The Facts
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The Hidden Shinobi
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Don't worry man after I caught the hiruzen fans out on their lies and denial they won't be back. They always do this
Great Sage of Uchiha
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well maybe i jumped into this too hothead, I apologize for that and calling you a troll. I respect your opinion honestly; it's just a lot of hashirama fanboys jump on NB and it frustrating you know.
Now what i'm trying to say is, the way i figure is exaggerating is because it is out of respect of Hashirama, they had respect for each other so Madara wouldn't drag his Frienemies name through the mud like that. Yeah Madara maybe a **** but he has Honor.
Now back to my main point. remember the Madara Vs Hashirama fight, remember how F##ked up Both Hashirama and Madara were. Hashirama is only a > bit stronger then Madara. But the way i look at is Who knows how many times Hashirama and Madara have fought, as far as we know the score was 50/50 but it just so happened Hashirama won the "Valley of the end" fight. Hashirama barely walked away from that fight just like Madara barely walked way from that fight, so really there was no real winner.
In my opinion Madara exaggerated out of respect for Hashirama.
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Piratefish
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Hiruzen isn't even IN part 2, at least not in any of his "Prime"y Glory. Is there any Hashi art from part 2?
Omnipotent
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I'm a Tobirama fanboy, I just can't express it because there's no manga chapters to back him up.
Hashirama was still >>> EMS Madara. Madara had Kurama and possibly even Perfect Susanoo on his side, and still ended up with a sword through his body. Madara doesn't dispute that he lost:
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It's obvious that Madara and Hashirama both shared respect for each other, but that's not a reason exaggerate. He was talking in his head about Hashirama, too, so he was not exaggerating.
Omnipotent
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Well, yes in pictures. And the Hokage Monument was appears to have been redesigned.
Great Sage of Uchiha
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Lmao your a Tobirama senju fanboy and I'm a Izuna Uchiha fanboy; honestly it's a shame two great characters who are both as strong as their brothers don't get more backstory.
Omnipotent
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I openly admit this. I still think Tobirama is inferior to Hashirama, it's just that he seems so much cooler. And as you can see from my post on my other thread, I believe MS Izuna > MS Madara. They do need more back-story.Lmao your a Tobirama senju fanboy and I'm a Izuna Uchiha fanboy; honestly it's a shame two great characters who are both as strong as their brothers don't get more backstory.
Great Sage of Uchiha
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yeah i hear that, I really want Izuna to be in the next naruto game lol cause i would use a Tobirama and Izuna combo.
I agree MS Izuna i mean the dude was so boss he even kept fighting while blind, and I have to say i believe Tobirama was smarter then Hashirama because tobirama created T/S jutsu and Edo. I mean if Tobirama would have lived long who knows how much more he could have achieved and same goes for Izuna.
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Lightbringer
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Hiruzen taught Tsunade, jiraiya, and Oro and they are all weaker then he was....even Oro couldn't beat him easily when he was Old.....thus by that logic, since Hashi taught Hiruzen.....Hiruzen is weaker. Minato taught kakashi, though he's weaker. Madara taught Obito, yet he's weaker. Guy to Rock lee, yet he's weaker. List goes on. The only stronger characters or will be stronger characters than their mentors are the main cast of Naruto and Sasuke.
Omnipotent
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Izuna should have taken Madara's eyes. But of course, Madara's the older brother and looks cooler (I mean, he barely cares about anything right now).
I do agree that Tobirama created Edo Tensei and possibly even S/T jutsu (it's obvious Minato based his FTG off of Tobirama's S/T), however Hashirama still has that Scroll of Seals that we have only seen one jutsu from (Shadow Clone Jutsu). Once more, I agree with your points (Tobirama was obsessed with perfecting himself, and Izuna was better than Madara in a way).