[Theory] That Jutsu!

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if everyone is as strong as they look naruto the nine tails just got way too overpowered he just split his power with the whole damn shinobi alliance that bull **** they should be alot less strong

 

[thegame]

Possibly. But nobody ever controlled Kuramas chakra to this extent. Even Shikaku seemed to not know of this ability, till Kakashi told him. It seems doubtful that it was actual the ability to hand it out to allies. I see it more, to just be able to control the fox power on your own to the 9th tail. I doubt Minato foresaw a fight with the Juubi. How would he even know.. In the end it is just guessing, but Kurama did suggest something with his thoughts, yet it may just be the reference to the 2 suns, yet again.

 

[Meowazziel]

@meownverse i hope that the answer is revealed soon

I hope so too .
Than people can come back to this thread for a thanks or Ill come back if it aint true for some peck and feathers xd.

Very nice indeed! I think you're right! Good job mate!

The chakra exchange thing you explained is perfect

Thanks.

Possibly. But nobody ever controlled Kuramas chakra to this extent. Even Shikaku seemed to not know of this ability, till Kakashi told him. It seems doubtful that it was actual the ability to hand it out to allies. I see it more, to just be able to control the fox power on your own to the 9th tail. I doubt Minato foresaw a fight with the Juubi. How would he even know.. In the end it is just guessing, but Kurama did suggest something with his thoughts, yet it may just be the reference to the 2 suns, yet again.

Minato was able to do what Naruto does, only on a lower scale and lower lvl (not with Kurama's chakra though).
It is in the second link of the thread and in the edit in the first post of the thread, with the questions and answers.

Minato might not have known the threat would be the Juubi, but he foresaw a great threat as he said himself, after the battle with Obito (as masked man). He knew a special power would be required to face and stop such a threat.
That is why he gave the tools for this to Naruto and entrusted him with that mission.

if everyone is as strong as they look naruto the nine tails just got way too overpowered he just split his power with the whole damn shinobi alliance that bull **** they should be alot less strong

Well Naruto his power is obviously still stronger than what he shares.

 

[~Zonta~]

If you are referring to the power then I might go with but if you are referring to "That Jutsu" then I have to differ on this one "That Jutsu" is Flying thunder god (FTG) IMO....
Though as always its nice to read your theory.. good one......

 

[Meowazziel]

If you are referring to the power then I might go with but if you are referring to "That Jutsu" then I have to differ on this one "That Jutsu" is Flying thunder god (FTG) IMO....
Though as always its nice to read your theory.. good one......

Thanks.

Minato wanted Naruto to complete something. I am referring to that something. If you want to call it that power, that jutsu, that technique, that ability, that thing, that whatever, i dont mind what the name is .

Maybe it is the FTG, but why do they go all mysterious about it and not just call it FTG?
Jiraiya couldnt do FTG, otherwise he would have used it vs Nagato, so how did they teach it to Naruto in their training?
The only ones who are capable of using FTG are Genma and 2 others, who are Minato his guards and who can only do it together.
They were not there in Naruto his 3 years of training with Jiraiya I guess.

Naruto his speed atm is so insane, its close to Minato with FTG. FTG could be nice still to teleport other people with though, who might not be able to handle Naruto's speed(Naruto holding them for example) and for super long range distances. On close range, Naruto's speed seems enough though.But who knows, maybe Naruto brings FTG to a whole new lvl.

Basically the thing in this thread, is a certain question.
What Minato wants Naruto to complete and what Jiraiya mentions as ''That jutsu'', are they 2 different things, or the same thing?
I think that is the biggest discussion.
I believe Jiraiya helped Naruto in one of the steps, up to completing ''That jutsu''. One of the starting steps was gaining control of Kurama's chakra. The whole talk with the key scroll frog and that Minato left they key for Naruto to control Kurama, makes me feel Jiraiya and Minato mean the same thing.

Funny sig with the ramen btw .

 

[~Zonta~]

Thanks.

Minato wanted Naruto to complete something. I am referring to that something. If you want to call it that power, that jutsu, that technique, that ability, that thing, that whatever, i dont mind what the name is .

Maybe it is the FTG, but why do they go all mysterious about it and not just call it FTG?
Jiraiya couldnt do FTG, otherwise he would have used it vs Nagato, so how did they teach it to Naruto in their training?
The only ones who are capable of using FTG are Genma and 2 others, who are Minato his guards and who can only do it together.
They were not there in Naruto his 3 years of training with Jiraiya I guess.

Naruto his speed atm is so insane, its close to Minato with FTG. FTG could be nice still to teleport other people with though, who might not be able to handle Naruto's speed(Naruto holding them for example) and for super long range distances. On close range, Naruto's speed seems enough though.But who knows, maybe Naruto brings FTG to a whole new lvl.

Basically the thing in this thread, is a certain question.
What Minato wants Naruto to complete and what Jiraiya mentions as ''That jutsu'', are they 2 different things, or the same thing?
I think that is the biggest discussion.
I believe Jiraiya helped Naruto in one of the steps, up to completing ''That jutsu''. One of the starting steps was gaining control of Kurama's chakra. The whole talk with the key scroll frog and that Minato left they key for Naruto to control Kurama, makes me feel Jiraiya and Minato mean the same thing.

Funny sig with the ramen btw .

It just might be my opinion though but I am sure Minato wanted to gain control of the kyubbi and use its power to save the world from masked man who he called Harbinger of disaster and considered naurto as child of prophecy/destiny a Jinchuuriki who change the future as here

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Jiraya was trying to hand over to Naruto the 4th Hokage trade mark jutsu apart from rasengan which is Flying thunder god. Its not shown in Manga but you can see that as flashback in naruto anime episode 221 during key storage.... anime shows ::-
Jiraya is training 12 year naruto and says "Its a jutsu that 4th hakage left solely for you its his legacy to you and in order to that you go through chakra control training i.e Kyubbi's chakra"

More over here I can give you a reference to the manga chapter were Gerotora tells Naruto this will give access to Kyubbi chakra and will be ticket to perfecting that jutsu in

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Plus when Tsunade wanted to enter the battlefield she was given a option to use the FTG by the 4th hokage squad i.e Genma's team but she refused to use it and said to save it for Naruto here you can find it here

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Also Genma mentioned to Miu that FTG needed all three them since it uses lot of chakra here you can find it here

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.. which helps to support the fact that large amount of chakra was needed to perform it and here you can when he used it to teleport with kyubbi he was almost drained here

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So Minato wanted Naruto to gain control over Ninetails and Master the Flying thunder god Jutsu which was left by him as his legacy........:ghehe:

 

[Meowazziel]

@Swapnil5843

Both ''transforming and sharing Kurama chakra'' and ''the FTG'', are ways to use Kurama's chakra to battle the threat/Harbringer of Disaster.

You say ''That jutsu'' is FTG. But how would Jiraiya teach it to Naruto?
He said ''dont use that jutsu''. Jiraiya cant use the jutsu right, so who taught naruto up to the point that he needed to be warned not to use it?

I just wonder, if it is FTG only, why Jiraiya didnt just call it by name. It wouldnt harm anything or anyone. I can imagine he wouldnt call Kyuubi chakra control training by name, since it was suppose to be a secret that Naruto is a Jinc. Referring to it by a special name, makes sense.

Maybe he should combine them.
Naruto can match everyone's chakra signature right now right?
Maybe he could boost FTG up to the lvl, that the doesnt need a Kunai, he would only need to teleport from chakra to chakra. Maybe teleporting to plants, chakra in the air, in the rocks, the water, everywhere. With sage mode added to it, he can sense any type of chakra and handle any type of chakra. He could go anywhere .
Would be super overpowered though, since how would you hit him?

 

[~Zonta~]

@Swapnil5843

Both ''transforming and sharing Kurama chakra'' and ''the FTG'', are ways to use Kurama's chakra to battle the threat/Harbringer of Disaster.

You say ''That jutsu'' is FTG. But how would Jiraiya teach it to Naruto?
He said ''dont use that jutsu''. Jiraiya cant use the jutsu right, so who taught naruto up to the point that he needed to be warned not to use it?

I just wonder, if it is FTG only, why Jiraiya didnt just call it by name. It wouldnt harm anything or anyone. I can imagine he wouldnt call Kyuubi chakra control training by name, since it was suppose to be a secret that Naruto is a Jinc. Referring to it by a special name, makes sense.

Maybe he should combine them.
Naruto can match everyone's chakra signature right now right?
Maybe he could boost FTG up to the lvl, that the doesnt need a Kunai, he would only need to teleport from chakra to chakra. Maybe teleporting to plants, chakra in the air, in the rocks, the water, everywhere. With sage mode added to it, he can sense any type of chakra and handle any type of chakra. He could go anywhere .
Would be super overpowered though, since how would you hit him?

yeah as you say both sharing chakra and FTG are ways to use Kuruma's chakra in order to fight in battle.....

Jiraya said Naruto not use that Jutsu since since he was not able to supress the Kurma at that time and he lost control. Naruto needed Kuruma's chakra to use it IMO but it backfired during the training and Naruto went to 4-tails cloak mode and Injured Jiraya badly giving him scar on his chest....

I guess if you go through anime episode 221 of Naruto Shippuden it will be all clear and I do request you to go through it once....

May it was due to being a Jinchuuriki or may Jiraya wanted to hide Naruto's legacy he didn't say but did say he will train naruto to gain mastery over the ninetails chakra control......

If he master FTG I think he will be go toe-to-toe with edo madara especially all his other techniques like fire release, meteors ec