The most intelligent character in the Narutoverse.

[toviasrepier]

Shikamaru but he is lazy & like common life.

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[kingkwong]

Okay, look, I'll go easy on you, but I couldn't get past this statement. How can I respect your opinions if what you say is factually incorrect? Games like Chess and Shogi developed from, I believe, an Indian game (and I mean Indians from India).

If you've done any study of either, then it would be painfully obvious that Shogi is very different than Chess, especially in difficulty/complexity. I understand that there's a bunch of nincompoops calling Shogi "Japanese Chess"...that's like calling sake rice wine... :facepalm:

It's not my fault that western culture is blindingly stupid, highly arrogant and very uneducated. I can't do anything about it, they're very persistant in this. I may address the rest of your posts, but not until you've studied a little or can at least admit that you're in error.

"Any man worth his salt will stick up for what he believes right, but it takes a slightly better man to acknowledge instantly and without reservation that he is in error." -Andrew Jackson

Yes, this is me going easy on you, deal with it.

Hey Mr Arrogent. I think I know everything so I'll go easy and tell you stuff that can be found on wikipedia. Sorry to all the people out there who havn't studied japanese board games and the whole western culture which you have insulted. Don't think your so superior because you know how to use wikipedia.

Oxford dictionary:
Chess
Pronunciation: /tʃɛs/
noun
[mass noun]
A board game of strategic skill for two players, played on a chequered board on which each playing piece is moved according to precise rules. The object is to put the opponent’s king under a direct attack from which escape is impossible (checkmate).

Online Dictionary:
shogi
[shoh-gee]  
noun
The Japanese version of chess.
Origin:
1880–85; < Japanese shōgi < Middle Chinese, equivalent to Chinese jiāng commander + qí chess

How about you STFU because you don't even know what chess is. You know abit of basic history about chess being originated in India. It has evolved into many different versions over the years. What we call "chess" nowadays is international chess which is the western version. The Japanese version is called Shogi which by definition still chess. What your saying is that japanese chess and shogi are two completely different games which they are not. Orginally from India then to China then to Korea and finally to Japan. Are you going to say Spagetti isn't from Italy but from ancient chinese noodles?
Yes, sake is feremented rice = Rice wine

Oxford dictionary:
Wine
an alcoholic drink made from the fermented juice of specified other fruits or plants.

This is me going easy because I don't have anymore time I could waste on arrogant people like you. What you going to do next, say my spelling is incorrect so my whole statement is false?
Check.... your move.

 

[Rikodu senin madara]

Itachi's doujutsu and uchiha blessed abilities augment his intelligence, making him look smarter but the nara family fight solely with intelligence only so i givd it to the nara papa and son

 

[Joki]

Ohh....shit.

You just had to make this thread, didn't you?

I definitely don't want to go back and read the other 17 pages of bullshit in what I predict is loads of "HURRRRR SHEEKAMAROO"

As for me, Minato, Kakashi, Jiraiya, Naruto, Orochimaru, Tobi, Kakuzu, all could be some prime contenders and a few people I forgot. Although IMO Kabuto easily takes the cake for smartest character.

Lol @ suckamaru

 

[Shinobi Train]

Hey Mr Arrogent. I think I know everything so I'll go easy and tell you stuff that can be found on wikipedia. Sorry to all the people out there who havn't studied japanese board games and the whole western culture which you have insulted. Don't think your so superior because you know how to use wikipedia.

Oxford dictionary:
Chess
Pronunciation: /tʃɛs/
noun
[mass noun]
A board game of strategic skill for two players, played on a chequered board on which each playing piece is moved according to precise rules. The object is to put the opponent’s king under a direct attack from which escape is impossible (checkmate).

Online Dictionary:
shogi
[shoh-gee]  
noun
The Japanese version of chess.
Origin:
1880–85; < Japanese shōgi < Middle Chinese, equivalent to Chinese jiāng commander + qí chess

How about you STFU because you don't even know what chess is. You know abit of basic history about chess being originated in India. It has evolved into many different versions over the years. What we call "chess" nowadays is international chess which is the western version. The Japanese version is called Shogi which by definition still chess. What your saying is that japanese chess and shogi are two completely different games which they are not. Orginally from India then to China then to Korea and finally to Japan. Are you going to say Spagetti isn't from Italy but from ancient chinese noodles?
Yes, sake is feremented rice = Rice wine

Oxford dictionary:
Wine
an alcoholic drink made from the fermented juice of specified other fruits or plants.

This is me going easy because I don't have anymore time I could waste on arrogant people like you. What you going to do next, say my spelling is incorrect so my whole statement is false?
Check.... your move.

First off I want to apologize to the OP for taking this off subject, but I promise that I'll end it with this post. That is, if my opponent looks at things objectively, but no matter what it's my last one along these lines.

These types of discussions get under my skin something awful. Simply because Western culture started to dominate the world for a while doesn't mean its books are accurate or intelligent. Let's go to Japan real quick and tell them that they're playing Japanese Chess...that's like saying we're playing English Shogi. They wouldn't be arrogant enough to do that to us, so why do we do it to them?

Why can't we just f-ing call things what they are? Why can't we just call it Chess and Shogi, instead of Chess and "Japanese Chess"? It's not Chess, it's Shogi, but if people persist in this, then I will start calling Chess "English Shogi". It's only fair.

The process for making sake is more like beer than anything, it would at least be more intelligent to call it "rice beer". Sake tastes nothing like wine, wine (for the most part) is not something I would ever choose to consume, its nasty and its basically the "Emporer's new clothes" in bottle form. Sake is it's own thing, completely different, you wouldn't compare liquor to beer or wine, so why compare sake to any of those?

Again, why can't we just call things what they are? Sake is sake, beer is beer, liquor is liquor, wine is wine. I don't know why these things have to be compared to something just to explain it. The Japanese don't call wine "grape sake", so why do we call sake "rice wine". It's lack of education, arrogance and laziness.

With that, I'm through, I don't want to go further off topic, nor do I want to discuss this anymore. Let's agree to disagree and leave it at that.

 

[Everlasting Peace]

The most intelligent ever... Would probably be Orochimaru. Most now, possibly Tobi because he knows a lot of the past in comparison to anyone yet to be known, plus the present. Who is highly intelligent on their toes I would have to give it to Minato, Itachi, and Shikimaru. Sorry Intelligence has so many variables to conclude one outcome for one person. It's just like the word smart, thrown around way to casually. Obviously Itachi or Shikimaru can not be most because they still yet to know as much as Tobi, but they are definitely on the level. And this thread is really not important at all, and it just casues arguments, and any side of the argument is pointless. Because Naruto is about Peace not who is the strongest, or most intelligent. It's the ability to understand one another and get along, which is a reflection to our world itself. We do not have that ability, and may not... unless everyone opens their mind in all sense. =D

 

[Joki]

First off I want to apologize to the OP for taking this off subject, but I promise that I'll end it with this post. That is, if my opponent looks at things objectively, but no matter what it's my last one along these lines.

These types of discussions get under my skin something awful. Simply because Western culture started to dominate the world for a while doesn't mean its books are accurate or intelligent. Let's go to Japan real quick and tell them that they're playing Japanese Chess...that's like saying we're playing English Shogi. They wouldn't be arrogant enough to do that to us, so why do we do it to them?

Why can't we just f-ing call things what they are? Why can't we just call it Chess and Shogi, instead of Chess and "Japanese Chess"? It's not Chess, it's Shogi, but if people persist in this, then I will start calling Chess "English Shogi". It's only fair.

The process for making sake is more like beer than anything, it would at least be more intelligent to call it "rice beer". Sake tastes nothing like wine, wine (for the most part) is not something I would ever choose to consume, its nasty and its basically the "Emporer's new clothes" in bottle form. Sake is it's own thing, completely different, you wouldn't compare liquor to beer or wine, so why compare sake to any of those?

Again, why can't we just call things what they are? Sake is sake, beer is beer, liquor is liquor, wine is wine. I don't know why these things have to be compared to something just to explain it. The Japanese don't call wine "grape sake", so why do we call sake "rice wine". It's lack of education, arrogance and laziness.

With that, I'm through, I don't want to go further off topic, nor do I want to discuss this anymore. Let's agree to disagree and leave it at that.

You know in all fairness that's mainly semantics and calling it "Japanese Chess" or "English Shogi" won't really make a difference even if there a few differences.

 

[zombiejesus]

orochimaru was the smartest now it is kabuto in stradegy it would be shihaku shikas dad

 

[frenimshah]

a word abt the tobi thing....knw that its all said thins...but my version....
mdara planned getting 1sts cells in the fight nd he pretened to be dead for the world....n just before his death he activated Rinnegan.....this is the story told......mine is...................... madara usd Rinnegan to resurect his bro in to a zetsu body and died in the process just like what happened to naguto...he gave the plans to his bro b44 he dies..... tobi gives the Rinnegan to naguto insted of keeping it for himself so that he il once bring back madara just like did peviously nd naguto il saifised for it.......and the 2 braothers il unite back....with the Rinnegan...thanks to naruto it didnt happened...! now as madara came back he needs a uchiha blood with ems who ill accomodate his soul with reinngen....sasuke............and the moons eye plan...under control of world for 2 brothers....with the powers of sage of 6 paths.....tailed beasts.....
nd madara is the most inteligent..........

 

[true enigma]

in the narutoverse there are many characters who are geniuses but in very different ways... For example, oro's studies wont be rivaled, itachis anylitical skills are 2nd to none but shikimarus(sorry spelling?) IQ and battle tactics are 1 of a kind.

So what im showing here is the genius of these people can only be compared to those with the same type of intelligence if any... The way in which they are genius is all very different.

 

[khaydz5]

Itachi:
-Genius
-Learns ninjutsu really fast
-Activated sharingan early
-Graduated quickly
-Became anbu captain at a young age
-Hid Shisui's eye
-Devises a plan to annihilate his entire clan in one night
-Kept quiet about all of this and put on a face for everyone
-Enlisted the help of Tobi (Mandara at the time)
-Manages to get into Akatsuki and spy on them (two bird with one stone)
-Manipulates the elders and Danzo to protect his brother
-Decieved all of Akatsuki till the very end with only Tobi knowing the truth
-Able to fight Konoha ninja while never actually harming them but still looking like the bad guy
-Devised a plan for his brother to kill him in the end and recieve glory
-Devised another plan when his brother went bad, planning the use of his eyes would activate Shisui's eye.
-Figures out enemies techniques easily and knows exactly how to counter attack
-Knew exactly what he should do in the war (stop endos), being able to see the bigger picture.

Shikamaru:
-Has been said to be smart
-Devised good plans inbattle, rather simple but effective.
-Stresses out in heated situations (has to do his hand thingy)
-Battle with Temari was a disappointment
-Can play japanese chess
-Multiple quotes about how smart he is but has never been proven
-Failed retrieving Saskue
-Failed with Hidan the first time
-Due to laziness, probably doesn't know many jutsus or about enemy jutsus

Summary:
Overall, If you take out all the quotes about how smart Shikamaru is, he pretty much sucks. He hasn't really proven how smart he is. When he does it really exaggerated because all other ninjas can do that without even thinking about it. Oh wow I can count the number of ninjas hiding, or following me. Oh wow I can force the opponent to stand there and trap them. Oh wow I tricked them coz they didn't see the little shadow. All these little tricks have been done a countless number of time by many ninja but isn't exaggereted as much. We don't get to see them think about it like Shikamaru but you know most ninjas do this instinctively (except Naruto coz hes a bit thick). Soz Shika fans but you havn't got any proof of how smart he is compared to normal ninjas let alone be compared with Itachi. Keep it in the stat books but thats the only place his intelligence is.

LOL fanboy, half of what you said was achieved because of itachi's "sharingan" and being an "uchiha". its not associated with intelligence in anyway. for example, yes he can quickly learn new jutsus because of the sharingan obviously.

when did he deceived all of akatsuki? I mean does the member really care about itachi's back story? lol. all they care is having a member who can capture the tailed beasts for them, they don't have initial interview or background check when recruiting buddy.

I think you missed the part where itachi admitted something, it was a message from itachi to his fanboys:::

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don't over estimate him, in the end, he only failed. lol

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Nice thread

 

[-Logic-]

Nice thread

Thank you.

 

[HashiramaDescendant]

Shikamaru's laziness interfered with his intelligence.

 

[Shinobi Train]

Nice thread

Yes, it is a nice thread...I just wish there was a poll so that it would be solved once and for all by popular vote. U_U

 

[yellow flash94]

yes agreed itachi quickly analysed chibaku tensei and found it's weakness,but then minato's ability to percieve things were far greater.
1)It was clearly shown that he could sense others presence just by touching the ground with his fingers.
2)In his battle against tobi he not only read through his space-time migration but also struck him down with rasengan,then placed a contract seal and even derived tobi's ideology within minutes.
3)He even understood the similarity in his ideology and that of the akatsuki.
4)That is why he made naruto the jhinchuriki of nine-tails in the first place.

So considering all these were done by him in matter of minutes and that too when his priority was to save his village from nine-tails and protect his family,makes him the most intellectual charecter of narutoverse, because lets admit fighting under such pressure situation is not easy.and anyways who has itachi ever had to look after except himself in all of his fight.So,Itachi being the most intelligent is a joke,even shikaku is far more tactical,he had coordinate the entire allied forces army.

 

[Darth Atlas]

I think tobi because he held the strings for the entire naruto plot which makes him a better puppeteer then sasori

 

[Icelerate]

Okay so there are different type of intelligence:

1. Knowledge: This one goes to Tobi, then Kabuto, then Itachi .
2. Deception: This one goes to Itach, then Kabuto, then Tobi, then Shikamaru
3. Strategy: This one goes to Shikaku, then Shikamaru, then Itachi, then Kakashi

 

[esemes]

To be honest Shikamaru would have made Kabuto release his technik by his shadow technik without killing him too. And I don't see the intelligence in keeping someone as long as possible away to use a forbidden Uchiha technik?!!!
WOW intelligent ~_~

But I believe he is still a lil bit experienced than Shikamaru. And the most intelligence chara imo is Minato. He has planned things for Naruto in future (in advance).

 

[Mellorox9]

Shikamaru!