Team 7 wins. The only attack that is bothersome here is I.T Sasuke blocks it out via Susanoo. Naruto makes about 300 clones to stomp the living shit out of Orochimaru and Kabuto's edo's. Once the effects of I.T wears off this becomes more of a stomp.
Team 7 wins. The only attack that is bothersome here is I.T Sasuke blocks it out via Susanoo. Naruto makes about 300 clones to stomp the living shit out of Orochimaru and Kabuto's edo's. Once the effects of I.T wears off this becomes more of a stomp.
If Sasuke blocks it out via Susano'o, they are sitting ducks and CT meteors get rained down on them, Juubito launches a Juubidama and essentially wipes all of them out in an instant. Naruto's clones would be absolutely non factor against Juubito or Madara, as he is splitting up his power enormously.
I don't see how they defeat Madara and Juubito, IT forces Susano'o use and unless you are implying Susano'o can tank CT meteors that are multiple mountain ranges in size being rained down on him or a massive Juubidama. They simply get shit on. If we also take into consideration that all of Madara's abilities are boosted by Juubi and Hashirama's SM, so abilities like Tengai Shinsei, PS, Mokuton and so on should be on a completely different level of power than what we've originally seen from said powers.
Kabuto and Oro with Edo's shit on Gai and Kakashi.
If Sasuke blocks it out via Susano'o, they are sitting ducks and CT meteors get rained down on them, Juubito launches a Juubidama and essentially wipes all of them out in an instant. Naruto's clones would be absolutely non factor against Juubito or Madara, as he is splitting up his power enormously.
I don't see how they defeat Madara and Juubito, IT forces Susano'o use and unless you are implying Susano'o can tank CT meteors that are multiple mountain ranges in size being rained down on him or a massive Juubidama. They simply get shit on. If we also take into consideration that all of Madara's abilities are boosted by Juubi and Hashirama's SM, so abilities like Tengai Shinsei, PS, Mokuton and so on should be on a completely different level of power than what we've originally seen from said powers.
Kabuto and Oro with Edo's shit on Gai and Kakashi.
No there not sitting ducks Naruto can still make clones. While inside Sasuke Susanoo. Naruto has Omyoudons orbs just like Juubito when those Juubidama's let off Naruto protects his team with TSB Or he could lend Kakashi enough chakra to warp the Juubi tree before they even go off. Even though they split his chakra they still managed to overwhelm someone on Kaguya's level so doing the same to Madara and Obito won't be difficult. Juubito gets finished with one touch from Naruto.(x). Kakashi warps any mokuton techs he could use. Any Susanoo/ large Mokuton techs gets blown away by multiple Rasenbijuudama's.
No there not sitting ducks Naruto can still make clones. While inside Sasuke Susanoo. Naruto has Omyoudons orbs just like Juubito when those Juubidama's let off Naruto protects his team with TSB Or he could lend Kakashi enough chakra to warp the Juubi tree before they even go off. Even though they split his chakra they still managed to overwhelm someone on Kaguya's level so doing the same to Madara and Obito won't be difficult. Juubito gets finished with one touch from Naruto.(x). Kakashi warps any mokuton techs he could use.
Yeah, no. Naruto's TBBFRS are not negating Juubidama and multiple CT, he has 6 of them. Madara casually produced multiple CT in an instant and Obito is capable of launching multiple TBB. Naruto's clones are physically outmatched by Obito and Madara, due to the fact that Obito's chakra arms are capable of destroying the barrier with ease and being able to break SM Hashirama's Diety Gates with zero trouble. While BM Naruto's were capable of restraining Bijuu, this means a Juubi Jin is far more capable. Naruto by himself is certainly physically superior to both, but not his clones.
Kakashi warps any Mokuton? Juubito has Kamui as well, he just cannot phase through objects.
Yeah, no. Naruto's TBBFRS are not negating Juubidama and multiple CT, he has 6 of them. Madara casually produced multiple CT in an instant and Obito is capable of launching multiple TBB. Naruto's clones are physically outmatched by Obito and Madara, due to the fact that Obito's chakra arms are capable of destroying the barrier with ease and being able to break SM Hashirama's Diety Gates with zero trouble. While BM Naruto's were capable of restraining Bijuu, this means a Juubi Jin is far more capable. Naruto by himself is certainly physically superior to both, but not his clones.
Kakashi warps any Mokuton? Juubito has Kamui as well, he just cannot phase through objects.
Never said they could did you read correctly? Naruto can use far more than 6 of them via clones once they come out that's 6Rasenbijuudama's for every 1 clone. Kakashi would Kamui the tree before it gets time to shoot the TBB's Or Naruto negates it via TSB. Naruto chakra arms shit on Obito's seeing as they match Kaguya's giant fist.(
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). Juubito cannot use kamui in anyform. Let's say for a second he does Kakashi warps Naruto clones to the Kamui dimension the moment Juubito uses kamui they obliterate his ass.
Never said they could did you read correctly? Naruto can use far more than 6 of them via clones once they come out that's 6Rasenbijuudama's for every 1 clone. Kakashi would Kamui the tree before it gets time to shoot the TBB's Or Naruto negates it via TSB. Naruto chakra arms shit on Obito's seeing as they match Kaguya's giant fist.(
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). Juubito cannot use kamui in anyform. Let's say for a second he does Kakashi warps Naruto clones to the Kamui dimension the moment Juubito uses kamui they obliterate his ass.
Never said they could did you read correctly? Naruto can use far more than 6 of them via clones once they come out that's 6Rasenbijuudama's for every 1 clone. Kakashi would Kamui the tree before it gets time to shoot the TBB's Or Naruto negates it via TSB. Naruto chakra arms shit on Obito's seeing as they match Kaguya's giant fist.(
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). Juubito cannot use kamui in anyform. Let's say for a second he does Kakashi warps Naruto clones to the Kamui dimension the moment Juubito uses kamui they obliterate his ass.
Where did you get the notion Naruto can use 6 Goudama per clone? Unless I'm missing something, the only thing he can do is switch his Goudama with a clone. Naruto's CLONES aren't overpowering Obito, this is just another testament to Juubito's physical strength,
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Juubito can certainly use the warping aspect of Kamui, it is a ridiculous to say Madara can but not Obito, who ONLY stated he cannot phase through attacks. I already addressed the clones argument, he isn't besting a Juubi Jin who casually busts holes in the earth by slamming into it, all while eradicating a CS enhanced Susano'o and an SM enhanced BM avatar.
TSB are not tanking meteors or multiple Juubidama, and he has to choose between using TBBFRS or use them defensively.
Yes they actually do. Madara has no chance of soloing since he hasn't shown anything suggesting that he can once all his limbo's are countered Sasuke teleports him between him and Naruto and they seal him. Naruto finishes Obito with one touch and i've already explained how. BM Minato laughable. Both Naruto and Sasuke are to fast to get caught by him secondly 8th gate Gai pounds Minato to dust so they won't have to worry about him. 3rd Naruto sends 1 clone to solo him.
Where did you get the notion Naruto can use 6 Goudama per clone? Unless I'm missing something, the only thing he can do is switch his Goudama with a clone. Naruto's CLONES aren't overpowering Obito, this is just another testament to Juubito's physical strength,
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Juubito can certainly use the warping aspect of Kamui, it is a ridiculous to say Madara can but not Obito, who ONLY stated he cannot phase through attacks. I already addressed the clones argument, he isn't besting a Juubi Jin who casually busts holes in the earth by slamming into it, all while eradicating a CS enhanced Susano'o and an SM enhanced BM avatar.
TSB are not tanking meteors or multiple Juubidama, and he has to choose between using TBBFRS or use them defensively.
Never said he could use 6TSB's per clone i said he can use 6Rasenbijuudama's. 1clone in Naruto current state is far superior to Bm Naruto as a whole. Multilple clones attacking Obito will overwhelm him. His TSB's get obliterated by Naruto chakra hands alone seeing as Madara's couldn't even hurt him while in base.(
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). Obito eradicating a CM enhanced Susanoo and a SM enhanced BM avatar means nothing compared to Naruto. Obito one eye warping speed isn't even faster than a TSB flying at you. Naruto clones blitz and tear Juubito and his TSB apart. Also Naruto can blind them via 7tails techs.(
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). Rasenbijuudama's obliterate Ct's and TSB negate Juubidama's.
He utilizes the Goudama in his TBBFRS, that's why they disappear. Using 6 Bijuurasenshuriken for each clone sounds far fetched and you have no feats or logic to support this. You're entire argument is based around clones, yet you still haven't given me a sufficient counter to IT and multiple CT/TBB, clones are definitely not capable of dishing out the number of Bijuurasenshuriken you imply they can use.
You also called SM Yang Blessing Naruto "Base" yet utilizing Bijuu chakra and SM. Yes, Madara's TSB was kicked with ease, I can agree with that, but Obito used his Goudama in a much different fashion when physically fighting.
The mere fact that you think Naruto's clones can stand up against two Juubi Jinchuriki and protect Susano'o despite all of their abilities is unbelievable, this shouldn't even be up for debate.
He utilizes the Goudama in his TBBFRS, that's why they disappear. Using 6 Bijuurasenshuriken for each clone sounds far fetched and you have no feats or logic to support this. You're entire argument is based around clones, yet you still haven't given me a sufficient counter to IT and multiple CT/TBB, clones are definitely not capable of dishing out the number of Bijuurasenshuriken you imply they can use.
You also called SM Yang Blessing Naruto "Base" yet utilizing Bijuu chakra and SM. Yes, Madara's TSB was kicked with ease, I can agree with that, but Obito used his Goudama in a much different fashion when physically fighting.
Your right i noticed that. Naruto manipulates one of his TSB around him Kakashi and Gai Sasuke and Sakura. Uses a clone to shoot 5Rasenbijuudama's to obliterate the incoming CT's Sasuke. Kakashi could snipe the tree before the Bijuudama's even go off or warp the team and go intangible to make them useless either way they have far to many ways of rendering that combo useless. It doesn't matter the which way Obito uses his TSB Naruto chakra is easily enough to overwhelm his TSB let alone him using attacks.
Edit- You act as if Sasuke Susanoo cannot protect it's self.
Your right i noticed that. Naruto manipulates one of his TSB around him Kakashi and Gai Sasuke and Sakura. Uses a clone to shoot 5Rasenbijuudama's to obliterate the incoming CT's Sasuke. Kakashi could snipe the tree before the Bijuudama's even go off or warp the team and go intangible to make them useless either way they have far to many ways of rendering that combo useless. It doesn't matter the which way Obito uses his TSB Naruto chakra is easily enough to overwhelm his TSB let alone him using attacks.
Edit- You act as if Sasuke Susanoo cannot protect it's self.
My first question would be, how does Kakashi snipe the tree without making eye contact? In order to snipe the tree, he would have to be outside of Susano'o.
Wouldn't Kakashi warping the team mean he would expose them to IT light. If he somehow managed to warp his team, Obito can teleport a TBB directly into the Kamui dimension . I also firmly believe Sasuke's Susano'o would be flattened by CT meteors and even if Naruto did happen to destroy the majority with his TBBFRS(Mind the fact that there is still giant fragments of rubble left unvaporized), Madara can still use Tengai Shinsei and Mokuton under the Susano'o dome. I never stated or even implied that Susano'o can't protect itself, I am stating Sasuke has to keep formation and can't utilize Susano'o in any other way but to protect his team from IT for the time it's light shines.
Kakashi's definitely not capable of making everyone around him intangible, Obito made the Gunbai intangible but that's a simple weapon. In order to achieve what you are saying is he would have to literally make everyone there intangible, including Sasuke's Susano'o. Which I don't see happening, with or without a chakra cloak/power boost.
So in conclusion..
Sniping the tree is impossible in these circumstances.
Naruto destroying the majority of the CT is irrelevant, as there is still rubble bigger than mountain ranges left untouched after the explosion. Not to mention Madara can use Mokuton under the Susano'o dome or Tengai Shinsei to seal the deal.
Warping is countered via TBB/Goudama Nuke like Juubito used in the early parts of the fight.