The 5 kages failed

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well they are not dead yet, that mean they are not fail ..
 

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did u notice MAdara is
edo now
infinite chakra
cant die have
EMs
susano
rinnegan have
first hokage power also..!!!
those two were most feared shinobi the world...!!! they are legend...!!!! five Kages are doing the best they can...u cant state them as weak...just cause they are finding it hard to keep up...!!!
in short NO u FAILEd to understand

Im with you :)..
 

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The battle will end when Itachi ends the Edo Tensei - it will not end by kages beating Madara - they'll only hope to last.

But even if he kills kabuto he cant stop the edo, which is the same reason why itachi can still run around. Kabuto can't end edo, not even if he is killed.
 

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Listein here, I,ve read all above this and ima have to agree with some of you that current Kages all suck compared to the former ones, espishally the Hokage, Tsunade...Jiraya would have been more fit to become Kage maybe even Kakashi would be a better kage than Tsunade, all Tsunade can do is heal people and has super strength..SAKURA COULD TAKE OVER TSUNADES PLACE IF SHE WANTED TOO. anyways, MADARA is just tooo powerful and with the rinnegan, 1st kages powers, sussano, and giant fire balls...the Kages are still standing so ill give it up to them but how much longer can they last? it seems like the KAges are on the defensive side at the moment and Madara is shooting all the attackts at them with his unlimited chakra. who thinks it would be interesting if one of the Kages died?....
 

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Sasuke and Itachi are nothing compared to the kages so stop babbling. The kages will surely defeat madara alone (i Hope) and besides sasuke has naruto to fight. Any battle field he goes to he will be defeated it is his fate.

Do u know what u are talking?sasuke with ems could take every kage 1 on 1 even Itachi, what can tsunade do to both of em,even kabuto on part 1 beated her,what mizukage can do?madara is beating them susano'o-katon(wich are uchiha techs) and mokuton,he is beating 5 at the same time, so dont underate Itachi and Sasuke lol U_U
 
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Everyone has a weakness , even Madara , just a matter of time when Kishi pops us with the weakness.

Also Madara is not a type to fight persons who dont put up a challange or cant fight back anymore.

He has Uchiha Pride and will fight only the strongest.

Same attributes that Vegeta and Kenpachi have lol.
 

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This thread is dumb first of all...but anyway...

I don't know how you can say the 5 Kages are the weakest. All the other Kages are sealed, how does that make them stronger?

Let's see, Naruto basically one shotted Muu, ALONE. No, he DID NOT have help from Gaara or Oonoki, ok maybe Gaara used the sand to give Naruto footing to get higher, but that's it. He came in and raped Muu. Yes Muu split off, but that doesn't mean shit. Now the split off part of Muu is at half power, so he basically can't do anything anymore. Plus, it took that split off version a hell of a long time to regenerate, just from Naruto's one hit. Kabuto said this himself.

Yes the 3rd Raikage was giving everyone trouble, but Naruto also came in and basically one shot'd him also. I don't care wtf you say, he used his smarts and SM Rasengan to disable the Raikage and have him sealed. Plus, if he wasn't an Edo, Naruto's Rasenshuriken would have been enough also.

The 2nd Mizukage was probably the hardest one to defeat, but Gaara basically took him out by himself also. Gaara also took his father out to, who was a Kage. Yes it was not as spectacular, but he did seal him.

So Gaara > 4th Kazekage, it seems Gaara can now use Magnet Release, like his father, since he was able to control his father's gold. The only way I can see this being possible is if he had that release. So he probably can beat the 3rd Kazekage also. Hell is Sakura can beat the 3rd Kazekage puppet, I am sure as hell Gaara can beat him, since Sakura is worthless.

Oonoki was going head to head with Edo Muu, and his old old age. And he seemed to be holding his own, so how can you say he isn't stronger than Muu? If Muu didn't rape him right away, at Oonoki's old age, with his immortal Edo body, I would say Oonoki is stronger.

A is most likely at least as strong as his father, the 3rd Raikage. He may not have the stronger sword or shield like him, but he definitely has something similar to it. He has the same type of lightning body cloak as the 3rd, and he can most likely enhance his punches with the same lightning cloak around his hand the 3rd used. Plus he was able to go through the teleport jutsu his assistant did without being damaged at all. Something the assistant said only the 3rd Raikage can do. Plus he would have beat the hell out of Sasuke if Gaara didn't stop him.

Mizukage...well I have no idea, but she does have TWO Kekkai Genkei's or whatever, which I don't think anyone else can do. She also was about to kill Sasuke, and her combo attack with A against Edo Madara was good.

As for Tsunade...well I just don't know. On one hand she doesn't really do anything. But on the other, she must have an epic amount of chakra, since she did save the ENTIRE ****ING village from Pain's Shinra Tensei, yes she went into a coma soon afterwards, but she didn't completely run out of chakra doing that, which would obviously mean she has a TON of chakra. Think about it, she poured her chakra into EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the ENTIRE village, to save them. Do you know how much chakra that must take? She must have some jutsu up her sleeve. The village wouldn't have appointed her Hokage if she wasn't the strongest ninja in the village at the time, so she obviously has more in her repertoire than just healing and super punches, otherwise she wouldn't be Hokage. She is a god damn SENJU after all, and granddaughter of the strongest ninja ever(besides Sage obviously). She also survived the teleport jutsu of A's assistant, when she doesn't have the thick skin or lightning armor of the 3rd or 4th Raikage, so that says something also. Yeah she had some bleeding, but she also kicked Madara right away, so she obviously wasn't seriously injured. She went in with NOTHING protecting her, even when the assistant said it would tear normal people's flesh and bone, and came out with very minor injuries. She's not called a Sannin for nothing.

We have absolutely no idea what has happened in the fight between Madara and the 5 Kages, we saw very very little. Mokuton is a very strong jutsu, it was what made Hashirama so strong, and it seems Madara can use it just as well as he could. We don't know the true strength of it yet, yes Yamato can use Mokuton, but his version is VERY VERY different from Hashirama's. Yamato can't make tree's, or flowers, all he can do with it is make wood. It's an incomplete version, most likely because he ISN'T a Senju, and doesn't have the Sage's "Body". Which is what seems to make complete Mokuton powerful. Think about it, Yamato's Mokuton gets better when Naruto is around in KM, because Naruto has the life force around him, aka the "Body". Now imagine Madara having BOTH the Sage's power now. His Mokuton is on a completely different level, and yet the Kages aren't dead yet. For ****'s sake, Oonoki didn't die with two METEOR'S being dropped on his HEAD, and he's weak? Would any of the other Kage's survived that? The only other way I see stopping that is using Sage Mode, since you can lift abnormal amounts of weight with it activate by using the Nature Chakra.

They managed to damage Madara, which is a feat in and of itself. The Jinton completely ****ed up most of Madara's armor, and obviously took his arm off, well at least his shoulder, we don't know if the arm regenerated before that or not. And to the poster saying that his armor got ****ed up because of Hashirama's face coming out? What the **** are you smoking? What the **** does that even MEAN? What do you think his face all of a sudden shot out of his armor, blowing a big hole through it and damaging his arm? I really have no idea what the hell you mean, your grammar is terrible. You said, and I quote, "cant u read to the post before?his chunk got out because the hashirama's head gon out of one part of chest.still they fail." THAT MAKES NO SENSE, AT ALL. His "chunk" didn't get out because Hashirama's head "gon out of one part of chest." The head is just SITTING THERE, DOING NOTHING. IT DOESN'T MOVE. Jesus Christ my head hurts from reading that.
 
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NEW > OLD its always been that away aside from hashirama and maybe madara since he's been rinnehaxed
 

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First post guys so bare with me here.

But I honestly think it's one of the first rules in ninja combat to analyze your opponents weaknesses and strengths.

Off of that:

Madura and the first Hokage have been long dead and their strengths and abilities have only been described through legends.

With the Edo Tensei, a LOT of wild cards have been played because of Kabuto.

This is NOT the first rodeo for the 5 kages. And up until this point they have been fighting enemies, extremely powerful may I mind you, that they know or are aware of their abilities.

Off of that then:

Don't you think that it is wise for them to know exactly the limits and abilities Madura has? Yes they did charge in earlier to test the waters per say, but I truly doubt the 5 kages were doing that with hopes to win, but more as a learning exercise.

Surviving each attack from Madura is a feat in itself and also a way to get intel and plan their attacks accordingly.


I DO agree that we haven't seen much from the Hokage and the Mizukage, but I think that is a writing choice in order for us to see them in action later.

Any thoughts on what I said, I'm happy to hear. Just keep it respectable to the manga.
 

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i know tsunade is the weakest hokage


I think muu > oonoki

the others idk

Third kazekage was said to be significantly stronger than the other previous kages... idk if gaara surpassed him.. i doubt it

My rep level for a legendary ninja like Uchiha Madara is over 9000! :drive:
 

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IDIOTS ! We just came back into the fight. How do we know? And to make yourselves sound even more stupid Madara is a IWR, so he's gonna regenerate while they continue to thrive of chakra. Thusforth didn't we all see the 5-Kage come up with a great plan that even broke through Susanoo. Think before you speak please ! They're not weak, They're just running out of chakra, They're fight madara you know !
 
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Soon Kishi would put the weakness...................................................................well he better do it
 

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give them time but Madara is riddiclously strong although he is completed by kabuto and oonki seems to be doing some damage...
 

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also remeber this fight has been going on since one chapter before naruto vs tobi started and gaara and oonoki have been fighting even longer then that they are tired U_U
 

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also they are weak? remeber because of plot no jutsu by the end of this madara will have been sealed and teh five kage will be the ones who did it :|
 

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whoa they're facing madara and hashirama in one body if it weren't for being an edo madara could be fatally injured now after that dust jutsu I agree that they're the weakest though compared to the other kagesxd
 

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weakest group pages and the worst is tsunade
 
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