And sharia promotes killing for apostasy
No, Apostasy isn't punished with death, already went over this with, so I'm not gonna bother regurgitating the same things when you just ignore them
So what? Don't commit adultery. Simple as that.
Homosexuality is a sin, so of course that will be the punishment for people who choose to disobey. Either now or later. It's nothing more than over-glorified kink, and like all kinks, it's something that is taught to people from those who are sexual deviants.
And I disagree with you about scholars not shaping Islam. They are essential part of Islam as an ideology as they are it's leaders.
Your opinion doesn't matter and makes 0 sense. Scholars "shaping Islam" isn't even a permissible thing, as people are not allowed to add innovations to the religion, so scholars changing rules and laws in Islam already isn't a thing. As I already said, there are scholars that permit and advocate for several things that are not allowed in real Islam, such as interest, gay marriage, beating wives, and death for apostasy.
Prophet Muhammad is the one and only leader, he himself said that the religion was complete during his Hajj speech, so any innovations that people bring or will bring after that isn't part of Islam :lol
The religion is based on what man wrote, so it can be customized by man.
Not gonna argue this point, but whether you believe it was a man or God that sent down a religion (be it Islam, Judaism, Zoroastrianism, or Jainism), customizing a religion isn't really a thing. Otherwise, it isn't the original religion, kind of like with Jehova witnesses branching from Christinity or Bahais branching from Islam, yet those two "sects" are not accepted as actually being Christianity or Islam.
Quran (4:34) - "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great." Contemporary translations sometimes water down the word 'beat', but it is the same one used in verse 8:12 and clearly means 'to strike'.
Quran (38:44) - "And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with it, and do not break your oath..." Allah telling Job to beat his wife (Tafsir).
The arabic word used in these verses is "idribuhunna", which is derived from "daraba". The word in Arabic means to "strike" or "hit". It includes everything from a tap with a tooth-stick to what in English we call beating (bruises and bleeding).
If it is stated that so-and-so "hit" so-and-so without further description, it would be assumed to be a single blow and it could be of any magnitude. When the Prophet took a tiny stick and tapped one of the Muslims on the stomach to straighten the ranks in preparation for war, he "hit" him with this meaning. Contrast this to the English phrase: "beat them". The meaning is totally different. If you took a shoe lace and hit someone on the hand with it, you could properly say dharabtahu in Arabic but in English you could never say that you had "beaten" that person with shoe laces.
The Arabic word 'daraba' doesn't even mean "violent or intense or repeated striking. Jurists routinely use the expression "daraba al-ma' `ala wajhihi" - lit. strike water upon the face, for someone accomplishing the first rukn of wudu' (washing the face).
Also in Arabic daraba al-ard "to strike the earth" - as in verse 4:94 {When you strike the earth in the cause of Allah} - means to travel.
Go learn Arabic or go back to 4chan.
Also that branch part in the secnd verse is actually translated as "grass" , and you'd have to be demented in the head to think grass can cause any harm. Needless to say, the three steps must be taken sequentially, i.e, admonition then separation in sleeping and finally (light) hitting,
making (light) hitting a last resort only in extreme situations. Thus the vast majority of when men do hit their wives in spontaneous fits of rage often over trivial issues (say, using money or not cooking food) is absolutely not allowed and not sanctioned by Islam in any way.
Abu Dawud (2142) - "The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife."
This is as long as the man does not violate the Law of Verse 4:34, which I just finished explaining. The Hadith I explained for you before proves clearly that beating strictly forbidden in Islam. Secondly, look up Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage Kitab Al-Nikah, Hadiths 2138 and 2139 & Riyad as-Salihin, chapter 34, ‘'Treating women well’' that it is the right of the Muslim wife that she is not to be hit except in the case of nushooz (repeated rebellion against the husband’s authority, mentioned in Quran verse 4:34). Also note that, again, here "hit" doesn't mean to harm to hurt, and not that the husband's authority here isn't in simple trivial matters but important matters. Also note that this doesn't mean the husband has the right to keep his wife quite and
Even in that case, the husband is only allowed to "hit" her, but in a way which does no harm, (not in the face and not painful and no bleeding. The "hitting" is more of a symbolic act of disappointment akin to how one would scoff or turn away from another). This was mentioned by the prophet in his last speech at his Pilgrimage to Mecca.
But you also should know the prophet discouraged this option and warned those men who hit their wives. In Riyad as Saliheen, chapter 34, "Treating women well’" Nr 279, it is stated that hitting your wife lightly in this situation is only permitted when one is reasonably sure that there will be general benefit in it and this benefit is greater than the associated harms. This is mentioned in Sultan al-Ulama Izz Ibn Abd al-Salam’ quoted by Ibn Allan al-Bakri in his Sharh Riyad al-Salihin and quoted by many other great scholar in Islam’s history.
Go study the laws of Islam, or go back to 4chan.
So I've proven in which situation a husband is allowed to hit his wife lightly, in this case a husband will not be asked by Allah to why he hit his wife , because Islam doesn’t accept any other reason then the situation of Noble vers 4:34 for hitting ones wife. But if a man hits his wife in any other situation then Noble verse 4:34 and in a harsh manner unlike what is prescribed, then he will be punished for this without further question, because he clearly violated the laws of Islam.
Some hadiths.
"...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them ...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"
Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them. (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"
"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"
Bukhari (72:715) - A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.
This portion of a hadith, which you either skewered yourself or took from a site that skewers hadiths fro you, goes as follows: Rifa'a divorced his wife whereupon AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair married her. Aisha said that the lady came wearing a green veil and complained to her of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating.
When the Prophet showed up, Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as this believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!"
When AbdurRahman heard that his wife had gone to the Prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife of to meet the Prophet. The woman said, "I have done no wrong to him, yet he is impotent (not sexually satisfying) and is as useless to me as this" holding and showing a fringe of her garment.
Abdur-Rahman said, "Prophet of Allah, she has told a lie! I am very strong and can satisfy her but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifa'a (her first husband, who she was divorced form). The Prophet then said to her, "If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifa'a unless Abdur-Rahman has had intercourse with you."
In the above accurate version of the Hadith, there are few points to notice and mention:
1- The man failed to follow Noble Verse 4:34 which was sent by Allah to protect women from harmful men, which I already explained in full detail to you, does not allow for harsh/sever/harmful beating.
2- The woman was trying to get back with her first husband. In Islam, if a woman or man gets divorced through the Islamic court by "Khala'", then the only way they can get back with their original spouse is by them marrying another person, having intercourse with that new spouse, and then getting a divore. This is to guarantee that divorce would not be a joke among Muslims, and that people/couples wouldn't simply go around divorcing one another on a whim for any trivial issue that arises, as marriage and family life is an extremely valuable and treasured part of Islamic society.
3- The hadith tells only one part of the incident, it doesn't mention anything about the decision made by the Prophet after this as to what should be done with the man who caused a bruise on his wife's body, simply because only one part of the story is known and written down (as this, in case you're not following, is an oral tradition). It's ridiculous to say that Islam and the prophet allowed wife beating, as a matter of fact the opposite is true!
Go study the life of the Prophet in context, or go back to 4chan.
Muslim (4:2127) - Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."
MUSLIM Book 004, Number 2127:
Aisha narrated this:
When it was my turn for Allah's Messenger to spend the night with me, he turned his side, put on his mantle and took off his shoes and placed them near his feet, and spread the corner of his shawl on his bed and then lay down till he thought that I had gone to sleep. He then took hold of his mantle slowly and put on the shoes slowly, and opened the door and went out and then closed it lightly.
I covered my head, put on my veil and tightened my waist wrapper, and then went out following his steps till he reached Baqi (graveyard). He stood there and he stood for a long time. He then lifted his hands three times, and then returned and I also returned. He hastened his steps and I also hastened my steps. He ran and I too ran. He came to the house and I also came to the house.
I, however, preceded him in entering the house, and as I lay down in the bed, he entered the house, and said: Why is it that you are out of breath? I said: It's nothing. He said: Tell me or Allah will inform me, so then I told him (the whole story).
He said: Was it the darkness of your shadow that I saw in front of me? I said: Yes. He struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you? She said: Whatsoever the people conceal, Allah will know it.
The Prophet went on , saying: Gabriel came to me when you saw me. I responded to his call, but I concealed it from you, as you were not fully dressed. I thought that you had gone to sleep, and I did not like to awaken you, fearing that you may be frightened. Gabriel had told me: Your Lord has commanded you to go to the inhabitants of Baqi' (to those lying in the graves) and beg pardon for them.
The distance between the home of Aisha and Jannatul Baqi is quite long, over 100 M (both are historical sites in Mecca to this today). Aisha was afraid that Prophet will come to know she was following him, so in order to avoid this she came running back to home.
It is natural physiological phenomenon when a person runs for a distance more than 100 meters, body responds with hyperventilation. People breath fast & even their heart rate increases, blood pressure increases.
During such a situation, if you give slight push on their chest, the person will feel pain. You can do this to yourself to see exactly what happens. In the above hadith the Prophet just gave a push to Aisha and she felt pain.
Just because he hurt her, it doesn't mean it was his intention to hurt her. Perhaps the word "which caused me pain" makes you think differently, but when you check the context, you realize it is not a context of a man hurting his wife, on the contrary, the hadith shows how the Prophet was keen not to frighten or even bother his sleeping wife as the Prophet said to her: "I thought that you had gone to sleep, and I did not like to awaken you, fearing that you may be frightened."
The same man who didn't even like to awaken his wife fearing that she may be frightened certainly wouldn't harm her intentionally, especially during the same night as the supposed beating. Aisha herself is a testimony to the Prophet never hurting a woman, as she has narrated as such on several occasions.
Go study the life of the Prophet in context, or go back to 4chan.
Quran (7:80-84) - "...For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.... And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone)" - An account that is borrowed from the Biblical story of Sodom. Muslim scholars through the centuries have interpreted the "rain of stones" on the town as meaning that homosexuals should be stoned, since no other reason is given for the people's destruction. (The story is also repeated in suras 27 and29).
I don't see the point in quoting this? God punished a filthy society of rapists, molesters, and ******s.
Quran (7:81) - "Will ye commit abomination such as no creature ever did before you?" This verse is part of the previous text and it establishes that homosexuality as different from (and much worse than) adultery or other sexual sin. According to the Arabic grammar, homosexuality is called the worst sin, while references elsewhere describe other forms of non-marital *** as being "among great sins."
Homosexual behaviors aren't the worst of sins. Not worshiping God, murder, theft, lying, interest, disobedience to parents, and many other are above it. Again, Homosexuality is nothing more than an overglorified kink and there is no reason to believe it's natural for humans to act in such a vile way that destroys family life, unless other sexual deviants teach it to them.
