The classic Minato and Itachi thing!

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Except we know Itachi isn't a sensor and we know Minato is one?
That my friend was never confirmed. Kabuto dismissed Itachi's statement by calling him a liar. Meaning Kabuto was saying "For all I know, you're lying about not being a sensor right now "
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Lol dude, stop making up sensor feats
Naruto made like 500 clones and sent them into forest, Itachi appeared at the location of the one REAL Naruto. Sensor skills? Luck? 1 in 500 chance?

We can do this all day. Itachi has a million situations that could be interpreted to have some level of sensory skills involved.

He sensed Kyuubi on the battlefield fighting , Naruto's and kyuubi's chakra havemixed overtime. It could only mean one thing, That naruto has controlled the kyuubi's chakra and is fighting with it. As he originally wanted in the first place. Not sensor skills
 
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@Owarji

Itachi clearly mentions in the fight that he was able to trace the chakra back to Kabuto. This should be a point here as well.
 

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Aren't you the one who quoted me in the first place? I am not dragging you into anything - as all of my posts within the thread have been on the factors I highlighted.

I have never said he isn't a sensor - probably made this statement once when not enough was shown - but have always stuck by the fact that he's a poor or sub-par sensor at best. I have never considered Tobirama to be a good sensor either. In fact, Minato edges him out a bit as I said earlier as he uses two fingers to locate / track ninjas, Minato does it with one.

Then I have no issue with you :)

Minato and Tobirama are great sensors, but people like Karin and Mú are exceptional.

And people have been saying he is not a sensor even after Kakashi chronicles.
 

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^ That's their problem then - NB is full of these types anyway. Minato is a tracker type sensor. That much is a fact now.
 

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So Itachi>Minato.
It's been decided.
 

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So its finally clear now.

Itachi Uchiha without a doubt defeats Minato Namikaze.

This has been so obvious but now Minato fanboys finally see.
 

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The only clear thing I see is wank post after wank post. This match up will never die down, it seems. Uchiha fans (basically the whole site) will always support the Uchiha, and Minato fans will always support Minato.
 

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Untrue. This was Karin when she sensed Sasuke:

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Minato on the other hand, was obviously engaged in a struggle because he lost KCM between the two times we saw him.

The bold is Speculation and Karinalready sensed Sasuke's depleting life force prior to your panel segment. Minato nor Karin were enduring any " " whatsoever. There is no difference between Namikaze causally standing, observing a Zetsu-infected Obito and Karin observing the events taking place at her battlefield. However, Blondie's focus was too occupied to have noticed the Kyuubi's extraction from Naruto. Even during the time Gaara took rescue Naruto, take him to Tsunade, Minato still couldn't sense anything as his focus was divided so to speak. Karin knew of Sasuke's depelting life force the moment Madara stabbed him as by the time he reached the ground she was already in tears and though her focus would have been on a spiral Zetsu mauling the Shinobi alliance with a Buddah, she was still able to sense him. Namikaze remains the inferior sensor.
 
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... is that Karin's foot? For a second there ....
 

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Every time I've seen this match-up be debated, the supporters of Itachi have the upper hand, while Minato supporters resort to calling the supporters illogical or outright fanboys.
 

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LoL at these Itachi fans. So a hokage with a knowledge of what an Uchiha can do will not avoid an eye contact. wow..just wow

Always bringing the Tobi vs Minato argument. I will ask these questions:

1. Why Tobi resorted in kidnapping Naruto instead of putting Minato in a genjutsu? He knows that Minato is an obstacle yet he did not use his genjutsu on him?

logical reason: perhaps he knows that he can't do it against Minato.

2. Why would Minato look into Tobi's eyes if he knows what an Uchiha is capable of doing?

logical reason: perhaps he knows that it's not effective against him. It can support the number 1 question

3. Can anyone tell me what the exact distance that Tsukuyomi is effective? I bet all those scans shows a distance of 10m less. I dare any Itachi fans. Please give me an accurate distance that Tsukuyomi is effective.

4. Do you honestly believe that Minato can't speed blitz Itachi with a distance shorter than 20m? Itachi did not show that a Tsukuyomi can me applied more than 20m while Minato showed how he stopped Kakashi from killing Obito with distance 100m or more.

Minato rapes Itachi hard..deal with it.
 

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Didn't someone say that when Minato threw the kunai through obito's head, his whole head, plus eye transported to the other dimension, meaning genjutsu wouldn't work. So Minato didn't need to worry about eye contract??
 

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and here he dies.......

Not really, Obito didn't use genjutsu on him did he? What did Sasuke and Itachi both said? You need the MS to control Kurama yet Obito and Madara are the only ones shown to use only their 3 tomoes sharingans; clearly the power of their genjutsus are stronger even if Itachi's has more variety. Obito's in his 30's while Madara was like in his mid to high 40's, their skills would be higher plus both has the hax power of Senju DNA. What is the sharingan's weakness? high speed as we learned from Lee vs Sasuke in part one and A vs Sasuke at Kage summit.

minato and his Son are Fodders without the kyuubi Chakra


damn the Uchiha are awesome , they don't need Kyuubi Chakra to be strong


they Control the kyuubi like a puppy , while minato died by the kyuubi claw


Itachi > minato


alive or edo doesn't matter for the Solo king



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Solo King? Nagato isn't in your post. How is Minato fodder when he single handily took out 1000's of Rock ninjas, made Oonoki (a powerful kage) give flee on sight orders to his ninjas, impressed high level ninjas such as Tsunade, Jiraiya and Hiruzen, cause be to Tremble upon hearing his name , a headstrong person such as A even stated he thought Minato couldn't be surpassed .

If you read the manga then you would know Minato didn't die from Kurama, he was already dying from using the Death Reaper Seal but still had the will power to stay alive long enough to save his son, say a few words and then seal Yang Kurama away all while staying alive from the use of Death reaper seal and being impaled.

Sasuke didn't control Kurama, Naruto was going to suppress Kurama himself when Sasuke came so it's not confirmed if he can do anything if Naruto didn't want the same thing plus that was a small portion of Kurama's chakra. Only ones who actually controlled Kurama are Madara, Hashirama, Mito (maybe cause she had the same ability as Naruto), and Obito while Naruto worked with and not control.

Minatard totally has no counter against Itachi's surperior Genjutsu at all.

FTG warps Susano'o? Susano'o is the users Chakra, its not like it cant come back in an instant. Garbage Argumant.

Itachi's Mangekyo Sharingan sees through all of Minatard's movementum.


Minato cant even look into Itachi's eyes. Thats a total disadvantage.

So lemme ask this. HOW is Minatard supose to see Amaterasu coming if he cant even look at his eyes?

This is why Minato isnt on the Top 10 at all. Only Minato Fanboys say that its been proven that Minato defeats Itachi.

Im done, i just solo-ed everybody's comment.


PS: Tell me why Minato has so much trouble trying to kill a Zetsu Clone? With help too? Ctfuu

Im done

You lose Minato Fanboys :bye:

Well if you read the manga then you know the sharingan gets counter by speed, something Minato was ranked best at. Itachi is going to be busy trying to read where Minato is, just look at what Lee says . ever wondered why Sasuke didn't use genjutsu on A when he did Cei? and when he got Cei it was after Cei was distracted by Juugo's attack. Genjutsu isn't a factor when it comes to fighting a speedster as high ranking Uchihas such as Obito and Sasuke both shown in their fights with speedster. Heck, the only time we can really confirmed that A was caught by a genjutsu is when Madara put him in one and even then A was surprised he was caught but Madara's skills, speed, strength, ect are far higher than any other Uchiha.

You want to know why a edo tensei Minato who is weaker as an edo, have 1 arm, had most of his chakra absorbed by the God tree and doesn't want to kill Obito was having trouble with Zetsu? Please show some logic there. Minato is a sensor, he doesn't need to look into Itachi's eyes to attack or defend. Also looking into Sasuke's eyes for A or Obito's eyes for Minato when they were right in their faces and both shown to be skilled in genjutsu. You didn't solo anyone. You do know Susanoo is chakra but then again what do you think Kurama is? Four element seal will seal Susanoo and it was Minato who made Kurama's chakra mix with Naruto's, he doesn't need to allow that chakra to sip out. The Susanoo they use is the same one so if it's seal, what can they summon? Minato actually split Kurama into Yin and Yang halves so sealing Susanoo wouldn't be that challenging for a sealing master.

Karin >>> Minato here.
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He couldnt even sense real body, you are talking about genjutsu............

It's not about who's better, all Sensors have heighten senses compared to those who aren't sensors. Minato wasn't using his sensory ability, he was focused on saving his son and trusted Zetsu to Kakashi and Gaara. I don't see you saying Kakashi didn't see Zetsu's chakra as he went under ground, why is that? Is it because you know he has to actually active the chakra seeing ability of the Sharingan? Then why can't you understand that Minato has to have his sensor on to sense with it. Karin shown to turns her off when she was hiding from Cei and Tobirama told Hashirama he felt nothing because he wasn't kneading chakra.

Tsukuyomi cant be broken unless you have Sharingan.

You dont have to be a Rocket Scientist to know that.

That's actually a misconception, Itachi at the time (part one) made his Tsukuyomi sound unbeatable while Shippuden Itachi, who is acting like his real self is saying all jutsus have weaknesses. Sasuke didn't break Tsukuyomi with his sharingan, he activated his CM which would disrupt his chakra and break him out. Itachi would have to be close to use Tsukuyomi while Minato is a speedster and wouldn't stay in one spot. Itachi closes his eye to build up the chakra, as he does that Minato doesn't have to be in the same spot as he was before. Their's also the use of shadow clones like Kakashi did in Shippuden.

Plus you're not accounting for Itachi's illness which he uses medicine to prolong his life, MS jutsus cause him great pain that is even worst cause of his disease (Sasuke wondered how Itachi must have felt ) and going blind which makes tracking Minato even harder.

Obito doesnt say no eather so he should be careful for now on but he was careless.........

Maybe Minato wasn't scared of genjutsus, would you say Itachi can't be careless when fighting a genjutsu pro like Kurenai? Why not? Cause he has skills enough to handle her. Minato is stated to never make a wasted move, so why would he make one that could lose him the fight unless he was confident in his genjutsu breaking skills.

the Uchiha made the kyuubi their B!tch , they Control him through their Eyes

the Kyuubi shat on his pants when he Saw Madara + Obito Eyes


Uchiha > Kyuubi



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in the other hand the kyuubi 1 shot minato with neg diff .....



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This is a really bad way to compare people, having the ability to control Kurama doesn't make you stronger than him, Hashirama solo'ed Madara and Kurama yet said Kurama was too dangerous to let roam free. Plus both Madara and Obito dislike their Uchiha brothers so saying what they can do doesn't help the Uchihas as a whole when Obito killed the Uchihas with Itachi. And if you read the Manga then you know Minato was already dying from using the Death reaper seal but saying Kurama killed Minato only shows you don't read the manga.
 

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While Itachi has always looked good

man, denial is strong, its okay its what people use as a coping mechanism, they pretend to be blind and illiterate

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do you know why itachi is no longer here?, because he reached his limit against a glasses wearing nurse and kishi decided to go easy on him and give him a break
 

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Once again, The only argument Minato fans have is that he's a hokage, and thus will know not to make eye contact.
Right. Tell that to all the geniuses, and kages that have gotten caught in genjutsu in this manga

Don't be ridiculous .
 

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man, denial is strong, its okay its what people use as a coping mechanism, they pretend to be blind and illiterate

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do you know why itachi is no longer here?, because he reached his limit against a glasses wearing nurse and kishi decided to go easy on him and give him a break

Geek in glasses this geeks Edo Madara solo'd the 5 kages will playing around with them while kabuto kicked backed lmao

Itachi didn't even want sasuke throwing shurikens at kabuto lol
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All the rest of that fight never happened it was the genjutsu of Izanami ,Itachi stated to have prepared it right here
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Then on the bottom panel it was stated that the Kinjutsu was released.
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