This thread gives a very nice explanation why Naruto has lost Rikudou Sage Mode :
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. I thought that Sasuke's Rinnesharingan just like RSM was also a Rikudou power. But, if we consider that RSM dissapeared, why did Sasuke's Rinnsharingan not dissapear ?
Hagoromo personally merged the Bijuus with his chakra in Naruto and gave him the Yang Seal whereas Sasuke only got the Yin Seal, and Rikudou didn't merge his chakra with him. This tells me that the Rinnesharingan's origin lies not with the Rikudou but somewhere else. The current villains according to the spoilers are after Sasuke's Rinnesharingan. Are these attempts to complete the Demon's Triple Spiral ?
There are more than two faces on the blobs in Orochimaru's dimension. This makes it seem like Orochimaru's been doing this for ages. Could the child we knew as Orochimaru just be one of his bodies that was compatible enough to hold his soul for those decades?
There are more than two faces on the blobs in Orochimaru's dimension. This makes it seem like Orochimaru's been doing this for ages. Could the child we knew as Orochimaru just be one of his bodies that was compatible enough to hold his soul for those decades?
First take a look at how the bodies are arranged in Orochimaru's dimension.
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Then take a look at how many similar structures are through Orochimaru's dimension. This implies Orochimaru has captured many souls and switched thousands of bodies.
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This chapter was a bomber, many things in this thread came true.
It's impressive how the very first exciting mystery at the beggining of the manga (Orochimaru) is still, after 650 chapters, the biggest mystery so far. We still don't know his true intentions, origins, or his overall knowledge of the Narutoverse.
One thing that intrigues me is why was he pardoned, IMO he should be somewhere close(incarcerated) to Naruto/Sasuke to handle, by Kakashi's words he still wanders somewhere doing his experiments. In chapter 699, Kakashi stated that Sasuke was pardoned of jail time due to his contribution in undoing the MT, Oro is the biggest criminal in the series, his only contribution to the war was helping Tsunade recover and attacking Spiral. He could've also been asigned a top secret mission at Sasuke's request (what other reason for letting him roam free), and maybe Kakashi didn't know about this.
As stated in recent posts here, his influence over Yamato(Mokuton-- controlling free Bijuu?) or Spiral Zetsu is still unknown. After the war, he could have also had a closer look to Madara's body and Sasuke's+Naruto's blood, that panel was quite suggestive towards their blood.
Oh, there's also the mystery surronding Shisui's body (it was mentioned in the war arc=hint), corpses just don't dissapear like that in the Narutoverse, especially Shisui's, there were hints towards the hooded guy to be him (he could still be him). And who is everyone's favourite necrophill?
Credit to Kishi here, in just 5 chapters he spreaded a lot of mysteries(Kaguya, Sarada, Mitsuki, Akatsuki, OROCHIMARU etc.), I hope he manages better their conclusion than in the original manga. The mistake here is involving the new generation, the mysteries above(bar Sarada and maybe Mitsuki) are still the old generation's problem. Unless some power-up asspulls, the kids should stay aside, I believe, not transformed into heroes overnight.
Yeah, Sam. We have at least four of faces discernible in there but that's just what we can make out and each structure may stand for one possessed person. Is so, it's no surprised how offended Oro was when Sasuke resisted the ritual. You'd be pretty outraged too if you managed to live thousands of years like that and thought you were going to finally die.
Adriy, Orochimaru contributed by reviving the Hokages, which were completely instrumental in saving the world. One could say he is the biggest single contributor.
Anyways, with the Sharingan still being a plot mover and so many demon references, it is obvious this was planned since the beginning. Kishimoto's interview of not "feeling" like Naruto was over was because Naruto was not even nearly over. The abrupt closure of part 2 was an obvious marketing ploy by SJ and he was pressured into it. Hell, I am not even sure this is gonna close in the 10 or so chapters needed to tie into the movie...It might carry over to a new Boruto series AFTER the movie.
It's been pointed out a few times I am sure, but the way I see it, the Sharingan/Tomoes are an evil that infected the God Tree long ago and the Rinnegan is the purified power of the tree, while the Rinnesharingan is that ancient evil's power. This is what made Kaguya turn from goddess to "demon" and perhaps Sasuke's Rinnesharingan is what this demon is after.
It's been pointed out a few times I am sure, but the way I see it, the Sharingan/Tomoes are an evil that infected the God Tree long ago and the Rinnegan is the purified power of the tree, while the Rinnesharingan is that ancient evil's power. This is what made Kaguya turn from goddess to "demon" and perhaps Sasuke's Rinnesharingan is what this demon is after.
There were some big developments in 705 for which I’m going to have to write one new theory and update another. I’ll try to find time over the weekend to write the first one – I think it’s interesting but it takes some explaining and I warn you now that it gets into some obscure religious references and controversies.
For now though I thought I would pick out some of the smaller details that could have gone unnoticed.
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A lot of crucial details emerged this week. I don’t want to go over material I’ve already covered too much but it looks more and more likely that Sarada is the product of one of Orochimaru’s experiments rather than a true born daughter of Sasuke.
Sasuke is still probably the father and Karin the mother but her birth doesn’t look like it was natural.
Karin Blood
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Sasuke Blood
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What stands out to me is how much Sarada looks like Shin and his clones. Notice how Sarada has the same mouth as her brother (?)…
Sarada:
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Shin
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The Hooded Man unmasked himself and while he hasn’t been confirmed as Shisui just yet, what stood out the most was how his body has the same implants that Orochimaru pioneered so many years ago:
Hooded Man
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Danzo
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Orochimaru’s handiwork
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… this might spell that the Zetsu Army has gotten an upgrade from the Snake just as Danzo did. Hopefully we'll get to see if this pair share common roots…
Danzo Roots
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Zetsu Roots
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Another thing that really stands out about the Hooded Man is that his principal Sharingan is distinctly shaded compared to his other eyes:
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It’s not entirely clear whether this means the Hooded Man is dead and reanimated like an Edo Tensei or whether he is being controlled by another just like Obito was. It looks like Tobi might still live even though Obito is dead – this Tobi could have been the one who wanted to be made whole rather than Obito:
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Surprise attacks do not appear to be an option against this Sharingan user… useful old hag:
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I went over some old chapters and it is worth noting that Obito had the same staples holding together what remained of his body after it had been crushed by a rock and his White Zetsu replacement organs and limbs:
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Finally there is a question mark over the translation of this panel
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While Sasuke reminisces about a conversation with Naruto over growing a Zetsu army, I think what Sasuke is talking about is this conversation where Obito talks about how Kaguya used Infinite Tsukuyomi in the past to grow an army of Zetsu:
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Sasuke’s comments about the Zetsu army being much older than Madara is confirmation that Naruto will have to tackle a more ancient evil at some point in the not too distant future… which is the best confirmation we’ve seen so far that the Demon is coming.
Yeah Sam, Kishi has put a lot of actual research into his work. The entirety of the Naruto series is basically the history of Japan, starting with the war era in real history, then going on with Japan's religious history. It started with Shinto (Uchiha), then Buddhism (Senju) spread to Japan which merged into Shinto-Buddhism (Six Paths). Buddhism assimilated a lot of lore from the Indian deities and we are seeing that being added with Indra, Asura, as well as Princess Kaguya's lore being merged with their mother, Aditi as stated in my thread.
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As for the eye being more shaded than the rest...It sorta reminds me of Orochimaru when he was in his own dimension.
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Teth truly has the best theory going on right now (Sorry, Minamotorhead). With Kishimoto flat out stating he considers Orochimaru the ultimate antithesis to Naruto, I cannot see the final villain being anyone else.
White is the color which represents the White Zetsu Army. In other words, The shins are all upgraded white zet s u perhaps made from the corpses from the massacre of the Uchiha Clan?
its about Oro being the final Naruto villain. He is the "demon" who started all the pain and suffering. He was the one who told Kaguya to eat the fruit. He is a demon who has been transmigrating for many centuries.
its about Oro being the final Naruto villain. He is the "demon" who started all the pain and suffering. He was the one who told Kaguya to eat the fruit. He is a demon who has been transmigrating for many centuries.
It's a collection of theories on a theme. I didn't want to spam the forum with endless new threads on the same basic idea (Tobidara style - much as I like them… I remember Minamoto had about 20 of them lined up in a row at one stage).
Not quite. There would be fewer posts if there were less trolls, though… . The thread's been evolving since the start. Dragonor put together an index if it helps. Some of the entries are out of date now but the theory evolves as we get new information. The latest chapter talked about an evil stronger and older than Kaguya which seems to chime with the theories in this thread.
There are more than two faces on the blobs in Orochimaru's dimension. This makes it seem like Orochimaru's been doing this for ages. Could the child we knew as Orochimaru just be one of his bodies that was compatible enough to hold his soul for those decades?
Check out "Orochimaru's Lies" in the Index above. The first theory I put on this site was about the same (Snakes on a Plane). This thread is a continuation of theories I've been putting together for years (… I need to get out more).
Yeah Sam, Kishi has put a lot of actual research into his work. The entirety of the Naruto series is basically the history of Japan, starting with the war era in real history, then going on with Japan's religious history. It started with Shinto (Uchiha), then Buddhism (Senju) spread to Japan which merged into Shinto-Buddhism (Six Paths). Buddhism assimilated a lot of lore from the Indian deities and we are seeing that being added with Indra, Asura, as well as Princess Kaguya's lore being merged with their mother, Aditi as stated in my thread.
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As for the eye being more shaded than the rest...It sorta reminds me of Orochimaru when he was in his own dimension.
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Teth truly has the best theory going on right now (Sorry, Minamotorhead). With Kishimoto flat out stating he considers Orochimaru the ultimate antithesis to Naruto, I cannot see the final villain being anyone else.
Thanks, you'd like some of the other entries in the index. "Uchiha" has a lot on well the Uchiha and "A Place in the Sun" and "Royal Blood" has a lot on the Hyuuga and Uzumaki. I haven't gone into too much detail on Kaguya in this thread - since I don't consider her the Demon (I think she's probably more likely to be a previous victim of him). I've written some very simlar threads to your own on Kaguya before this thread though. I'll write a more up to date one when I get the chance (I'm in the middle of another one right now - I'll try to get it out later today / tomorrow if I get the time).
Can someone please explain to me if the "Zhou" is related to Orochimaru?? It was said that Mitsuki have "The eyes of Zhou" so I don't know if it has any correlation to Orochimaru eyes
