The Hyuga Clan Is Over rated

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The hyugas were put in a side after part 1.

Kishimoto D rided the uchihas like a boss.

I hope for part 3 to the hyugas to get some justice, well they will because bolt and his sister are hyugas.
 

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Juubi was already restrained in power by obito U_U
A weaker juubi who was restrained in power by obito could casually ***** slap the most OP'ed bijuu's yet a stronger version failed to ignore hiashi's wall palm or rotations an got casually overpowered by these techniques.

Also this is off topic but i wanted to destroy ur thread about sakura soloing the whole clan at night but i couldn't so ill just leave this here in reference to that


Cant catch hiashi slipping, sakura gets wall palmed before she touches the ground or summons the slug.
 
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Personally i do not take any hyuga fan seriously, especially when they try and claim an hyuga can defeat an MS user. Especially their 'counters' to sharingan/Ms techniques is always amusing to read. This is great stuff to the noobs, otherwise nothing too concerning.

Reality, the average 3T sharingan user has already been put above the average Byakugan user.

Some also try and claim the byakugan is superior to the 3T.
Another reason i don't take them seriously. Manga has put the uchiha and sharingan above the hyuga and the byakugan.
See no reason to waste time with them.
 
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Personally i do not take any hyuga fan seriously, especially when they try and claim an hyuga can defeat an MS user. Especially their 'counters' to sharingan/Ms techniques is always amusing to read. This is great stuff to the noobs, otherwise nothing too concerning.

Reality, the average 3T sharingan user has already been put above the average Byakugan user.

Some also try and claim the byakugan is superior to the 3T.
Another reason i don't take them seriously. Manga has put the uchiha and sharingan above the hyuga and the byakugan.
See no reason to waste time with them.
The Byakugan was stated to have better insight than the sharingan. That and no MS user has the power to hold back the Juubi.
 
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Fodrisha calm down. An Uchiha would fear the name of the Hyuga.
not suprised to see u here once again replying to me! Uchiha have nothing to fear from an irrelevant fodder clan! The hyuga clan is featless! It's not my fault the hyuga clan was left on the sidelines and not developed strength wise as they should have been. Kishi dont like the hyuga clan neither. Any MS User can solo the entire Hyuga clan. Fact! So much for a so called noble clan!
 
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not suprised to see u here once again replying to me!
Whats with me replying to you? I reply to everyone. Well of course besides myself.

Uchiha has nothing to fear from an irrelevant fodder clan! The clan is featless!
Oh the Hyuga clan does have feats. Its sad how one of the best Hyuga fans has not posted in this thread. Let me show you one of his brilliant posts recently.

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Hyuga allow to manipulate chakra from every tenketsu in their body, simply put they are best when it comes to Chakra control.

There are 361 tenketsu in the body, each one being a checkpoint on the Chakra Pathway System. Though ninja use chakra regularly, very few ninja possess any great control over their tenketsu. Even of jōnin, the vast majority are only capable of releasing a small amount of chakra through their hands or feet to increase the power of punches, jumps, or kicks. For the Hyūga clan, whose entire fighting style is based around manipulating the chakra pathway system, controlling the tenketsu is a regular matter.



Chakra expulsion is used in different forms of defence used by the Hyuuga's. For example, another often overlooked ability is to expel chakra instantly from the body in a powerful manner, which is regarded to as a full body gentle fist

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This ability allow to expel and even destroy chakra similarly to gentle fist.

The last notable thing in the Hyuuga's defence is this
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It allows a user to create a massive chakra amount around them since they expel chakra from each of their Tenketsu,

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which then in turn allows them not only to create a decent defence but also gain the ability to detect, or in other words, contact sense similarly to Jiraiya's Canopy formation sensing. Moreover, this is basically what Neji uses

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The Hyuga also have the ability to destabilise an attack used against you. Simpily put anything that are made of chakra substance can be easily destroyed.

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For example, Kakashi couldn't escape the inferior water prison Zabuza used on him

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whereas Neji did so rather easily

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by expelling his chakra into the Water prison and unbalancing the control Kisame has over it.




The more chakra inputted to the user, the more damage he takes. Kidomaru had organ damage because Neji inserted a lot of chakra into his body, which then destroyed his organs

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This suggests that using large scale attacks such as Hiashi's Juubi sized Air palm

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can kill an opponent with ease, and possibly demolish large constructs such as Susano and other Chakra avatars. And inb4 no speed feats, Neji used a small variant and Kisame failed to dodge it

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the same Kisame who was reacting to v1 Bee and dodged a Raiton Pencil from point blank range. This is a small version, now imagine the Juubi sized Air palm used by Hiashi, it's basically impossible to dodge by anyone bar Rikudo tiers and it's basically guaranteed a kill if it has enough force to block the Juubi tail while also using chakra to destroy the enemies organs (or entire body in this case). And yes, it does destroy chakra as shown in the DB4, where the only difference between this and Kaguya's multiple Vacuum palms is power. Thus this ability is in a new league.


Since Hinata's Twin Lion Fists is taught by the main house to only a select few who have the chakra control to utilise it, Hiashi has it too, as he is the one passing it down as the main family leader. According to the databook, lionfist does not only increase the shape & form increase mid range destructive attack and or block all the chakras point but also sap all the chakra to whom when he/she touch.

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Notice it said `` slightest mistake in chakra control`` will completely disrupe it. Thus it increases destructive power and reach greatly, while also giving the attribute of absorbing chakra.


This attack is a clear example of shape manipulation, a pretty big one too, seeing as how Hinata is able to shape-shift her chakra to resemble Lion heads.

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Their chakra control are so great that they can even expel chakra from all 361 tenketsu covering the space within the field of vision surrounding the user which the purpose is to detect or allowing them to fully utilize chakra with attacks such as the Eight Trigrams Palms Revolving Heaven and the Gentle Fist Art One Blow Body techniques

By now, it should be making sense that the Hyuga's are the chakra masters, absorbing, destroying, expelling and analysing chakra all due to the Byakugan.. Pretty overpowered, especially knowing the fact that Hiashi's is even bigger and stronger than that.

^See this post? Its full of Hyuga feats. If you need anymore than read the manga.

It's not my fault the hyuga clan was left on the sidelines and not developed strength wise as they should have been. Kishi dont like the hyuga clan neither.
So are you trying to say you actually care for the Hyuga?
 

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Deva Path couldn't push a tailed beast back.

Only Hinata had Kyuubi chakra when she did that. Her power up from the last should be greater.
Deva was already weakened he wiped village and knocked the hell away giant toads comparable with biju in size.

Hinata had cloak while neji and hiashi are both superior users then hinata used double rotation to repel attack, therefore single rotation wouldnt cut it.

Rotation is strictly defensive and cant be estimated to defeat skilled enemy.

@bold Lovely speculation, we dont know how powerful hamura was or if he's on par with kyubi cloak, but did hinata solo anything with that power?
 

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Reality, the average 3T sharingan user has already been put above the average Byakugan user
Where? What about a 3T sharingan gives them an edge against the a byakugan user? copy jutsu? against gentle fist?

Some also try and claim the byakugan is superior to the 3T.
Another reason i don't take them seriously. Manga has put the uchiha and sharingan above the hyuga and the byakugan.
It was stated by our own Kakashi that our own Sasuke (with 2T) wouldn't stand a chance against Neji even before neji revealed 8T: 64 Palms. 3T only gives a slight boost in speed, nothing more given by it matters in that fight. I'm talking 2 geniuses here, but then you consider the point below:

The average Uchiha doesn't have Sharingan, let alone 3-tomoe sharingan. Byakugan on the other hand is common even among weak Hyugas.

Do some basic math, and you'll end up with fights where the majority of one-on-one fights between the clan are Byakugan vs normal eyes. At that point it doesn't matter if Sharingan is better than Byakugan. Are you saying that Byakugan actually makes the user weaker than not having it? What makes it so valuable that other countries try to steal it then?
 

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Reality, the average 3T sharingan user has already been put above the average Byakugan user
Where? What about a 3T sharingan gives them an edge against the a byakugan user? copy jutsu? against gentle fist?

Some also try and claim the byakugan is superior to the 3T.
Another reason i don't take them seriously. Manga has put the uchiha and sharingan above the hyuga and the byakugan.
It was stated by our own Kakashi that our own Sasuke (with 2T) wouldn't stand a chance against Neji even before neji revealed 8T: 64 Palms. 3T only gives a slight boost in speed, nothing more given by it matters in that fight. I'm talking 2 geniuses here, but then you consider the point below:

The average Uchiha doesn't have Sharingan, let alone 3-tomoe sharingan. Byakugan on the other hand is common even among weak Hyugas.

Do some basic math, and you'll end up with fights where the majority of one-on-one fights between the clan are Byakugan vs normal eyes. At that point it doesn't matter if Sharingan is better than Byakugan. Are you saying that Byakugan actually makes the user weaker than not having it? What makes it so valuable that other countries try to steal it then?
 

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Knocking back bijuus is feat of SM users no more. And if im not mistaken werent they enhanced by kyubi chakra?
Vacuum wall will ***** slap any bijuu , summons or chakra avatars bar PS tho its debatable. Hiashi's base wall palm > hinata's kurama enhanced vacuum palm > the force of V2 juubi tail sweep > V1 juubi hand slap > both Hachibi an kurama.


Also the force of V1 juubi's finger flick > the force of hachibi's TBB bein fired pointblank ( without explosion ) >>> all lesser bijuu's , so in the end hiashi's vacuum wall palm casually knocks back any bijuu easily, nuff said.
 

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Where? What about a 3T sharingan gives them an edge against the a byakugan user? copy jutsu? against gentle fist?
Where? from the countless hype between the two clans.
One of these hypes are these.




Those are merely a few hype that the uchiha clan have gained which predate itachi/sasuke or any the current uchiha clan.

In a fight between a 3T user and Byakugan user many advantages that the sharingan has over others is restricted. However due to their weapon mastery, katon + any other jutsu they have/copied should allow them victory. If worst comes to worse the use of izanagi which doesn't require senju dna could be used to decide the fight.

Don't want to get into any sort of vs thread debate

It was stated by our own Kakashi that our own Sasuke (with 2T) wouldn't stand a chance against Neji even before neji revealed 8T: 64 Palms. 3T only gives a slight boost in speed, nothing more given by it matters in that fight. I'm talking 2 geniuses here, but then you consider the point below:

The average Uchiha doesn't have Sharingan, let alone 3-tomoe sharingan. Byakugan on the other hand is common even among weak Hyugas.
No doubt Neji was stronger than Sasuke, but as you said this was 2T.
Even still with the 2T the sasuke that fought Gaara would give Neji one heck of a fight.
VOTE Sasuke defeated Kyuubi Naruto. The same Naruto who neji lost to, the cs2 played a part admittedly, however once the 3T was awakened Sasuke managed to track his movements.
If we pit hebi sasuke even before absorbing Orochimaru, the one who danced around team yamato is stronger than P2 Neji, even with CS2 restricted.

Yes the sharingan is considered rare even amongst uchiha's, that was stated in part 1. But rather than assuming that this may be due to some dna, it may be and most probable reason for this is because not everybody within the uchiha is a warrior. Some were merely shop keepers and not ninja's so would not have been in a situation where they would have awakened the sharingan.

Do some basic math, and you'll end up with fights where the majority of one-on-one fights between the clan are Byakugan vs normal eyes. At that point it doesn't matter if Sharingan is better than Byakugan. Are you saying that Byakugan actually makes the user weaker than not having it? What makes it so valuable that other countries try to steal it then?
Think you are assuming that not everybody within the uchiha clan couldn't awaken the sharingan. May not actually be the case as ive explained earlier. The warriors, the ninja's all these to possess the sharingan. From the fodders of the past to the popular uchiha's, to those of the police force all appeared to have the sharingan. So it may be a case of uchiha who don't have the sharingan not being warriors. But you are assuming that just because a hyuga who gets the byakugan by default, is a warrior. Just because they have the byakugan doesn't mean they are warriors, just means they were born with it.

Also nobody is saying that the byakugan makes anybody weaker. Yes kumo tried to steal it, but i actually think that is a dehype of the clan. For kumo to believe they can walk into the hyuga compound and take an hyuga. Perhaps they didn't try this with the uchiha and the sharingan because they knew the chances of a successful mission is next to nil, not that the sharingan doesn't have many admirers.

Anyway ill wrap it up by saying this.
If you haven't noticed kishi has set a precedent. The rarer a jutsu/technique or ability the powerful it is.
This law applies to the dojutsu as well, but also its advancement/power is determined by its requirements

As you said, the byakugan is common. The hyuga's all have it from the start.
The sharigan isn't, but also comes with requirements for awakening.
The ms is considered rarer, but also comes with its requirements.
The EMS even rarer and comes with its requirements
Rinnegan even rarer and comes with its requirements

The more powerful a doujutsu (or technique/ability/kg) is, the rarer it is. But also the requirements needed for it.
Power and requirements/rarity go hand in hand you see. That law has been set

Kishi doesn't do common when it comes to abilities that are considered OP. But also usually slaps some form of requirements needed.

Byakugan is common.
Isn't rare and doesn't need to be awakened
You do the math
 
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