Technically Kurama Isn't The Strongest Tailed Beast!

[Itachi Namikaze]

Half was sealed simply cos baby narutos body couldnt handle full kurama ... manga HAS proven that chakra returns intime to all living things tail beasts aswell aka 8tails vs sasuke.. 8 tails was getting low on chakra there and yet now hes back full... It doesnt mean that sealed chakra is gone for good.. it was nececary to seal half in order to prevent naruto turning into kurama right away... should naruto been adult minato could have sealed entire kurama into narutos body..

You are new so I will refrain from mocking you. You are incorrect though.

 

[Zlad]

Can someone show me where Kyuubi soloed 6 bijuus, because I can only remember that Naruto took out the chakra things. He would never defeat 6 bijuus

 

[Frikid]

New angle.

Naruto's Rasengan is almost as large as Kurama:

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Kurama in this picture dwarfs those houses. Tell me... you think that Naruto's Rasengan is really that large? :|

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hmm now there is some difference if we see it like this.

but if we think according to this,

50% kurama countered 5 Bijju bombs ?

so 100% kurama >>>>>>>> 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 tails

Then there would be ALOT OF difference in chakra and power of kurama and other beasts.
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[whtniels]

I think its kinda bullshit about the "Kuruma's chakra is cut in half", chakra will refill? Otherwise everyone will die when they used all of their chakra (if it's not refilling)

 

[I love pancakes]

so i herd kurama eats narutos chakra

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

I think its kinda bullshit about the "Kuruma's chakra is cut in half", chakra will refill? Otherwise everyone will die when they used all of their chakra (if it's not refilling)

Why do you people not think?

It isn't like Kurama just used it up in battle. IT WAS SEALED. SEALED THINGS DON'T REGENERATE.

Understand this all you members who keep saying, "Oh it just regenerated because that is what chakra does."

That is idiotic. That is like saying that over time all the Edo Tensei's that were sealed will eventually regenerate, or that Minato's soul will eventually just get out from the Death Reaper, because guess what? That is exactly where half of the kyuubi chakra is. The Yin chakra I believe.

 

[TrollingSage]

Why do you people not think?

It isn't like Kurama just used it up in battle. IT WAS SEALED. SEALED THINGS DON'T REGENERATE.

Understand this all you members who keep saying, "Oh it just regenerated because that is what chakra does."

That is idiotic. That is like saying that over time all the Edo Tensei's that were sealed will eventually regenerate, or that Minato's soul will eventually just get out from the Death Reaper, because guess what? That is exactly where half of the kyuubi chakra is. The Yin chakra I believe.

Well you're right. Except for one thing. It doesnt matter whether chakra is used in a jutsu or sealed, its still lost. The chakra sealed in RDS or used in a jutsu is gone forever but there's nothing stopping Kurama's body from creating new chakra to fill the void. Unless you're implying that somehow RDS took away Kurama's ability to regain lost chakra.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Well you're right. Except for one thing. It doesnt matter whether chakra is used in a jutsu or sealed, its still lost. The chakra sealed in RDS or used in a jutsu is gone forever but there's nothing stopping Kurama's body from creating new chakra to fill the void. Unless you're implying that somehow RDS took away Kurama's ability to regain lost chakra.

Minato didn't seal away just a tiny portion of the Kyuubi's chakra, he sealed all of its Yin chakra.

And yes that is exactly what sealing chakra would do anyway. So I'm not just implying it, I'm stating it openly.

 

[FloriGlori]

Well you're right. Except for one thing. It doesnt matter whether chakra is used in a jutsu or sealed, its still lost. The chakra sealed in RDS or used in a jutsu is gone forever but there's nothing stopping Kurama's body from creating new chakra to fill the void. Unless you're implying that somehow RDS took away Kurama's ability to regain lost chakra.

You're looking at it the wrong way. It's not just Kurama's Chakra that was sealed. It's basically a part of Kurama's soul, or rather his energy that was sealed. Remember, energy is essential to create Chakra, since Chakra was originally said to be created by combining physical and mental energy.

Did the Chakra, or rather the energy in Orochimaru's arms regenerate? No. They were numb until he took over a new body, because the 'energy' of his arms was completely sealed. It was exactly the same technique.

 

[TrollingSage]

Minato didn't seal away just a tiny portion of the Kyuubi's chakra, he sealed all of its Yin chakra.

And yes that is exactly what sealing chakra would do anyway. So I'm not just implying it, I'm stating it openly.

You're looking at it the wrong way. It's not just Kurama's Chakra that was sealed. It's basically a part of Kurama's soul, or rather his energy that was sealed. Remember, energy is essential to create Chakra, since Chakra was originally said to be created by combining physical and mental energy.

Did the Chakra, or rather the energy in Orochimaru's arms regenerate? No. They were numb until he took over a new body, because the 'energy' of his arms was completely sealed. It was exactly the same technique.

Well you're also wrong on one count. Hiruzen sealed a part of Oro's soul into the death reaper. In Oro's body transfer, he simply transfer his soul and consciousness into another body. Therefore, Oro shouldnt have been able to use his arms even in another body since its the same soul.

 

[johnny335704]

For those who CBB to read - Read the Bold

Now as we all know, realistically the true strength of a tailed beast and his Jinchuuriki is not determined by the actual strength of the tailed beast, it is a combination of both of their abilities and their choice to work together that allows them to become powerful.

This removes the factor of the current fight during the war - as all tailed beasts (At least up until Edo was Released) have a Jinchuuriki to work with.

Now that is clarified we can begin to talk about the chakra available to the tailed beasts and what they really are.
I recently read a thread by @Blaze Release Wherein he determines that the tailed beasts are merely forms of spiritual energy - and do not have a physical body.

After understanding this theory, it is important to acknowledge that generally, the power of each tailed beast BY THEMSELVES (With no Jinchuuriki) is determined by the amount of tails each beast has.
This is further supported by the 8 Tails comment about the 9 tails - that the power of a Tailed beast is not determined only by the amount of tails but by the ability to work with their host. This informs us that Kurama is not working with his host at the time - he is weaker than other tailed beasts that do.
Therefore Kurama's Arrogance causes him to be weak (Alone)

In addition, the most important factor to acknowledge about Kurama's power is that his power was cut in half.
During the battle with the 4th Hokage (Minato), the 4th uses the Reaper Death Seal to seal half of the 9 Tails Chakra - evidently causing him to become halved in size.
The other half of this chakra was then sealed within Naruto - and remained with him for the rest of his life.

Now, to my knowledge, the other tailed beasts did not have any of their chakra sealed or removed from existence through being sealed - only the 9 tails lost any of his original chakra - which was sealed - halving him in size.

Therefore the chakra of the 9 tails has been halved whilst the other beast's chakra has not.
The question is up to whether or not you personally believe that the chakra of the 9 tails would be recreated in existence - (similar to what would happen if the tailed beast died with its host.)

The difference between a death and a seal, is that when the chakra is sealed - it becomes unavailable to the world - just as sealed souls are no longer available to be used in an Edo Tensei.

Therefore it is plausible to substantiate an argument that states that only half of Kurama's actual chakra is sealed - and therefore - available to Naruto, making Kurama, by himself, NOT THE STRONGEST in chakra either.

To my understanding the list might look (based on chakra) a little like this.

1, 2, 3, 4, (9), 5, 6, 7, 8
----------- 4.5------------

What do you think, and do you believe that Kurama regains his chakra over time / his being is regenerated as his chakra 'died' in the RDS?

I agree that Beasts are form of spiritual energy therefore they can revive some time later even if jinchuriki is killed. But all beasts have both type of chakra - YIN & YANG (already told in manga).

Beasts are not that intelligent while roaming wild and free therefore once they are sealed in jinchurikis then jinchurikis can use their powers with sealed beast's choice actually to make the combination more effective w(3 tailed beast's capture by Deidara arc)

Minato sealed half of the Kurama's chakra (Spritual YIN Chakra) into himself & sealed chakra can not be regenerated. So practically Kurama was sealed in Naruto with only physical YANG chakra. Naruto was unable to handle full chakra of Kurama at such young age so Minato did it this way.
But if you remember, Before attacking on Konoha, Kurama passed through some forest and Kurama's chakra spread over there. It was collected and sealed into SORA by Sora's father. This chakra was Kurama's original chakra means mix of YIN-YANG chakra. When Naruto confronted Sora, Naruto absorbed all of the Kurama's chakra from Sora's body into himself. Which means inside Naruto, Kurama received small portion of his YIN chakra back and it might have regenerated it to full YIN chakra in some time span.

(However it is just an assumption but my reason for this assumption is that - When Naruto separated Kurama's chakra forcefully, Kurama shrinked and became skinny shaped. Once Naruto activated KM for long time, Kurama continues to eat Naruto's chakra for that much timespan Naruto activated KM and Kurama returned back to Normal shape).

IMO Hence Kurama has almost all of his chakra & technically the strongest of all the 9 tailed beasts.

 

[Strict]

I really asking myself what is actually wrong with you. Of course Kurama is the strongest tailed beast, his physical strength and body size exceeds the others by far. Look at Kyuubis Bijudama which is comparable in size to those of the 5 others.

 

[sulanis]

Yeah, i agree with with poeple when they say "karuma just soloed 5 other tailed beasts....

 

[valkyrion22]

@ johnny335704:
The episodes with Sora were fillers and had nothing to do with the original story.

 

[ialiyu26]

Wohh!!! I've you ever took a hit from his sonic roar,,, last time i checked jst 1 sonic roar was able to counteract shinra tensei, nd evn more surprising it was able to blow away FIVE tailed bijuus out of his zone....
Now Jst imagine the sonic roar to be 1/100th of his power...

 

[juankimari]

I think it has always been obvious and even stated and even hinted too many times that Kurama is far more powerful and feared thatn the other tailed beasts.
Regardless of half his chakra being sealed, he stills has more power than the rest.
Besides, as stated before it has been a long time since those events and it is quite obvious that he regained his powers over time, just took him some time.

 

[LeroyP]

UM i agree because kuruma had the biju power so that is why he was so strong!!! I really think the eight tails can beat him

 

[Uchiiha]

Why do you people not think?

It isn't like Kurama just used it up in battle. IT WAS SEALED. SEALED THINGS DON'T REGENERATE.

Understand this all you members who keep saying, "Oh it just regenerated because that is what chakra does."

That is idiotic. That is like saying that over time all the Edo Tensei's that were sealed will eventually regenerate, or that Minato's soul will eventually just get out from the Death Reaper, because guess what? That is exactly where half of the kyuubi chakra is. The Yin chakra I believe.

Mate mate mate...what did minato seal away exactly? kurama's chackra or whatever is responsible for its regeneration that was inside kurama? )if im making any sense) if minato halved 50% of kurama's chakra pool you would have a point cuz you could argue that "ok he sealed away this amount of chakra and limited his capacity of holding the same amount of chakra in the future.

If its chakra pool wasnt affected, and everyone agrees here that chakra regenerates, yes it is well possible that kurama's did regenerate throughout the years and made up for the amount that was sealed by minato.

 

[IzunaUchiha2]

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Woah kurama is the best and hachibi is second. Kurama 1 tail swwosh can destory mountians ok . U fail

 

[Some Guy]

Kurama Wins... And besides that, what the tailed beast actually are, have changed drasticly thoughout the series. From chakra beings that apper randomly when hate/malice occur. To living beings created by the so6p that all have names and were once all part of the juubi.

The story is ever changing, when Kishi originally decided that half of the kyubi was going to be sealed, I highly doubt if he even thought about if his chakra would regenerate.

Just stop overthinking things, Kurama is still the strongest. It wouldnt make sense any other way to have all the hype of the stongest beast in the main character to only have his power halved. Just let it be what it is, a story. there will be inconsistancys just deal with it and enjoy the ride