The Gaiden Plothole Thread

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Gaiden had a lot of inconsistencies, unlikely plot occurences & straight up plot holes. Feel free to join in, this is only a few.

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List awkward red-herrings and elements that went nowhere as well as actual plotholes.

• What mission during an era at peace forced one of Konoha's strongest to a near-suicide jutsu?
  
  
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• Shin's affiliation to The Akatsuki was unlikely & insanely irrelevant. (forced red herring is forced)
  
  
• Expected to believe that Suigetsu wouldn't know the mother of Sasuke's kid. When him & his masters entire motivation is to follow Sasuke and watch what he does.
  
  
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• What was Sasuke doing for 14 years walking around a forest? How long does it take this lightning fast ninja to explore the place?
  
  
• Jugo is suddenly content not following Sasuke & his promise was never delivered.
  
  
• Why did Sakura crash the house if the birth issue wasn't a sore subject?
  
  
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• Shizune had no reason to not solve this entire family drama in one panel.
  
  
• Regardless of his Itachitherapy, Kabuto has been given fathership of 100+ MS Users. Nobody knows about or can prove the events of Izanami.
  
  
• If Sakura & Karin are friends why did Sakura hide her in the picture frame?
  
  
• Why did Sakura not pick up on Sarada asking odd questions and just tell her the non-dramatic truth?
  
  
• The several moments of characters forgetting they had powers.
  
  
• Sakura has never shown any interest in being or becoming a housewife and that is almost confirmed what she is.

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[*]Kabuto strangely has his scales and body modifications back.

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[Filosoofis]

some of them are plotholes while others are just well you're searching too hard for them like the Choji one.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

This is all I can leave you with.

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[Touka Kirishima]

wow you went hard on this one o.o i can't even counter any points.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Too many plotholes that the Gaiden isn't even worth considering.

 

[6thHokage]

I stopped reading at that first picture.

 

[Zawerni]

People still believe Sakura was trying to hide Karin. She was just using the Team Taka picture for Sasuke. With the shape of the frame, she couldn't fit her picture on the other side where Suigetsu was. :lol

 

[Mypower]

Lol nice post this to Kishi let's see what he thinks.

 

[MangaArtist007]

Stop being so unappreciative and ungrateful. It's not clever to stare at and reread manga to try and spot mistakes made by the human, hard working artist and team. If you don't like it, then fine that's your opinion, but this is unnecessary and uncalled for. What were you expected, the team of talented artists to get these chapters out to a weekly deadline with the occasion mistake that makes no difference whatsoever?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

I stopped reading at that first picture.

It's the first pic that shows up on google images. Don't be so sensitive.

 

[To Whatever]

-Butterfly Mode isn't suicidal for Choji anymore. Back then, to enter it you needed a solider pill which was incredibly lethal.

-An era of peace is the top villages having understanding of one another and not trying to secretly murder each other. There's probably still civil wars here and power struggles, between minor villages, Natural disasters among other things.

-Shin stated the Akatsui represented evolution or something like that iirc.

-Suigetsu and Taka aren't always around each other and judging by Karin's absence, they go to different hideouts on the regular. Orochimaru's end goal isn't observing Sasuke, it's immortality and all jutsu.

-Sasuke was investigating Kaguya's dimensions for those years

-Jugo is fine as long as Sasuke is alive

-Sakura wrecked the house because Sarada questioned the integrity of her parent's marriage

-It wasn't Shizune's place

-If you knew how Izanami worked, you should know that he can never go back to being the way he used to be.

-They aren't friends

-Sakura isn't that bright

-Gaiden nerfs and movie hype

-Yes she has

 

[guts2nevergiveup]

Yea agreed with your points. Also sarada having super strength doesn't make sense.

And yea choji's transformation is not suicidal anymore but it is weird that he needed it lol

 

[6thHokage]

It's the first pic that shows up on google images. Don't be so sensitive.

I was joking. I read the whole thing and I agree with all of your points.

 

[Joon]

I agree. The plot of the manga is questionable. Why was they hiding so much of her birth if she was truly the daughter of Sarada?

 

[GreyWizard93]

I can't be bothered to counter your nonsense but ill leave on kabuki had his marks when he revived sasuke. Remember the foot drama?

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Stop being so unappreciative and ungrateful. It's not clever to stare at and reread manga to try and spot mistakes made by the human, hard working artist and team. If you don't like it, then fine that's your opinion, but this is unnecessary and uncalled for. What were you expected, the team of talented artists to get these chapters out to a weekly deadline with the occasion mistake that makes no difference whatsoever?

All literature is held up to basic writing standards. I'm a director and a writer, so if something has noticeable, multiple moments of error the escapism fails & it takes you out of it. Every writer understands this and is open to constructive criticism. Gaiden over the last few months the forum has agreed to have many, resulting in it's poor reception.

So yeah, I think it might matter. I understand people are making this and I hate to hurt their feelings on an English-speaking internet forum they'll never read but if you don't challenge yourself and have standards then all art becomes trash. Simple as. I love Kishimoto and appreciate his works, having actually paid for this manga/anime- he is not above criticism.

 

[LordRaikage]

Gaiden had a lot of inconsistencies, unlikely plot occurences & straight up plot holes. Feel free to join in, this is only a few.

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List awkward red-herrings and elements that went nowhere as well as actual plotholes.

• 
  [*]What mission during an era at peace forced one of Konoha's strongest to a near-suicide jutsu?
  
  
  You must be registered for see images
  
  
• Shin's affiliation to The Akatsuki was unlikely & insanely irrelevant. (forced red herring is forced)
  
  
• Expected to believe that Suigetsu wouldn't know the mother of Sasuke's kid. When him & his masters entire motivation is to follow Sasuke and watch what he does.
  
  
  You must be registered for see images
  
  
  
  [*]What was Sasuke doing for 14 years walking around a forest? How long does it take this lightning fast ninja to explore the place?
  
  
• Jugo is suddenly content not following Sasuke & his promise was never delivered.
  
  
• Why did Sakura crash the house if the birth issue wasn't a sore subject?
  
  
  You must be registered for see images
  
  
• Shizune had no reason to not solve this entire family drama in one panel.
  
  
  [*]Regardless of his Itachitherapy, Kabuto has been given fathership of 100+ MS Users. Nobody knows about or can prove the events of Izanami.
  
  
• If Sakura & Karin are friends why did Sakura hide her in the picture frame?
  
  
• Why did Sakura not pick up on Sarada asking odd questions and just tell her the non-dramatic truth?
  
  
• The several moments of characters forgetting they had powers.
  
  
• Sakura has never shown any interest in being or becoming a housewife and that is almost confirmed what she is.

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[*]Kabuto strangely has his scales and body modifications back.

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good finds but:

1. Ninjas still go on missions because it's a peace era doesn't mean there aren't bad guys.

2. naruto can sense the darkest in someone's heart so he probably checked out kabuto

3. Sasuke just wanted an excuse to stay away from Sakura,so he has more time to try and win back karin.

 

[lndra]

Good thread. Gaiden is basically filler

 

[Endles Waltz]

Good thread. Gaiden is basically filler

Lmao, Now I've heard it all, Gaiden really rustled jimmies.

 

[LordRaikage]

Good thread. Gaiden is basically filler

feels like it some times.