The Biggest Plothole Has Yet To Be Rectified.

[Pyro NB]

Why? :|

I agree with the yang chakra being one of the requirements for wood release.

 

[Nobel]

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Summary: Hashirama's yang chakra is very strong. Mokuton in essence is the KKG that the Juubi is made of. So to inherit it, one must have a very strong Yang chakra. Which Hashirama Senju possessed. (Has nothing to do with being Ashura's reincarnation).



Naruto is also his transmigrant. However, he didn't possess the Yang chakra necessary for mokuton. Neither has Ashura shown to possess such chakra. So it really has nothing to do with Ashura himself.. or being reincarnate.

how has hashiramas yang chakra anything to do with this? You only disapproved yourself, it clearly states its a genetically inherited skill.

Your logic only means that yamato needs a very strong portion of yang chakra to control hashiramas cells. He was the only hashirama clone that orochimaru succeded in creating. Though a very weak one...

It has to be a speciality only given to the descendants of ashura senju. Hagoromo,kaguya and juubi had the power to manifest wood release.

 

[Urda]

I agree with the yang chakra being one of the requirements for wood release.

Then Madara couldn't have control Wood Release.

 

[rollin]

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Summary: Hashirama's yang chakra is very strong. Mokuton in essence is the KKG that the Juubi is made of. So to inherit it, one must have a very strong Yang chakra. Which Hashirama Senju possessed. (Has nothing to do with being Ashura's reincarnation).



Naruto is also his transmigrant. However, he didn't possess the Yang chakra necessary for mokuton (Kurama's chakra that is comparable to Hashirama's, claimed by Hashirama himself, is what attracted with the Zetsu, not Ashura's chakra, not Naruto's chakra.. but Kurama's). Neither has Ashura shown to possess such chakra. So it really has nothing to do with Ashura himself.. or being reincarnate.

Naruto is an uzumaki that's why he needs kuramas full yang chakra to equal hashis and Ashura
Narutos already yang chakra mixes with kuramas making it more yang and the reason why mokuton grows from it like the zetsus,yamatos mokuton,and the wood golem that Madara used on bijuu mode naruto

That means nothing



[RED] Your opinion.

[BOLD] That's just bullshit.

I make a point you're just being ignorant of it

 

[KingHashirama]

how has hashiramas yang chakra anything to do with this? You only disapproved yourself, it clearly states its a genetically inherited skill.

Your logic only means that yamato needs a very strong portion of yang chakra to control hashiramas cells. He was the only hashirama clone that orochimaru succeded in creating. Though a very weak one...

Yamato was transplanted with Hashirama's cells. He didn't unlock it. Meaning the cells of Hashirama that possessed the power to grow/use mokuton.

Now how did I contradict myself? It is a KKG... similar to the Sharingan/Byakugan/etc.. that is unlocked with a specific type of chakra. There is a logical explanation in the manga as to how one unlocks the Sharingan.. similarly the logical explanation of unlocking Mokuton is that one possesses a very strong yang chakra, and thus able to attain Mokuton..

Naruto is an uzumaki that's why he needs kuramas full yang chakra to equal hashis and Ashura
Narutos already yang chakra mixes with kuramas making it more yang and the reason why mokuton grows from it like the zetsus,yamatos mokuton,and the wood golem that Madara used on bijuu mode naruto

Him being an uzumaki is irrelevant. If Mokuton has to do with Ashura, he'd possess it the moment Ashura's chakra entered his body. But the fact is Ashura's chakra does nothing to the people that it inherits. Naruto showed being similar to Ashura, due to Kurama's chakra... and despite having Ashura's chakra inside of him Hashirama displayed nothing similar to Ashura. Why is that? Because Ashura's chakra doesn't effect them. They have their own chakra that they are born with.

 

[Urda]

Naruto is an uzumaki that's why he needs kuramas full yang chakra to equal hashis and Ashura
Narutos already yang chakra mixes with kuramas making it more yang and the reason why mokuton grows from it like the zetsus,yamatos mokuton,and the wood golem that Madara used on bijuu mode naruto

Bro, no one is being ignorant. We are just looking at the facts. Your just spitting nonsense.

 

[Dark Sonic]

But then anyone that mastered water&earth would be able to duplicate this easly.

Its a ability given to him only, i guess thats shinobi evolution for ya.

I'm not sure anyone can master Yang release to a certain extent but Hashirama is a special case so I guess it has yet to be explained like Jashin of course. U_U

 

[Pyro NB]

Then Madara couldn't have control Wood Release.

Madara had part of Hashi in him to get rinne then had Hashi's dna enhance by kabuto when he was edo'd. He would've had enough of Hashi's essence to handle it.

 

[KingHashirama]

[RED] Your opinion.

[BOLD] That's just bullshit.

1. Not really my opinion. Simply go read about what the Senju are.

2. Not really bullshit, simply take a look at what the juubi and God tree are made of. And I would also recommend looking into what Yang chakra affects.

Yang chakra (in case you are lazy to go search it xD): based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form

How is Mokuton made?: "turns chakra into the origin of life".

 

[Nobel]

Yamato was transplanted with Hashirama's cells. He didn't unlock it. Meaning the cells of Hashirama that possessed the power to grow/use mokuton.

Now how did I contradict myself? It is a KKG... similar to the Sharingan/Byakugan/etc.. that is unlocked with a specific type of chakra. There is a logical explanation in the manga as to how one unlocks the Sharingan.. similarly the logical explanation of unlocking Mokuton is that one possesses a very strong yang chakra, and thus able to attain Mokuton..

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What are you even talking about? Its difficult to explain when you dont read my post. I obviously know that yamato was implanted with the
cells of hashirama. And then again for that "specific" part i dont even....

You contradict yourself in the most ridiculous ways, first you state that you need a very strong yang chakra then a specific one? For god's sake be more decisive while you are at it.

 

[-immortal-]

What about kaguy's husband :tea:

 

[Urda]

Madara had part of Hashi in him to get rinne then had Hashi's dna enhance by kabuto when he was edo'd. He would've had enough of Hashi's essence to handle it.

Yang chakra is not a requirement to achieve Wood Release. Danzo for example had Hashirama's cell implanted him. He could barely control Hashirama's cells.

And when they kept explaining Yang chakra that further complicated things.

1. Not really my opinion. Simply go read about what the Senju are.

2. Not really bullshit, simply take a look at what the juubi and God tree are made of. And I would also recommend looking into what Yang chakra affects.

Yang chakra (in case you are lazy to go search it xD): based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form

How is Mokuton made?: "turns chakra into the origin of life".

These was the question the OP asked:

We know nothing about it, why Hashi was the only one to have it, how to unlock it, nothing. Kishi, where is this explanation!!?

All was explain in the Manga/Databook.

[RED] You are simply talking about the origins of Hashirama's blood itself. Your just theorising. None of that was mention in the Manga/Databook.

 

[KingHashirama]

You contradict yourself in the most ridiculous ways, first you state that you need a very strong yang chakra then a specific one? For god's sake be more decisive while you are at it.

@Bold, so feel free to show me where I stated that. It simply means Hashirama was born with the strongest Yang chakra .. not that hard to get. Unlike Naruto who currently possesses the Yang chakra.. but got it from the Rikudou. Hashirama being born with that strong of a yang chakra, led to the mutation.

What I stated was, it had nothing to do with Ashura.. so no clue how that is a contradiction. Unless you're able to showcase where Ashura was stated to have the strongest Yang chakra.. because I can't. Yang chakra is the chakra that gives "life".

[RED] You are simply talking about the origins of Hashirama's blood itself. Your just theorising. None of that was mention in the Manga/Databook.

The OP asked for an explanation from the manga. What I've stated is from the manga.

 

[Nobel]

@Bold, so feel free to show me where I stated that.

Summary: Hashirama's yang chakra is very strong. Mokuton in essence is the KKG that the Juubi is made of. So to inherit it, one must have a very strong Yang chakra. Which Hashirama Senju possessed. (Has nothing to do with being Ashura's reincarnation).

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[Pyro NB]

Yang chakra is not a requirement to achieve Wood Release. Danzo for example had Hashirama's cell implanted him.

And when they kept explaining Yang chakra that futher complicated things.




These was the question the OP asked:




All was explain in the Manga/Databook.

[RED] You are simply talking about the origins of Hashirama's blood itself. Your just theorising. None of that was mention in the Manga/Databook.

While Danzo did have Hashi arm that was an imperfect creation compared to the others shown in NV. In reality, though this thread is going to become a religious/race/political type because you can honestly argue both sides if one wanted and at the end of the day all it comes down to is theories.

 

[rollin]

Bro, no one is being ignorant. We are just looking at the facts. Your just spitting nonsense.

No I've been spitting facts
So whats the reason behind when naruto gets filled with life-force,starts to resemble ashura, to cause hashis mokuton to grow?
Don't you think strong life-force is a major component of mokuton?
Hashi obviously has a yang chakra and tons of life-force being ashuras reincarnate.uzumakis heal quick because of their life-force and hashi heals automatically. He's not watered down like uzumakis.
What is so hard to believe that hashis(ashuras yang)chakra combined with water and earth makes mokuton

 

[KingHashirama]

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??????

You should really apply that picture to yourself.. considering you have a hard time understanding simple english.. And if you can't understand simple english, then I'm not the guy you should be talking to.

So tell me how does one possessing a very strong yang chakra, have anything to do with being Ashura's descendant.

Hashirama's yang chakra =/= Ashura's
Naruto's yang chakra =/= Ashura's

So feel free to ****ing tell me how I contradicted myself.

 

[Nobel]

You should really apply that picture to yourself.. considering you have a hard time understanding simple english.. And if you can't understand simple english, then I'm not the guy you should be talking to.

So tell me how does one possessing a very strong yang chakra, have anything to do with being Ashura's descendant.

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YOU are complaining about my understanding of the english language? Sorry forgive me for underrating your stupidity but i dont think any picture in this universe would describe your presence.

Did you even read naruto? Funny i didnt think the remaining seniors on NB lacked this much brain cells. Ashuras soul/chakra itself is inherited with a very strong life force, in other words yang chakra. Come on this manga is not a lecture of quantum physics . And i am specifically talking about hashirama.

 

[rollin]

Yang chakra is not a requirement to achieve Wood Release. Danzo for example had Hashirama's cell implanted him. He could barely control Hashirama's cells.

And when they kept explaining Yang chakra that further complicated things.




These was the question the OP asked:




All was explain in the Manga/Databook.

[RED] You are simply talking about the origins of Hashirama's blood itself. Your just theorising. None of that was mention in the Manga/Databook.

the reason why danzo got hashi's cells was to boost his physical energies

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physical energies is the basis of yang

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[Remedy]

Hashirama's KKG is that of the God Tree itself, abilities and all (binding people, absorbing chakra, blooming deadly flowers etc.) Just a slightly condensed version.