every post since you returned is been the same old salt.

Lmao I was not talking about pairings since I returned. Ira do some better research.

 

[Avani]

Unlike some backwards individuals with no real comprehension of the manga, Byakugou is not a teachable technique. It is classified "S-Rank Forbidden Secret Sealing Technique". Get that through.

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"Tsunade passed down..." passing down =/= teachable

Ehh... Say what? Shizune couldn't do it so it's hard to master but it's pretty much taught. It's not a a parcel to pass.

 

[Made in Heaven]

False. Why Boruto is strong doesn't have anything to do with his Hyuga genes. It has to do with his "prodigious" approach to ninjutsu.

Which Kodachi credits to his Hyuga lineage

In fact, every single time Boruto tried to use his Hyuga side, he got fodderized:

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Bolt's losses don't devalue his lineage, just as Sasuke losing to Lee doesn't devalue his lineage. That's even ignoring the fact that Hanabi confirmed he slacks off on his Gentle Fist style, ignoring that Bolt's specialty isn't even taijutsu, and ignoring he doesn't have the Byakugan that is used in tandem with Gentle Fist style.

Your logic with those two situations is already beyond flawed, so I will leave it at that.

Boruto doesn't have Otsutsuki blood on him. Only Uzumaki and Hyuga.

This is what I meant when I said you're splitting hairs. I mean, obviously on a technical basis, he doesn't. That much is obvious and shoudn't even be discussed. I guess "Alien blood" would be more appropriate. The Hyuga are the only ones with actual biological similarities with the aliens in the Byakugan among all of their descendants, and the Jougan has already been confirmed to be tied to the Ootsutsuki clan, and of course, that brings in Hinata who is called the Byakugan Princess by said clan. Anyone can see a clear connection that is not present with other descended clans like the Senju or Uchiha.

Naruto is not a Senju.

Like I said, you're splitting hairs just for argument's sake. The connection is close enough that BZ refers to Nagato as a Senju descendant rather than an Uzumaki descendant despite him carrying neither name.

And even if he was... you know damn well he's not powerful because he's a Uzumaki. He's powerful because he's a reincarnate.

Reincarnation has nothing to do with strength. And Naruto's power comes from his Uzumaki stamina which allow him feats like large scale attacks, sage mode and by extension six paths sage mode, controlling Kurama, and clones.

 

[Avani]

I don't think Sarada would surpass Boruto even if she had these genes. She would be more on his level instead of a character whose more on the side. Its 3 years since I missed a whole years. I am not even here talking about pairings. So not sure what you are getting at.

Yes you are. Otherwise you seem to imply Karin is nothing for you but a womb to pass of Uzumaki genes- to be bitten to serve your hero in need and that's even worse.

It's been 4 years since the manga ended. Your dramatic exit and absence from Nb while you were searching for other sites or chat groups means little if you still have only the same old topic and complaints to rehash.

If they can make Uzumaki a clan and give it as same importance as the Senju they can do the same to the Hyuuga. Making them develop a clan they neglected through out the series. Think about it.

Why would they bother fleshing out unnecessary powers and characters? Why it must be the tales of the exceptional genes only? Some normal characters should be good enough to be around. Besides too over powered characters like Kaguya don't make interesting characters. Nor people can relate with them on any level. Having one kind of special power should work for Sarada or she would be a broken/nerfed character throughout.

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

Yes you are. Otherwise you seem to imply Karin is nothing for you but a womb to pass of Uzumaki genes- to be bitten to serve your hero in need and that's even worse.

Karin is a fictional character. We would never have that womb scene. What ever happens in between is never created.

It's been 4 years since the manga ended. Your dramatic exit and absence from Nb while you were searching for other sites or chat groups means little if you still have only the same old topic and complaints to rehash.

As if we got some better topics going on here as this is some sidetrack. Before this thread Lee became some kinda meme. If I can cause a discuss with some rehash shit than I am more than happy.

Why would they bother fleshing out unnecessary powers and characters?

Because they need to create a compelling story. Why make a story if your not gonna bother doing something like that?

 

[Avani]

Karin is a fictional character. We would never have that womb scene. What ever happens in between is never created.

So just because she is a fictional character and scene itself might not be drawn, it makes using her as a womb, ok? Really?

For your kind information all these characters and verse are fictional we still talk about how the characters are being used in the story and so how you wished her to be used is going to be pointed at too.

As if we got some better topics going on here as this is some sidetrack. Before this thread Lee became some kinda meme. If I can cause a discuss with some rehash shit than I am more than happy.

How would be get other threads if people are so hung up on same old issue for four years?

Because they need to create a compelling story. Why make a story if your not gonna bother doing something like that?

You don't get compelling stories by piling up as many power ups as you can. If it was so- people would be super happy with war arc. But many complain that threat level reached 'moon' and ninja skills become secondary.

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

So just because she is a fictional character and scene itself might not be drawn, it makes using her as a womb, ok? Really?

For your kind information all these characters and verse are fictional we still talk about how the characters are being used in the story.

She is a fictional character so she can be objectified because she is an object not real.

Right so what is wrong with using a character as a mother? Why is it okay for Sakura to be used this way and not Karin?

How would be get other threads if people are so hung up on same old issue for four years?

I never made this thread before so not sure what you are talking about. Over exaggeration at its finest.

You don't get compelling stories by piling up as many power ups as you can if it was so- people would be super happy with war arc. But many complain that threat level reached 'moon' and ninja skills become secondary.

If done right without being forced. The Hyuuga clan can still be developed. In fact it would be good if that happens since most of the story was developing Uchiha and Senju.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

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"Tsunade passed down..." passing down =/= teachable. It is like a legacy from teacher to student. Secret techniques need special chakras stated by Shikamaru. Forbidden techniques cannot be mastered by anyone who do not meet a certain requirement(Like Kakuzu Jiongu and Deidara's Hand Mouths) and that requirement should be a KKG or a body integrated equipment like two above forbidden techniques. Uzumaki do not have chains, Orochimaru said "Kushina's powers" when he saw Karin using it meaning normal uzumakis do not have the chain powers. Kushina had a special chakra unlike other uzumakis and karin has this too meaning only the two of them can use this technique. Not even Nagato can use this technique. Nagato do not possess that special chakra. Haruno genes are far better than the peasant Uzumaki genes, just because ignorance points towards Uzumakis, do not make it fact. Haruno's have perfect chakra controls and mastery over all forms of sublteties regarding chakra. Fodderhyuga and foddermakis do not come near these feats. Only a haruno descendant can earn the right to wield Tsunade's greatest forbidden technique which is the same as Hashirama's healing stated by Madara. Not every unworthy fodders can be a candidate for it, which is why Sakura was praised by Hashirama and Shizune unlike any fodderhyugas or foddermakis lol. Deal with it. Sarada can get Byakugou and excellent chakra control and add it with Indra's excellent chakra quality which is the strongest of types and talent in Ninjutsu and Genjutsu and speed, and Haruno's resistance to genjutsu and precise eyes which have huge presence of mind(Sasori compared Sakura's eye to a hawk), Sarada will be billion times a beast than when she hypothetically can hope to achieve by being Karin's daughter. Chains are trash against Sakura who broke the strongest being's horn which even Zetsu was surprised she could be capable of that. Harunos also give foot speed superiority which let fodder clone get blitzed by Juubi hands but Sakura outrunning it for hours and still never getting caught lol. Fodder clones children would not ever reach Sakura's level and Sarada's level. Deal with it. Throw Fanfics BS onto the air.

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[Avani]

She is a fictional character so she can be objectified because she is an object not real.

Wow - you are not even denying it but justifying.

Right so what is wrong with using a character as a mother? Why is it okay for Sakura to be used this way and not Karin?

How is Sakura being objectified for her womb or genes being a normal girl? She is there in regular course of the plot. Sasuke marrying her simply means him making a connection and home back in Konoha and not being hungry for power or obsessing over genes or power ups like Madara/Oro or some fans here.

I never made this thread before so not sure what you are talking about. Over exaggeration at its finest.

Plenty of the posts on similar topic Shaz. Funny that you try to deny this but not objectifying Karin.

If done right without being forced. The Hyuuga clan can still be developed. In fact it would be good if that happens since most of the story was developing Uchiha and Senju.

I don't have a problem but if your side character is an Uzumaki with Sharingan either she would be nerfed to the extent to get the same complaints as for Sakura (despite her being Karin's daughter in your alt alternative universe) or she would take more space leaving little for Hyugas between two part Uzumaki main characters.

It's absurd that you want her to have Karin's power along with sharingon only to nerf her or to be chakra snack. How is that going to improve the current story even remotely?

 

[Vulpini]

Which Kodachi credits to his Hyuga lineage

I don't recall Kodachi ever crediting his "prodigious" approach to Ninjutsu to his Hyuga lineage. :wut:

Bolt's losses don't devalue his lineage, just as Sasuke losing to Lee doesn't devalue his lineage.

Sasuke's fight against Lee can't compare with Boruto's fight against Shikadai and his fight against Sarada.

Boruto was doing good against Shikadai, but the moment he decided to go CQC against him, using his Gentle Fist, he lost the fight.

Boruto vs. Sarada fight is different because Boruto said he wouldn't hold back, and Sasuke didn't go 100% against Lee. If he wanted to finish Lee off, he could've used Genjutsu or any other ninjutsu.

Your logic with those two situations is already beyond flawed, so I will leave it at that.

I guess you're the one with the flawled logic here, putting Hyuga on the same tier as Uchiha and Senju development-wise.

Hyugas were treated like garbage the entire series. My logic has nothing to do if you can't accept this simple fact.

This is what I meant when I said you're splitting hairs. I mean, obviously on a technical basis, he doesn't. That much is obvious and shoudn't even be discussed. I guess "Alien blood" would be more appropriate. The Hyuga are the only ones with actual biological similarities with the aliens in the Byakugan among all of their descendants, and the Jougan has already been confirmed to be tied to the Ootsutsuki clan, and of course, that brings in Hinata who is called the Byakugan Princess by said clan. Anyone can see a clear connection that is not present with other descended clans like the Senju or Uchiha.

This is completely different from what you said up there.

You said: "Boruto's source of power is his Hyuga lineage". And we all know that isn't true.

Literally, all the powers Boruto have showed so far have nothing to do with his Hyuga lineage. Even his doujutsu still featless at the moment.

Reincarnation has nothing to do with strength.

Another sig worthy quote from you.

And Naruto's power comes from his Uzumaki stamina which allow him feats like large scale attacks, sage mode and by extension six paths sage mode, controlling Kurama, and clones.

Where did you get that from? Got any scan to back that up? :wut:

> Large Scale attacks
Literally any person can have large scale attacks

> Sage Mode
Another fanfic. Kabuto, Mitsuki, Jiraya, Minato aren't Uzumakis. I won't even mention Hashirama.
Minato isn't a Uzumaki and is Naruto's father and he could use Sage Mode. I'm pretty sure Naruto could've done the same even if he didn't have Uzumaki genes. His father could, after all.

> Controlling Kurama
When it was ever stated that Naruto can control Kurama just because he's an Uzumaki? :wut:

Guess all Jinchurikis are Uzumaki then, because they can control their Tailed Beasts as well.

> Clones
Nah. That's just the forbidden version of Shadow Clones. If I'm not Mistaken, Konohamaru can use it as well in one of the movies:

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/\ and he isn't a Uzumaki.

In short, Hyuga genes have done nothing to Boruto so far. And the only times he tried to use his Hyuga side, he got handled.

 

[Darth Natsu Shazneel]

wow - you are not even denying it.

Nope no need. She's an object. Her toys are sold, has her own merchandise.

How is sakura being objectified for her womb? She is there in regular course of the plot. Sasuke marrying her simply means him making a connection and home back in konoha and not being hungry for power or obsessing over genes or power ups like madara.

Let me make it clear. Sakura and every other character in this series is an object. They are made to sell toys and merchandise. Nothing wrong with that. Now moving on.

Karin is no different in that sense. Her marrying Sasuke would be no different than Sasuke marrying Sakura. Just because she has better genes does not mean she is only used as some power obsession. I see more potential in this pairing than the one with Sakura. And what is wrong with that? Its my opinion I already explained why I made this my opinion.

Plenty of the posts on similar topic shaz. Funny that you try to deny this but not objectifying karin.

I never denied anything. You are just making a random assumption of me with zero evidence. Before this thread I did not even communicate with you. So stop pointing fingers at me for my opinions. Its very clear what I like and dislike its not some rocket science.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Someone call Z so we can punish this mod. The fact that Sarada has shown Sakura's main abilities(CeS and chakra control) should already be proof enough that Sarada would also display some of Karin's abilities whether she's a side character or not. Not that it all has to appear at 1 moment.

 

[To Whatever]

In short, Hyuga genes have done nothing to Boruto

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lmao.