You don't have to announce your jutsu names. Naruto has used rasengan without shouting it. Sasuke has used amaterasu and chidori without shouting them.
Madara didn't have to say preta path's name just to use it.
You don't have to announce your jutsu names. Naruto has used rasengan without shouting it. Sasuke has used amaterasu and chidori without shouting them.
Madara didn't have to say preta path's name just to use it.
You dont have to announce your jutsu name but you should at least once. Name one user who have not shouted thier jutsu name not even once. Everyone in NV does that like in Every action anime.
I know that energy refers to chakara. I'm saying that his line "too much energy" is short for "too much chakara to get hit by, if I get hit by that much chakara I'll lose".
If there was such a rinnegan absorption limit, then why would Madara say "too much energy" when he absorbed the whole thing? If you were right, then he should have instead said "That amount of chakara almost surpassed my limit" or something like that, because clearly the jutsu wasn't too much for him to absorb.
Where is your proof that he doesn't know the jutsu name? He doesn't have to announce the technique names in order to use them.
@Bold: This people, is why we can't have civil discussions. Also, you clearly don't know what "illiterate" means, because if you did, then you would know that an illiterate person wouldn't be able to read your posts and respond to them, nor would they be able to read the manga, and they probably wouldn't be on this site in the first place.
You dont have to announce your jutsu name but you should at least once. Name one user who have not shouted thier jutsu name not even once. Everyone in NV does that like in Every action anime.
Amenominaka
Yomotsu hirasaka
80 gods vaccum attack
Final truth seeking ball
Etc...
The only jutsu she ever announced was all killing ash bone.
Also, from a writing perspective, the author wouldn't need to have a subsequent rinnegan user (after Nagato) announce every path he uses because we had already seen preta path and we know what it looks like.
Amenominaka
Yomotsu hirasaka
80 gods vaccum attack
Final truth seeking ball
Etc...
The only jutsu she ever announced was all killing ash bone.
Also, from a writing perspective, the author wouldn't need to have a subsequent rinnegan user (after Nagato) announce every path he uses because we had already seen preta path and we know what it looks like.
Kaguya couldnt even think properly, zetsu was giving her the directions to battle. Thats an exception. Name any other shinobi who was in full control of his or her mind and still didnt say the jutsu name even once. Maybe some fodder but not top tier.
Obito's eyes contain his memories. Why do you think Ao could use byakugan perfectly? Its not an asspull.
You illiterate, this is what happens you don't read the manga, remember how BZ manipulated the tablet? He wrote some utter bullsh*t there. The reason why madara thought he was the saviour and even thought he was SO6P himself. Why didn't he use even one jutsu of your rinnegan with the jutsu name? He must've known the names since he was the first possessor right? Cant you think with logic and not bullsh*t? Never did he even use the purple dragons which nagato used, instead used the chains of gedo. If he did that, all the alliance wouldve been wiped out.
lol @ obito's eyes with memories ... Like Obito even had PS in the first place.
Just ignored that tablet thing, is irrelevant and boring. Madara used Susano'o without eyes, who's to say he can't use the other abilities as well? Nevermind Madara, explain Sasuke using both Chibaku Tensei and Bansho tennin, or all the rinnegans also have a basic gravity pull move?.
Also, all the paths used their abilities (including Deva at least once) without naming them, if naming is vital to the technique, then what were they using?
Seriously, is so obvious, beginning with the title of the Sage that's it's not even funny to discuss this. Basically you're saying that the guy who was named "Sage of the six paths" couldn't use the paths since apparently it's only Nagato's technique. Ok.
Well in Nagato’s case he had the Rinnegan at a young age, was trained by Jiraiya with it, and after becoming crippled by the Gedo Mazo, had years to develop his techniques in the shadows before showing to the world.
Same with Madara, he awoke his Rinnegan as an old man, had the tablet for reference, and years to study its use.
Sasuke was a special case I suppose. Or maybe the techs happen instinctively at some point. Like putting your hand up to shield your face when someone takes a swing at you, or maybe he learned by watching others like Maddy and Obito use it during the war and kind of tried it out for himself with the aforementioned results.
Thanks....though i am still of the opinion that Kishimoto just went with asspulls when it came to Madara to make him untouchable.....i don't think the tablet had any information regarding jutsus other than infinite tsukuyomi. Nagato's case is believable although jiraiya couldn't have trained him in 6 paths because when he fought them in Ame he had no clue about them.
I can't comment on Tengai Shinsei because it doesn't have a page in the databook nor it's been explained in the manga. That isn't Preta Path because countless characters have shown to absorb Chakra, and blind Madara did so even without eyes. Absorbing Chakra/Jutsu /=/ Preta Path. Preta Path is an orb that absorbs Chakra/Ninjutsu without limit, and can be used with other techniques at the same time, as stated in the databook; neither Sasuke or Madara shown an absorption similar to that. Momoshiki uses the Rinnegan to absorb, but his absorption is different. We don't say that's Preta Path straight away. Ability to use KKG comes from using Rikudou Senjutsu, which can be acquired by 9 Bijus or Jubi; it doesn't matter what the source is. Rikudou Senjutsu is what enabled Madara to use Ranton.
True we have seen many shinobi absorb chakra but hardly by absorbing the jutsu.....we have Aburame with bugs, A guy who fought Sasuke in preliminary of chuunin exams and finally Meiton kkg which absorbs jutsus.....but madara did use preta without any doubt....also i don't think it was necessary for a shinobi to call out his technique to use it...Sasuke used Ameno without calling out its name......RSM is something which can be called both godly or just hyped depending on perspective especially Understanding of all things part.....however Naruto only combined aspects of biju chakra with his already existing techniques....Madara was simply flinging out new techniques he couldn't have tried out in his life.......that's why it was suspicious when he used them effortlessly
The Shinu is powerful because it's the highest form of Senjutsu chakra, it's the equivalent of the Norse world tree in the sense it's 'one' with the the universe (NE).
The chakra it develops doesn't come only from NE however, it was explained that the flower bloomed as a result of consuming the dead bodies of fallen soldiers over the course of history.
Basically the tree gained it's source of physical and spiritual energy from dead bodies and combined with its connection to NE it produces the Shinju fruit.
So what you want to say is Shinju is NE while the fruit gave simple chakra to Kaguya???? ALso only Hagoromo is referred to as Sage never Hamura...that implies only Hagoromo had sage chakra
lol @ obito's eyes with memories ... Like Obito even had PS in the first place.
Just ignored that tablet thing, is irrelevant and boring. Madara used Susano'o without eyes, who's to say he can't use the other abilities as well? Nevermind Madara, explain Sasuke using both Chibaku Tensei and Bansho tennin, or all the rinnegans also have a basic gravity pull move?.
Also, all the paths used their abilities (including Deva at least once) without naming them, if naming is vital to the technique, then what were they using?
Seriously, is so obvious, beginning with the title of the Sage that's it's not even funny to discuss this. Basically you're saying that the guy who was named "Sage of the six paths" couldn't use the paths since apparently it's only Nagato's technique. Ok.
Yes this is correct....NAruto even stated that Kakashi copied Sasuke's susanoo....Obito never had it because you require both MS to awaken Susano. Madara using Susano without eyes was the biggest BS Kishi came up with.....next he can say Madara could cast Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi without eyes
He used the Rinnegan to absorb that Jutsu, as he said it himself with his fight against 5 Kages. But I can't see the relevancy to your question, because Blind Madara was also absorbing Jutsu.
True we have seen many shinobi absorb chakra but hardly by absorbing the jutsu.....we have Aburame with bugs, A guy who fought Sasuke in preliminary of chuunin exams and finally Meiton kkg which absorbs jutsus.....but madara did use preta without any doubt....also i don't think it was necessary for a shinobi to call out his technique to use it...Sasuke used Ameno without calling out its name......RSM is something which can be called both godly or just hyped depending on perspective especially Understanding of all things part.....however Naruto only combined aspects of biju chakra with his already existing techniques....Madara was simply flinging out new techniques he couldn't have tried out in his life.......that's why it was suspicious when he used them effortlessly
Madara never used Preta Path. He's not even listed as user in databook, only Nagato was. His absorption form was different from Nagato's, even though both require Rinnegan for usage, and he did it when he was blind, so I don't think there is concrete proof he used Preta Path, when he was absorbing techniques whilst blind.
also i don't think it was necessary for a shinobi to call out his technique to use it
If this was true then why did Madara and Sasuke say Chibaku Tensei, if there was no need? If the author wants to give characters Nagato's techniques, then it would make sense to have them say it.
Madara was simply flinging out new techniques he couldn't have tried out in his life.......that's why it was suspicious when he used them effortlessly
You're overthinking this. Hosting the Ten Tails gave him the ability to mix Nature Transformations. There wouldn't be any need for experience, if there is a power that gives you the ability to perform something automatically.
He used the Rinnegan to absorb that Jutsu, as he said it himself with his fight against 5 Kages. But I can't see the relevancy to your question, because Blind Madara was also absorbing Jutsu.
I hope you see it now? Pay attention to the lines inside the orb and how they are drawn because they're indicating that the jutsu is getting sucked in, which means it's preta path.
I hope you see it now? Pay attention to the lines inside the orb and how they are drawn because they're indicating that the jutsu is getting sucked in, which means it's preta path.
Madara never used Preta Path. He's not even listed as user in databook, only Nagato was. His absorption form was different from Nagato's, even though both require Rinnegan for usage, and he did it when he was blind, so I don't think there is concrete proof he used Preta Path, when he was absorbing techniques whilst blind.
Assuming? Okay I'd advise you to take a closer look then, at the 2nd scan and middle panel with Preta's path corpse and it's hands...
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Now look again and Madara's orb, do you see how the inside of the orb was drawn? I hope you understand now, that it's one and same jutsu - preta path .
Yes. There is some weird way Dojutsu users gain information in their eyes which is why they can use jutsu's they never used or even seen before. Probably has something to do with it being related to Yin release which is imagination. With that said, it makes me reflect about that statement Sasuke said about becoming immortal and now I'm more confident he would've found it.
You know, that's actually something I've always wondered about as well. I think it's more so one of those things that never get explained in manga and you're supposed to just ignore it, though it is possible that the eyes carry universal knowledge about their inherent abilities as soon as they get connected to the brain, or something convenient like that. I'd buy it, honestly, there's obviously not many other ways to justify it since... well, they haven't learned or trained for them.
Assuming? Okay I'd advise you to take a closer look then, at the 2nd scan and middle panel with Preta's path corpse and it's hands...
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Now look again and Madara's orb, do you see how the inside of the orb was drawn? I hope you understand now, that it's one and same jutsu - preta path .
That orb was a drawing mistake. Prior and after that moment, Madara was never shown with an orb when absorbing a Jutsu, except that instant whereas Nagato was always either himself or through Gakido Pain. So it's pretty obvious the orb in that scan was a mistake, as Kishimoto made drawing mistakes a lot. I'll point out examples:
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] Not shown with an orb when absorbing Amatersu, and added with the fact he was blind, thus making your presumption of him using Preta Path invalid, if he could absorb Jutsu while blind.
I want to also add on few things:
1. Nagato has shown no limit when absorbing techniques. ET Madara's limit was FRS; if he was actually using Gakido, he would make no such statement.
2. Nagato could use Gakido with other techniques simultaneously. ET Madara couldn't absorb and use Susanoo at the same time.
3. Blind Madara was absorbing techniques with no eyes. You want to claim Blind Madara has Preta Path too? The fact of the matter that he could absorb while blind invalidates that he was using Gakido with Rinnegan.
4. Databook lists Nagato as sole user of Gakido.
The only similar absorption trait Nagato and Madara had was both required Rinnegan to absorb, but that trait can be said for Momoshiki as well. Everything else was different. There is no concrete proof he had Gakido, especially if he could absorb whilst blind.
