The Europeans never "stole" America

[slimreaper]

It it often repeated that "the white man" stole America this is usually said by either those who support illegal immigration, or self hating white folks.

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Besides this ^^ lets talk about the hipocrisy of those who use this argument to support Mexican illegal immigrants.

They often use images like this one.

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But even if America was stolen (it wasn't), then this Also applies to Mexico and South/ central america. They don't react well when you ask them where the Aztecs and Mayan's went. That's right they lost to the spanish.


It's really hypocritical to live in America with the privileges provided by the "white man" and not give your things back to the indians.


I use the term Indian btw because the "Native" Americans are actually native to asia. America has only the natives who were born here. If that applies to some indians then they are still no more native than me.

 

[BlazeRelease]

White men DID steal American soil, and commuted genocide, then established religion etc.

But today's whites people owe them nothing, because we are new people. We aren't accountable for our ancestors actions.

Likewise, today's natives aren't entitled to their "sacred land", they never had land. Their ancestors did.

Of course, we can be nice and give them reservations, or whatever, but we don't HAVE to.

As long as people treat each other fairly and with respect, that's all that's important today.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

Also I don't see why we should support Illegal immagration at all, if you came into the country with the proper papers thats good stay, if you jumped a fence its you know against the law yet people want them to stay like wtf. Yes maybe mexico really sucks right now and they want to get away but for that we need a refugee camp not letting them in without he proper paper work.

 

[6thHokage]

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This man "discovered" America

 

[XRS]

Also I don't see why we should support Illegal immagration at all, if you came into the country with the proper papers thats good stay, if you jumped a fence its you know against the law yet people want them to stay like wtf. Yes maybe mexico really sucks right now and they want to get away but for that we need a refugee camp not letting them in without he proper paper work.

Racist detected

 

[Robot Boy]

Also I don't see why we should support Illegal immagration at all, if you came into the country with the proper papers thats good stay, if you jumped a fence its you know against the law yet people want them to stay like wtf. Yes maybe mexico really sucks right now and they want to get away but for that we need a refugee camp not letting them in without he proper paper work.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[BlazeRelease]

I don't agree with illegal immigration though. We have a process they can and should go to if they expect to be a part of America. We aren't the best but clearly we were better than what you had, so at least have the respect to allow us to make you an official citizen do we can keep order in the country and keep track of people.

Immigration laws and procedures are made for legal safety reasons. So when you decide you can bypass those laws, you are already a criminal, and threat.

However, we shouldn't deport them. We should give them the choice to become official citizens, or the choice to leave, and enforce a moderate legal punish to them for breaking the law. (Something like community service, or you know, within reasonable request).

I'm not anti-immigrants, but we should enforce a policy on immigration if some kind, it's necessary just as it is that normal citizens have a social security number etc.

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

Racist detected

Racist would be me hating on someone because of race I'm not hating on anyone, I said sign the proper paper work, that is the legal and right way to get into any country, jumping a fence to get in is against the law.

No where did I even state I hate those people for trying to get out of mexico for whatever reason (something bads happening I don't know) I said we should make refugee camps for them I still want them to have better lives but they can't be going against the law to do so and if they do it should be treated like anyone else caught breaking the law.

Thats called being fair not racist its fair for anyone to come into the country with the proper paper work, its fair to want a better life it's unfair if you can break the law and get away with it because its racist if you say other wise about it

 

[slimreaper]

White men DID steal American soil, and commuted genocide, then established religion etc.

But today's whites people owe them nothing, because we are new people. We aren't accountable for our ancestors actions.

Likewise, today's natives aren't entitled to their "sacred land", they never had land. Their ancestors did.

Of course, we can be nice and give them reservations, or whatever, but we don't HAVE to.

As long as people treat each other fairly and with respect, that's all that's important today.

Based on the laws of today no we didn't. Not to mention it isn't genocide if one side fights but loses. They didn't call them savages for nothing

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Based on the laws of today no we didn't. Not to mention it isn't genocide if one side fights but loses. They didn't call them savages for nothing

Why did they call them savages? Smh...

Well, people were there first and others came and took it from them. If that's not stealing land, I don't know what is.

Still, what land hasn't been stolen?

Why do you always make threads like these.


Why don't you stop being a p*ssy and say what you wanna say?

 

[Melanin]

Sure.

The native populous just dropped to one knee and declreaded their & their ansectors homeland someone else's. The then decided to migrate by the Hundred Thoushands to desert waste lands on foot, killing most of their children and elderly.

And don't get me started on the nice boat rides from Africa.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

That link is such idiotic legal BS.

 

[slimreaper]

Why did they call them savages? Smh...

Well, people were there first and others came and took it from them. If that's not stealing land, I don't know what is.

Still, what land hasn't been stolen?

Why do you always make threads like these.


Why don't you stop being a p*ssy and say what you wanna say?

They called them savages because they scalped people.

Read this shit

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The indians never occupied more than 3% of america's land. And by there own rules... the stronger "tribe" gets the land. The stronger was us.


What exactly is it that you think i'm afraid to say. I've made my views perfectly clear on this forum "*****"

If it's idiotic then prove it.

 

[Power Bottom]

You got to be kidding me

 

[Venomous Cobra]

steal
stēl/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: stealing
1.
take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.


Yeah, you make no sense

 

[slimreaper]

steal
stēl/Submit
verb
gerund or present participle: stealing
1.
take (another person's property) without permission or legal right and without intending to return it.


Murica was stolen, this makes no sense, if I come to a person's house and beat them up and live there as if it's mine, isn't that stealing?

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Nah

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

They called them savages because they scalped people.

Read this shit

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The indians never occupied more than 3% of america's land. And by there own rules... the stronger "tribe" gets the land. The stronger was us.


What exactly is it that you think i'm afraid to say. I've made my views perfectly clear on this forum "*****"

If it's idiotic then prove it.

When a person goes to another place, and has to kill the people living there for themselves, that's stealing, no? Why look at it in cheap legal talk instead of common sense.

You're always making threads attacking minorities and defending whites, like all we do on the base is attack whites, when we don't. You have this by definition, true racist mentality, where you believe every race is out to get yours, smh. Why are you so fixated on race, were you bullied by racists as a kid or something?

 

[slimreaper]

When a person goes to another place, and has to kill the people living there for themselves, that's stealing, no? Why look at it in cheap legal talk instead of common sense.

You're always making threads attacking minorities and defending whites, like all we do on the base is attack whites, when we don't. You have this by definition, true racist mentality, where you believe every race is out to get yours, smh. Why are you so fixated on race, were you bullied by racists as a kid or something?

That's incorrect. Today that would be wrong, but that's because we've set up laws preventing it. Why aren't the Romans viewed as if what the did happened under today's laws?

It's not wrong to come to a vast place in which only 3% of the land is being used and claim it.

The world is out to get white folks. I'm racist just as every person on this planet truly is. The difference is I know it. You and others can say you aren't and even truly believe it but it's proven in your subconscious

 

[BrillyMac]

When a person goes to another place, and has to kill the people living there for themselves, that's stealing, no? Why look at it in cheap legal talk instead of common sense.

You're always making threads attacking minorities and defending whites, like all we do on the base is attack whites, when we don't. You have this by definition, true racist mentality, where you believe every race is out to get yours, smh. Why are you so fixated on race, were you bullied by racists as a kid or something?

You're wasting Your time trying to explain this to him. The fact that he believes it wasn't stolen is enough to say that he can't be convinced it was. You literally have to force yourself to believe it wasn't stolen.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

That's incorrect. Today that would be wrong, but that's because we've set up laws preventing it. Why aren't the Romans viewed as if what the did happened under today's laws?

It's not wrong to come to a vast place in which only 3% of the land is being used and claim it.

The world is out to get white folks. I'm racist just as every person on this planet truly is. The difference is I know it. You and others can say you aren't and even truly believe it but it's proven in your subconscious

Lol, no, everyone maybe a little bit racist but you are a true racist. You act like there's a biological clock in our minds that starts making us hate another race. I'm not that stupid to think the color of our skin defines what we think.