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and here he dies.......
Not really, Obito didn't use genjutsu on him did he? What did Sasuke and Itachi both said? You need the MS to control Kurama yet Obito and Madara are the only ones shown to use only their 3 tomoes sharingans; clearly the power of their genjutsus are stronger even if Itachi's has more variety. Obito's in his 30's while Madara was like in his mid to high 40's, their skills would be higher plus both has the hax power of Senju DNA. What is the sharingan's weakness? high speed as we learned from Lee vs Sasuke in part one and A vs Sasuke at Kage summit.
minato and his Son are Fodders without the kyuubi Chakra
damn the Uchiha are awesome , they don't need Kyuubi Chakra to be strong
they Control the kyuubi like a puppy , while minato died by the kyuubi claw
Itachi > minato
alive or edo doesn't matter for the Solo king
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Solo King? Nagato isn't in your post. How is Minato fodder when he single handily took out 1000's of Rock ninjas, made Oonoki (a powerful kage) give flee on sight orders to his ninjas, impressed high level ninjas such as Tsunade, Jiraiya and Hiruzen, cause be to Tremble upon hearing his name
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, a headstrong person such as A even stated he thought Minato couldn't be surpassed
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If you read the manga then you would know Minato didn't die from Kurama, he was already dying from using the Death Reaper Seal but still had the will power to stay alive long enough to save his son, say a few words and then seal Yang Kurama away all while staying alive from the use of Death reaper seal and being impaled.
Sasuke didn't control Kurama, Naruto was going to suppress Kurama himself when Sasuke came so it's not confirmed if he can do anything if Naruto didn't want the same thing plus that was a small portion of Kurama's chakra. Only ones who actually controlled Kurama are Madara, Hashirama, Mito (maybe cause she had the same ability as Naruto), and Obito while Naruto worked with and not control.
Minatard totally has no counter against Itachi's surperior Genjutsu at all.
FTG warps Susano'o? Susano'o is the users Chakra, its not like it cant come back in an instant. Garbage Argumant.
Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan sees through all of Minatard's movementum.
Minato cant even look into Itachi's eyes. Thats a total disadvantage.
So lemme ask this. HOW is Minatard supose to see Amaterasu coming if he cant even look at his eyes?
This is why Minato isnt on the Top 10 at all. Only Minato Fanboys say that its been proven that Minato defeats Itachi.
Im done, i just solo-ed everybody's comment.
PS: Tell me why Minato has so much trouble trying to kill a Zetsu Clone? With help too? Ctfuu
Im done
You lose Minato Fanboys :bye:
Well if you read the manga then you know the sharingan gets counter by speed, something Minato was ranked best at. Itachi is going to be busy trying to read where Minato is, just look at what Lee says
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. ever wondered why Sasuke didn't use genjutsu on A when he did Cei?
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and when he got Cei it was after Cei was distracted by Juugo's attack. Genjutsu isn't a factor when it comes to fighting a speedster as high ranking Uchihas such as Obito and Sasuke both shown in their fights with speedster. Heck, the only time we can really confirmed that A was caught by a genjutsu is when Madara put him in one and even then A was surprised he was caught but Madara's skills, speed, strength, ect are far higher than any other Uchiha.
You want to know why a edo tensei Minato who is weaker as an edo, have 1 arm, had most of his chakra absorbed by the God tree and doesn't want to kill Obito was having trouble with Zetsu? Please show some logic there. Minato is a sensor, he doesn't need to look into Itachi's eyes to attack or defend. Also looking into Sasuke's eyes for A or Obito's eyes for Minato when they were right in their faces and both shown to be skilled in genjutsu. You didn't solo anyone. You do know Susanoo is chakra but then again what do you think Kurama is? Four element seal will seal Susanoo and it was Minato who made Kurama's chakra mix with Naruto's, he doesn't need to allow that chakra to sip out. The Susanoo they use is the same one so if it's seal, what can they summon? Minato actually split Kurama into Yin and Yang halves so sealing Susanoo wouldn't be that challenging for a sealing master.
Karin >>> Minato here.
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He couldnt even sense real body, you are talking about genjutsu............
It's not about who's better, all Sensors have heighten senses compared to those who aren't sensors. Minato wasn't using his sensory ability, he was focused on saving his son and trusted Zetsu to Kakashi and Gaara. I don't see you saying Kakashi didn't see Zetsu's chakra as he went under ground, why is that? Is it because you know he has to actually active the chakra seeing ability of the Sharingan? Then why can't you understand that Minato has to have his sensor on to sense with it. Karin shown to turns her off when she was hiding from Cei and Tobirama told Hashirama he felt nothing because he wasn't kneading chakra.
Tsukuyomi cant be broken unless you have Sharingan.
You dont have to be a Rocket Scientist to know that.
That's actually a misconception, Itachi at the time (part one) made his Tsukuyomi sound unbeatable while Shippuden Itachi, who is acting like his real self is saying all jutsus have weaknesses. Sasuke didn't break Tsukuyomi with his sharingan, he activated his CM which would disrupt his chakra and break him out. Itachi would have to be close to use Tsukuyomi while Minato is a speedster and wouldn't stay in one spot. Itachi closes his eye to build up the chakra, as he does that Minato doesn't have to be in the same spot as he was before. Their's also the use of shadow clones like Kakashi did in Shippuden.
Plus you're not accounting for Itachi's illness which he uses medicine to prolong his life, MS jutsus cause him great pain that is even worst cause of his disease (Sasuke wondered how Itachi must have felt
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Obito doesnt say no eather so he should be careful for now on but he was careless.........
Maybe Minato wasn't scared of genjutsus, would you say Itachi can't be careless when fighting a genjutsu pro like Kurenai? Why not? Cause he has skills enough to handle her. Minato is stated to never make a wasted move, so why would he make one that could lose him the fight unless he was confident in his genjutsu breaking skills.
the Uchiha made the kyuubi their B!tch , they Control him through their Eyes
the Kyuubi shat on his pants when he Saw Madara + Obito Eyes
Uchiha > Kyuubi
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in the other hand the kyuubi 1 shot minato with neg diff .....
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This is a really bad way to compare people, having the ability to control Kurama doesn't make you stronger than him, Hashirama solo'ed Madara and Kurama yet said Kurama was too dangerous to let roam free. Plus both Madara and Obito dislike their Uchiha brothers so saying what they can do doesn't help the Uchihas as a whole when Obito killed the Uchihas with Itachi. And if you read the Manga then you know Minato was already dying from using the Death reaper seal but saying Kurama killed Minato only shows you don't read the manga.