The Hyuga Clan predated Rikidou Sennin

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Wait why does the Byakugan have to come from someone else and not the sage? I mean it never said the elder son was a Uchiha, he was the ancestor of Uchiha's and most likely Hyuga's. The elder son seemed to neither have a rinnegan, sharingan nor byakugan. So the elder son's childern's children could have become the first hyuga which then turned into the Uchiha.
 

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unless kishi has actually stated that So6P married a Hyuga woman, you have ZERO proof. youre just making speculations. sorry to inform you that
 

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there was no hyuga or byakugan before so6p
 

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This theory actually makes sense.

But I find it really hard to believe because your the guy who made the Idashi Uchiha thread.:flaw:
And you say that you know who Tobi is, and somehow you have read a ton of secret pages not released to the public.:sy:
 

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Pure speculation


Even the statement in part 1 about the sharingan being an off shoot of byakugan was in story speculation.

First son had a rinnegan off shoot, if the mother was the Doujutsu user then what is the significance of the father having rinnegan and passing it down to the first born.
 

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It would make sense if Rikudo's wife was Hyuuga :)
Nice, I haven't thought much about this subject in Naruto before
Hyuuga (Wife) + Uzumaki (So6p) = Uchiha (elder son) / Senju (younger son) ?
 

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Actually more mutations are harmful than helpful and even then helpful mutations hardly ever get passed down. This can be backed up from real world observations.

Yes, you are right. I guess I worded it wrong. :p If Sharingan is born out of Byakugan, it isn't wise to think that Byakugan is a latent Sharingan... Sharingan can after Byakugan, it's abilities are evolved and probably different from Byakugan... sounds better now?

This theory actually makes sense.

But I find it really hard to believe because your the guy who made the Idashi Uchiha thread.:flaw:
And you say that you know who Tobi is, and somehow you have read a ton of secret pages not released to the public.:sy:

Shhhhh! He read the Tablets at the Uchiha Secret meeting place under the 7th Tatami tile at the Nakano Shrine... He has the Mangakyou ByakuRinnegan.

*sarcasm* I will not let you insult this guy U_U *sarcasm*
 

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I've rewatched the episode, and the translation that I've seen is mutation. Which is why I came to my conclusion the way I did.
 
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Your statement is is based off what you have said, and you're expecting people to just except it without proof and move on. People cannot do that because they need to be heard as well. They also need proof because we as a society have been brought to believe that nothing can be true without PHYSICAL evidence (written or orally). In this case from the manga or Kishi. Not everyone's thinking is on the same level as yours or think in the same way you do. Its not logical to assume they do, Or think others are stupid because they don't understand or see things the way you do.

I also want to point out I do like your theory and because I'm a huge fan of the hyuga, but however like a lot of people on here I need physical evidence; Not someone saying that this is what happened because its what happened.

We also have to take into account that there is many people to translate the manga's and Anime and not all of them are the same wording. So we do have to look at that.
yeah SOCIETY BROUGHT AND PROGRAMMED YOU as such to believe the way you do which is flawed, Well sir your PHYSICAL EVIDENCE will be revealed 7 months from now, but for now this is evidence enough alone but not Visual literate proof but (metaphoricly) the Hyugas are Kohona's oldest and greatest bloodline. The origins of the Uchiha lie with the Hyuga.
 

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so6p is said to be the founder of ninjutsu and all ninja arts.... so there can be no ninja before his time....
 

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dude if you go on elder son wikii it said byukan came from him. may be he had a hyuga wife that couldnt use the byukanan.this what i think hyuga came first from the es nd uzumaki came first from ys. then uchiha came from hyuga and senju came uzumaki. i think hyugas were the one that killed the uzumaki. they arent evil now but many hundereds years before they hated each other just like how the uchiha hate the senju.
 

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I didn't say they were descendents of the uchiha. I said the uchiha could be descendents of the hyuuga that were descedents of the elder brother. Both clans have eye techniques that allow them to see chakra, though they have other different abilities. It could be that the hyuugas predated them, but had a mutation that turned into the sharingan.

you know how retarded that sounds, so the out of the 3 eyes the weakest one is the one that created the two stronger ones. smh i fear for this genereation :sy:
 

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yeah SOCIETY BROUGHT AND PROGRAMMED YOU as such to believe the way you do which is flawed, Well sir your PHYSICAL EVIDENCE will be revealed 7 months from now, but for now this is evidence enough alone but not Visual literate proof but (metaphoricly) the Hyugas are Kohona's oldest and greatest bloodline. The origins of the Uchiha lie with the Hyuga.

Dude are you even reading what your putting down, " Hyugas are Kohona's oldest and greatest bloodline" who started kohona Senju and Uchiha , who were the two most feared clans Uchiha and Senju. Did anyone fear a Hyuga? No, did the Hyuga even help start kohona? No. Your whole theory flawed , I could except this theory more if you stated IMO but your trying to put stuff together without thinking and getting childish and immature with whoever doesn't agree with your flawed theory.
 

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i guess that would explain the older sons wierd spiral rinnegan
 
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