Dark Sonic
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If you are a Muslim as you say, why not listen to Imams and Sheikhs to get a better understanding of God?
[Discussion] the Idead that destructed my believing in God
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Firstly, this is the most entertaining this week, brutally honest,
That being said, I have couple of arguments to your op:
-What if god created the universe for our sake, say you are the Soul reincarnating over and over, and to free god makes universe and maintains it, if he ain't there, we all ****ed, so like nothing good would happen if he ain't there,
-Secondly, mayne he is just ignoring our ignorance, I mean if I made a thread saying 'sicujsjsjw' would you bother giving a ****? What's to say the creater of infinite universes would care whether a microorganism acknowledges him or not, he's real either way, we the one struggling.
Those are just arguments off my head, they're not baseless but w/o proff, but so are yours.
What I am saying is maybe you ought to first find a base and expand your knowledge about various religions, think around something, not just in thin air.
That being said, I have couple of arguments to your op:
-What if god created the universe for our sake, say you are the Soul reincarnating over and over, and to free god makes universe and maintains it, if he ain't there, we all ****ed, so like nothing good would happen if he ain't there,
-Secondly, mayne he is just ignoring our ignorance, I mean if I made a thread saying 'sicujsjsjw' would you bother giving a ****? What's to say the creater of infinite universes would care whether a microorganism acknowledges him or not, he's real either way, we the one struggling.
Those are just arguments off my head, they're not baseless but w/o proff, but so are yours.
What I am saying is maybe you ought to first find a base and expand your knowledge about various religions, think around something, not just in thin air.
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Aaargh! Too many errors!
OT: if god deletes oneself from existance, we humans wouldnt be able to comprehend it or even imagine what happens next.
Seriously, the point of believe if the supreme on is that that one is BOTH beginning AND end. The closest one that we humans can think of god dying is just reseting.
Because how can you prove or disprove that?
You cant. To you, if god decides to die, god cant create oneself again. How do you think god came to be? Did someone create god? If so, then the creator of "god" is the real god. "God" is then just a diety.
OT: if god deletes oneself from existance, we humans wouldnt be able to comprehend it or even imagine what happens next.
Seriously, the point of believe if the supreme on is that that one is BOTH beginning AND end. The closest one that we humans can think of god dying is just reseting.
Because how can you prove or disprove that?
You cant. To you, if god decides to die, god cant create oneself again. How do you think god came to be? Did someone create god? If so, then the creator of "god" is the real god. "God" is then just a diety.
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watch DarkMatter2525 and or anticitzenX's Philosophical Failures of Christian Apologetics series. really good stuff
(I'm making an assumption that you are talking about the Christian god, though the points in the video apply to other religions as well)
(I'm making an assumption that you are talking about the Christian god, though the points in the video apply to other religions as well)
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That question is called a God paradox. Just because a human can't solve it, doesn't mean God can't.
And all you established was that God can't contradict himself (it's what a God paradox is, essentially). That doesn't disprove the idea of God.
Can God create boulders he cannot lift? Can God create another equal version of him, and then, get rid of it? All God paradoxes, and all questions our minds, like other paradoxes, cannot solve. Right now, you're not asking God to solve it. You're asking humans, but we cannot give you an answer so you assume God can't either which is an incorrect way of thinking.
And all you established was that God can't contradict himself (it's what a God paradox is, essentially). That doesn't disprove the idea of God.
Can God create boulders he cannot lift? Can God create another equal version of him, and then, get rid of it? All God paradoxes, and all questions our minds, like other paradoxes, cannot solve. Right now, you're not asking God to solve it. You're asking humans, but we cannot give you an answer so you assume God can't either which is an incorrect way of thinking.
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The last line? Saying that God would prove his existence when you typed this? If you knew anything about any religion, you'd know why God doesn't have to.
@Bold. That means you never believed in God to start with and that quote isn't really an argument, just a statement of your opinion.
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I don't know. Like I said, you're asking God to do things that don't make sense. They don't make sense to me but I'm not the one who is omniscient (all knowing). God is.
In essence, your way of thinking is we can't do this ridiculously insane thing, as humans, therefore God doesn't exist. That way of thinking is asinine.
RED : prove it !!
ok let me help you...this was 1 of the replies i tried to reason my self with :
1-god is so omnicient and so smart that he can make 1+1=5 seem very logic....lets say this answer makes sense from logic and science standpoint....but from ethical standpoint it will fail and won't make any sense....if god had answers to disprove atheists then why isn't he revealing them to both his belivers and atheists.....means god did injustice here and isn't fair got me now?
