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Hashirama is the most powerful Hokage. Period.

Why?

Edo Madara fodderizes the five current Kage:
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Edo Madara states the only one who can stop him is Hashirama:
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Edo Madara states that Tsunade's medical ninjutsu is worthless in comparison to Hashirama's:
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Edo Madara explains just how outclassed Tsunade was by her grandfather:
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Edo Madara states that the five Kage together are nothing compared to Hashirama:
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Edo Madara states that only he with his EMS could see through Hashirama's mokuton clone jutsu:
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Dan shouldn't count, but he says the only one who can beat Edo Madara is Hashirama:
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Madara must have known about Hiruzen and Minato because these guys gathered information for him; it's not as if he wasn't up-to-date with everything:
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Hashirama is superior to Tobirama (as much as I hate to say it):
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So, Edo Madara was shown to fodderize Tsunade (along with four other Kage), and Hashirama is shown to be superior to Tobirama (this is obvious, sadly), Hiruzen, and Minato through statements by Edo Madara (and Dan, who once again, shouldn't count).
 

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But yet you didnt show the panel where it was said as a fact that he was the strongest Hokage of all times, and not at his era.

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But yet you didnt show the panel where it was said as a fact that he was the strongest Hokage of all times, and not at his era.

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Then why was it stated that only Hashirama could stop Edo Madara? Furthermore, just who said this? That fodder named Iruka?

Because there are a greater number of more recent pages that support Hashirama being the most powerful, rather than just one panel from near the start of the manga, I'm still supporting Hashirama. And I'm a Tobirama guy.
 
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But yet you didnt show the panel where it was said as a fact that he was the strongest Hokage of all times, and not at his era.

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Hiruzen has nothing on Hashirama

f*ck the old man and his dam hype
(like Hiruzen jus this BS is getting so dam old and annoying)
 
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well by those facts - Hashirama > edo madara.. but then again ch 609 said Madara > Hashirama.. so i dont know anymore.
Not necessarily. It says that Hashirama is the only one that COULD stop Edo Madara; not that he was superior.

But this is about how Hashirama is the most powerful Hokage, anyways.
 
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Obito and madara are definitely going to turn against one another...when sasuke comes into play they will both be defeated but sasuke is. Definitely fighting for his own benefit.. i believe hes going to defeat obito when he finds out that he help with the uchiha massacre
 

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Obito and madara are definitely going to turn against one another...when sasuke comes into play they will both be defeated but sasuke is. Definitely fighting for his own benefit.. i believe hes going to defeat obito when he finds out that he help with the uchiha massacre
I don't see how this is relevant towards this thread. Maybe you posted on the wrong thread?
 

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Then why was it stated that only Hashirama could stop Edo Madara? Furthermore, just who said this? That fodder named Iruka?

Because there are a greater number of more recent pages that support Hashirama being the most powerful, rather than just one panel from near the start of the manga, I'm still supporting Hashirama. And I'm a Tobirama guy.
LOL! Read what Iruka said. "He WAS called the strongest..." and what did Hiruzen reply with? "Hey, Iruka!! Don't speak in PAST TENSE!!" Hiruzen himself admitted he IS the strongest of the Hokage while alive.
 

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LOL! Read what Iruka said. "He WAS called the strongest..." and what did Hiruzen reply with? "Hey, Iruka!! Don't speak in PAST TENSE!!" Hiruzen himself admitted he IS the strongest of the Hokage while alive.
Then why was it stated by Edo Madara himself that the only person who could stop him was Hashirama? And why did Dan, a jounin-level shinobi who lived during Hiruzen's "prime", say that the only person who could stop Edo Madara would be Hashirama, especially when he doesn't know whether Hiruzen's alive or not? Furthermore, why is Hiruzen is barely mentioned whereas the Shodai is almost always referred to nowadays?

Hiruzen is not strongest he was made fodder
Preach.
 

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But yet you didnt show the panel where it was said as a fact that he was the strongest Hokage of all times, and not at his era.

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HIRUZEN FANS EXPOSEDDDD!!!

I have read 2 scans I have neverrr seen that in my life, that image was edited, why is it not in a speech bubblee!!

ALL Hiruzen fans lie, true story

AHAHAHAHAHA
 
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Hashirama is the most powerful Hokage. Period.

Why?

Edo Madara fodderizes the five current Kage:
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Edo Madara states the only one who can stop him is Hashirama:
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Edo Madara states that Tsunade's medical ninjutsu is worthless in comparison to Hashirama's:
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Edo Madara explains just how outclassed Tsunade was by her grandfather:
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Edo Madara states that the five Kage together are nothing compared to Hashirama:
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Edo Madara states that only he with his EMS could see through Hashirama's mokuton clone jutsu:
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Dan shouldn't count, but he says the only one who can beat Edo Madara is Hashirama:
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Madara must have known about Hiruzen and Minato because these guys gathered information for him; it's not as if he wasn't up-to-date with everything:
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Hashirama is superior to Tobirama (as much as I hate to say it):
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So, Edo Madara was shown to fodderize Tsunade (along with four other Kage), and Hashirama is shown to be superior to Tobirama (this is obvious, sadly), Hiruzen, and Minato through statements by Edo Madara (and Dan, who once again, shouldn't count).
your just some pissed off troll go some where, hashirama is all hype.

You talk about hashirama but using Edo Madara as your source, how original. Madara was obviously exaggerating about hashirama being the only one to stop him. Hashirama almost died the first time, so there is no way he could handle an Edo Madara. PERIOD
 

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Kishimoto retconned, simple as. I wouldn't exactly call that a fact either, that was just Iruka retelling what he'd heard from other people. Hardly a reliable source.
You seem to know Kishi well, nowhere has it been stated that he rectonned that. If anything he's been vary careful with his words hyping Hashirama like when Kabuto said nobody alive can compare to Hashirama which excludes Hiruzen.
 

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your just some pissed off troll go some where, hashirama is all hype.

You talk about hashirama but using Edo Madara as your source, how original. Madara was obviously exaggerating about hashirama being the only one to stop him. Hashirama almost died the first time, so there is no way he could handle an Edo Madara. PERIOD
I just shared my opinion, and I'm a pissed off troll? Man, NB is tough :T_T:

Now, how do you know he was exaggerating, Kishimoto?
 

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But yet you didnt show the panel where it was said as a fact that he was the strongest Hokage of all times, and not at his era.

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Look at the BADASS GLARE from Prime Hiruzen's statue? HOW can you say Hashi even COMPARES?
 
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