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more doesnt mean stronger, dont be daft, and your size comparison is flawed as you cant even see it clearly. he made those last two rasenshurinkens with his bijju avatar and they were amplified with all the senjutsu that was available. the sheer scale of the impact of it is far above those 6 tbbfrs he used against those cts as the manga shows, based on scaling those two last attacks are the strongest he ever used.
 

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The awkward moment when Madara with the help of Obito and a Juubi couldn't beat KCM Naruto.
 

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One on top looks bigger. Especially since all the angles showcasing the bottom one is flat out horrible.

So an explosion covering all the sky around the VotE (even Kakashi and Sakura sensed it), who postponed all dark clouds, and created lightnings and storms is smaller than the other shit ?

My lord Jesus, forgive him !
 

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And here I thought NB was running out of ways to "amaze" me.
 

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The explosion from the 6 TBBRS was much bigger , again just look at the scans lol.

And in naruto shippuden case bigger = stronger you telling me a mini tbb from bm naruto is stronger than the actuall full TBB?

Post scans or i wont take u serious simple as that, we can agree to disagree but like i said i only go by the manga i keep it simple.
 

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The explosion from the 6 TBBRS was much bigger , again just look at the scans lol.

And in naruto shippidun case bigger = stronger you telling me a mini tbb from bm naruto is stronger than the actuall full TBB?

Post scans or i wont take u serious simple as that, we can agree to disagree but like i said i only go by the manga i keep it simple.

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So an explosion covering all the sky around the VotE (even Kakashi and Sakura sensed it), who postponed all dark clouds, and created lightnings and storms is smaller than the other shit ?

My lord Jesus, forgive him !

A)Vote isn't big. It called valley of the end for a reason. The explosion of one tsbrs dwarfed multiple mountain ranges.
B)they weren't far from kakashi and sakura.
C) That explosion isn't only naruto's but sasuke's as well.

Did you see the curvature of the earth in any of the scans showcasing the explosion from I.A./Naruto's attack?
Nope. It was always shots from ground level.
 

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I think, just stop comparing TBB with TBB, It doesn't make sense.

I ask back, what actually OP tried to seek here.

But I found nothing, I knew he want to seek a proof of how Indra Arrow is weaker than Naruto's 6 TBB. And then use it in Madara vs Sasuke.

But the point OP unable to grasp here is, the battle between Sasuke and Naruto cant be determinants to Sasuke vs Madara battle.

Winning a battle is not just about who can overpower the attack between both side (exp: Kamehameha vs Kamehameha)everytime.

Gohan win over Cell is just from sheer punch that make cell spit out no. 17 and 18 and he goes suicide.

Goku win over Piccolo in martial art tournement by using some strategy by hitting Piccolo with his head and Piccolo out of the ring and loss the match, Goku is severly injured at that time.

Kaguya got seal without any clash of two attacks.

But with this debate, which attack had more power than the other is not making sense to me. Its not like Madara out of option or need to clash his attack with Indra Arrow everytime.

Its like peoples not having any clue about fight/battle, you'll like doesn't know what is 'strategy in battle' mean.

This is Naruto guys, about ninja and strategy not about who got most powerful power or attack that pack with powerful punch.

It seem like you all are becoming DBZ fans already. SMH
 
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A)Vote isn't big. It called valley of the end for a reason. The explosion of one tsbrs dwarfed multiple mountain ranges.
B)they weren't far from kakashi and sakura.
C) That explosion isn't only naruto's but sasuke's as well.

Did you see the curvature of the earth in any of the scans showcasing the explosion from I.A./Naruto's attack?
Nope. It was always shots from ground level.

You're trolling too... ok ok
 

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I think, just stop comparing TBB with TBB, It doesn't make sense.

I ask back, what actually OP tried to seek here.

But I found nothing, I knew he want to seek a proof of how Indra Arrow is weaker than Naruto's 6 TBB. And then use it in Madara vs Sasuke.

But the point OP unable to grasp here is, the battle between Sasuke and Naruto cant be determinants to Sasuke vs Madara battle.

Winning a battle is not just about who can overpower the attack between both side (exp: Kamehameha vs Kamehameha)everytime.

Gohan win over Cell is just from sheer punch that make cell spit out no. 17 and 18 and he goes suicide.

Goku win over Piccolo in martial art tournement by using some strategy by hitting Piccolo with his head and Piccolo out of the ring and loss the match, Goku is severly injured at that time.

Kaguya got seal without any clash of two attacks.

But with this debate, which attack had more power than the other is not making sense to me. Its not like Madara out of option or need to clash his attack with Indra Arrow everytime.

Its like peoples not having any clue about fight/battle, you'll like doesn't know what is 'strategy in battle' mean.

This is Naruto guys, about ninja and strategy not about who got most powerful power or attack that pack with powerful punch.

It seem like you all are becoming DBZ fans already. SMH

I dont see ur point, im not talking about madara, the thread is not about madara and ilce DBZ theres nothing wrong with that.
 

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I dont see ur point, im not talking about madara, the thread is not about madara and ilce DBZ theres nothing wrong with that.

Oh, like that. This is not about Madara. I thought this thread is related to your Madara fight with Sasuke thread

OK, I'm sorry OP, you can continue to prove them wrong.
 

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At Uchiha Senju's request.

you realize naruto put more effort in to stopping madara's CT than Sasuke's Indra's arrow.


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naruto vs Madara's CT

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EDIT : look at the size difference the TBBRS used against madara were much bigger as big as sasuke's entire PS


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now look at the ones used against sasuke. much smaller barely bigger than kurama's hand.
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This entire thread rests on one assumption. That the ones used against Madara's CT were the size of Sasuke's PS. What the OP isn't taking into consideration is perspective. Perspective messes up with perception, and this image clearly is portraying the TBBRS as being closer to the "camera" if you will.

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What supports this? Simple. We see the TBBRS when they're close to Naruto when activated in the same page.

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The actual size of the TBBRS is only somewhat bigger than Naruto's height if at all. Ransenshurikens can expand mid flight, but they don't have the characteristic sphere, and only becomes a blast, unlike what happened to Madara's CTs.

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Compare this to the TBBRS's usage.

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It's actually not a blast, but rather, a disintegration sphere like Obito's TSB expansion. The proof for this is that the meteors were falling into them. If it was an explosion, and it contained enough force to obliterate them completely, then they'd be blown away, but they were not shown to. Therefore, this is, like FRS, a sphere that attack everything touching it. Therefore, Naruto was not using the expansion method of RS. This makes it a perspective issue.


Since the TBBRS he used against the CTs were only the size of his height, it's drastically smaller than the one he used against Sasuke. Here's Naruto's height compared to his Kurama avatar.

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In the second pic, if you look very closely near Kurama's ear, you can see a small blur that's probably Naruto. To be larger than Kurama's hand, means that it's much bigger than Naruto, making it much bigger than the CT TBBRS.

Naruto's so small, he's not even visible when he preps TBBRS.

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In addition, Naruto had RSM Kurama aborbe more energy than he can stand. That alone, means that the energy behind Naruto's VOTE2 Attack is greater than anything he unleashed in the war.


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At Uchiha Senju's request.




This entire thread rests on one assumption. That the ones used against Madara's CT were the size of Sasuke's PS. What the OP isn't taking into consideration is perspective. Perspective messes up with perception, and this image clearly is portraying the TBBRS as being closer to the "camera" if you will.

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What supports this? Simple. We see the TBBRS when they're close to Naruto when activated in the same page.

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The actual size of the TBBRS is only somewhat bigger than Naruto's height if at all. Ransenshurikens can expand mid flight, but they don't have the characteristic sphere, and only becomes a blast, unlike what happened to Madara's CTs.

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Compare this to the TBBRS's usage.

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It's actually not a blast, but rather, a disintegration sphere like Obito's TSB expansion. The proof for this is that the meteors were falling into them. If it was an explosion, and it contained enough force to obliterate them completely, then they'd be blown away, but they were not shown to. Therefore, this is, like FRS, a sphere that attack everything touching it. Therefore, Naruto was not using the expansion method of RS. This makes it a perspective issue.


Since the TBBRS he used against the CTs were only the size of his height, it's drastically smaller than the one he used against Sasuke. Here's Naruto's height compared to his Kurama avatar.

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In the second pic, if you look very closely near Kurama's ear, you can see a small blur that's probably Naruto. To be larger than Kurama's hand, means that it's much bigger than Naruto, making it much bigger than the CT TBBRS.

Naruto's so small, he's not even visible when he preps TBBRS.

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In addition, Naruto had RSM Kurama aborbe more energy than he can stand. That alone, means that the energy behind Naruto's VOTE2 Attack is greater than anything he unleashed in the war.


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does the op realises the tsb's r closer to while the PS is flying down in background,If not God help ND
 
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