Technically Kurama Isn't The Strongest Tailed Beast!

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I find this thread to be completely believable and makes perfect sense. Chakra(life energy) regenerates over time, just look at the world around you. Therefore Kurama's chakra would return to him even if it were sealed(like a seed from a tree). This would mean by this time in Naruto's life Kurama will be at full power.

Additionally; food for thought, if 9 is greater than 1 ( as so many simpletons seem to keep using as their sole argument) then why is it we as a people are always trying to be 1. If 9 really were simply better than 1, then we should all try to be 9th.
 

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Wut.. are you serious? I made them up. It's Math no Jutsu.

Which is like Plot no Jutsu; it's not supposed to make mathematical sense,, which is what the OP implied ("Kurama got his chakra divided by 2") -- Kurama and Naruto are the strongest because they are Kurama and Naruto. This should be obvious to everyone, regardless of logical or mathematical reasoning.
Ok I see what you did there.xd
 

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you shoulda kept reading and someone found proof of kurama's chakra coming back.

also i made the suggestion that he wasnt the most powerful and gave examples and an explanation to how, i didnt include panels, but i made reference to the manga, read the OP silly.

Does narutos chakra not regenerate? how many times has naruto ran out of chakra and had it regenerate? ... who cares if kuramas chakra was cut in half... hes still the nine tails and he will regenerate just like everyone else who runs out of chakra. Also when kuramas chakra was cut in half he looked all skinny cause his power was reduced, notice how he doesnt look skinny anymore..? SUPRISE its back!
 

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well first one can look at the tailed beast strength like this; suppose we give ichibi a value (greater than 2), then 2 tails will be the square of 1 tail and 3 tails will be the cube of ichibi so 9 tails will be ichibi to the power of 9, of which even half of that is greater than 7 tailed beasts or even 8, depending on the value you gave. so in chakra terms half kurama is get greater than the rest. but as stated earlier a tailed beast's power is only as strong as the lvl of coorpeation between the biju and the jichuuriki. hope this makes sense.
 

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Kyubi's strength seems to equal however many tails Naruto has released. 1 tail is about the strength of ichibi. There are too many variables involved like the strength of Naruto over garra. With all of the beasts combined that is only part of ten tail's strength because it's physical form is sealed in the moon. The 9 tails grows in power as it works with naruto, and may level out at it's original strength, plus some xp from having been jinchuuriki. As it stands eight tails is more capable tha 9 tails because of how he works with killer B. That pair may be foreshadowing for how Naruto will tap 9 tail's true potential.
 

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well first one can look at the tailed beast strength like this; suppose we give ichibi a value (greater than 2), then 2 tails will be the square of 1 tail and 3 tails will be the cube of ichibi so 9 tails will be ichibi to the power of 9, of which even half of that is greater than 7 tailed beasts or even 8, depending on the value you gave. so in chakra terms half kurama is get greater than the rest. but as stated earlier a tailed beast's power is only as strong as the lvl of coorpeation between the biju and the jichuuriki. hope this makes sense.
I'll buy it (2^8)/2=128 and (2^9)/2=256 before jinchuuriki 9 tails swould stll be twice 8 tails. (2^7)=128 and so on. (2^1)+(2^2)+(2^3)+(2^4)+(2^5)+(2^6)+(2^7)+(2^8) = 510 > 512
 

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Kurama's chakra is back period. Minato seald half and left the remaing half n naruto so that by the time it regenerates naruto should/would be able to control it.
 

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I personally believe that even though only half of the 9 tails chakra was sealed inside naruto he would regenerate that chakra in time. I say this because when Naruto battled the 9 tails for control of his chakra he won and took a lot of it, the 9 tails was then shown much weaker and his body was smaller, like when Minato sealed half of his chakra with the RDS. However when we see the 9 tails again his body and chakra had regenerated. Even if I do believe you are correct about Tobi not being able to fully control the tailed beasts and not letting them use their full strength when battling with Naruto and Kurama, he is still the strongest tailed beast in my mind.
 

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I think what you have deduced is logical enough, but i am unsure if the power leveling between the tailed beasts is linear like that or possibly exponential. This is also despite the fact that in Naruto technical deductions like this dont really count for much, as Kishi has the last say. (Kakashis Mangekyo for instance)

None the less, solid work
 

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1. The kuuybi has a physical form (Proven and Closed)
2. Just because half of the chakara from the Nine tails was sealed, does not indicate that it cannot generate. Kabuto was still able to help Oro use his jutsus by using Oro arms which was sealed. (Debate)
3. The Kuuybi is SEALED in Naruto, yet he was able to reform in the fight against pain, isn't it plausible that he was able to regenerate his chakara regardless having it sealed?
4. Lets say if his "Chakara" is cut in half, He is still powerful without naruto, powerful enough to beat the other tailed beast.

By your logic, kurama would be ranked as so: 1,2,3,4,(9),5,6,7,8 making him a (4.5)
However that 4.5 + x equaled out tails powers of tailed 2,3,4,5,6, and 7 beasts. (Closed)
let x = naruto

2+3+4+5+6+7 = 32

4.5 + x = 32

x = 27.5

Naruto = 27.5

27.5 > 4.5 (which means Naruto can beat kurama with ease) WRONG
27.5 > 2+3+4+6+7 (which means Naruto can beat all those other tailed beast COMBINED) WRONG

Are you telling me naruto can single 2,3,4,6, and 7 tailed beasts and WIN? Sorry, But no

SO BY CONCLUSION, even with his power cut in half, and without naruto's help he can beat the other tailed beast. If that wasnt the case then naruto would beable to single the other beast ALONE which isnt the case. Case CLOSED
 
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The yin half was removed the yang the raw physical power is still very much intact. Essentially the nine tails was robbed of the aspect of his power that allows for genjutsu. To further elaborate he lost his inner uchiha but his hashirama his visible tangible power,that earth/village rending power we all know and love is still there and still strongest of all tailed beast
 

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Well i do agree in your statement of the tailed beasts being weaker if they don't work with its host. But as for the part of the tails i have my own thoughts about that.As i read the part where the eight tails says that tails don't matter, they were all in a desperate moment that needed kurama to actually take a part in this war rather than offer "some help". So maybe this claim that the eight tails said was to provoke kurama to help and push him further to work with naruto.
And as for kurama regenerating his chakra, i think he will.Either through time on his own, or maybe kurama can drain some of naruto's chakra and make it his own since naruto may be his "partner" now, but that doesn't change his personality of being greedy and grumpy(LAWL =P), plus naruto has chakra to spare.
And i thought of something, if i'm not mistaken there was also leftover chakra left all over konoha from the battle kurama was with minato(and i think also with 1st hokage) and which some guys tried to collect.And i thought that maybe kurama could recollect his chakra that was left behind.(Just a theory)
Overall kurama at the moment is not the strongest tailed beast nor the weakest (in my opinion the slug tailed beast is the weakest but i don't want to put my full thoughts on that since i did the same thing with janemba from dragonball z and he turned out to be a powerful opponent being a fat blump).
 

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Can't believe people are really taking their time and effort to construct narutoverse math no jutsu on this topic....highly unneeded

Chakra can be restored over time.....that is the reason why when a tailed beast and it's host die,the tailed beast can return.Why you ask?because a tailed beast is made of chakra and can regenerate it back to it's full power.Therefore kurama is regenerating back into his full size and in other words his full power as a tailed beast(alone).Please understand what the 8 tails meant by a tailed beast's power.Kurama was the strongest and by far is the strongest tailed beast because he can restore back into his full power.

Trust me if he couldn't restore his chakra the 8 tails would of called him weak.Seriously this topic was unneeded for the simple fact CHAKRA REGEINERATES OVER TIME!!! how much does that have to be implied?
 
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wow, Op wtf are you talking about? Manga== Facts stop using your dumb logic... plus since more tails don't necessarily mean they are stronger why are you listing them in order of strength my the amount of tails (aside from the nine tails obviously)? lmfao
 

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The Kyuubi is by far the closest in terms of form with the Jubi, meaning that the Kyuubi/Kurama is the closest in terms of capabilities with the Jubi (though he is just a part of a whole). Kurama is the strongest tailed beast because he resides in the mutha****in main character damn it.
 
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