[VS] Team 7 vs The world

[LuckyMan]

If Hiruzen is in his prime, he solos.

 

[Unorthodox]

Team 7 wins 8 Gates gai with a Ashura shroud would whipe everyone thats alive be he dies Sasuke holds off Madara while Naruto & Kakashi compeletely destroy the rest

and JJ Madara by no means is a match for Nardo & Sasuke no match at all

 

[TRE MERCER]

My first question would be, how does Kakashi snipe the tree without making eye contact? In order to snipe the tree, he would have to be outside of Susano'o.


Wouldn't Kakashi warping the team mean he would expose them to IT light. If he somehow managed to warp his team, Obito can teleport a TBB directly into the Kamui dimension . I also firmly believe Sasuke's Susano'o would be flattened by CT meteors and even if Naruto did happen to destroy the majority with his TBBFRS(Mind the fact that there is still giant fragments of rubble left unvaporized), Madara can still use Tengai Shinsei and Mokuton under the Susano'o dome. I never stated or even implied that Susano'o can't protect itself, I am stating Sasuke has to keep formation and can't utilize Susano'o in any other way but to protect his team from IT for the time it's light shines.

You realize attacks from inside the Susanoo goes right through as if there is nothing there? Naruto could launch a YRS at the Juubi tree etc. If Kakashi warps his team to the Kamui dimension and Obito sends a Juubidama comes at them Naruto negates it via tsb. Those mountain range debris only came down from the asteroids that Sasuke cut the ones that Naruto bombed were completely obliterated.(

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). Warping them is a completely counter to the bottom half of your post.

Kakashi's definitely not capable of making everyone around him intangible, Obito made the Gunbai intangible but that's a simple weapon. In order to achieve what you are saying is he would have to literally make everyone there intangible, including Sasuke's Susano'o. Which I don't see happening, with or without a chakra cloak/power boost.


So in conclusion..

• Sniping the tree is impossible in these circumstances.
• Naruto destroying the majority of the CT is irrelevant, as there is still rubble bigger than mountain ranges left untouched after the explosion. Not to mention Madara can use Mokuton under the Susano'o dome or Tengai Shinsei to seal the deal.
• Warping is countered via TBB/Goudama Nuke like Juubito used in the early parts of the fight.

Why can't he Naruto can feed him chakra so he can preform something like this. Countered everything in that conclusion.

 

[Bronze]

Madara shits on both by himself, as canonically.​

 

[Blunt]

You realize attacks from inside the Susanoo goes right through as if there is nothing there? Naruto could launch a YRS at the Juubi tree etc. If Kakashi warps his team to the Kamui dimension and Obito sends a Juubidama comes at them Naruto negates it via tsb. Those mountain range debris only came down from the asteroids that Sasuke cut the ones that Naruto bombed were completely obliterated.(

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). Warping them is a completely counter to the bottom half of your post.


Why can't he Naruto can feed him chakra so he can preform something like this. Countered everything in that conclusion.

1 TSB is going to protect the entirety of team 7? It isn't covering that amount of AoE nor is it negating a nuke made of the same substance, Obito is not limited to sending just one... Naruto did not completely destroy the meteors, in the exact scan you linked the upper half of the meteors were still there. Even if the explosion continued expanding, Tengai Shinsei is perfectly suitable. Kakashi cannot see through the Susano'o, Sasuke's Susano'o had to completely block out light. Therefore, I fail to see how Kakashi snipes the tree. Obito doesn't need the tree anyway, he can utilize nukes without it.

So, after Naruto uses his TBBFRS, Madara uses Tengai Shinsei and proceeds to utilize Mokuton, they warp, Naruto attempts to protect his team with a single TSB from multiple nukes.

In response to previous statement.

The rest of your argument is based off the assumption that Naruto giving Kakashi chakra will upgrade him to the point he can make everything intangible, including Susano'o is nothing but a baseless argument and is not up for discussion. (Which you stated in an earlier post in this thread, not sure if you still genuinely believe this.)

 

[TRE MERCER]

1 TSB is going to protect the entirety of team 7? It isn't covering that amount of AoE nor is it negating a nuke made of the same substance, Obito is not limited to sending just one... Naruto did not completely destroy the meteors, in the exact scan you linked the upper half of the meteors were still there. Even if the explosion continued expanding, Tengai Shinsei is perfectly suitable. Kakashi cannot see through the Susano'o, Sasuke's Susano'o had to completely block out light. Therefore, I fail to see how Kakashi snipes the tree. Obito doesn't need the tree anyway, he can utilize nukes without it.

Yes it is these things can stretch they have no real form or shape. Show me a scan implying that he can fuse TSB with a Juubidama? Obito can use Juubidama's without the Juubi tree? I've gave multiple counters to this you keep bringing up that one.

In response to previous statement.

The rest of your argument is based off the assumption that Naruto giving Kakashi chakra will upgrade him to the point he can make everything intangible, including Susano'o is nothing but a baseless argument and is not up for discussion. (Which you stated in an earlier post.)

No not really i followed your league when you said how is he going to turn the Susanoo tangible. He warps them to the Kamui dimension. While he stays intangible.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Current Kakashi, Gai , Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura (dies a tragic death if not protected)?

They probably clear.










Kidding team 7 gets ****ed.

 

[Blunt]

It cannot expand that far with 1 TSB, in the case of a Juubidama. In the case of a Goudama nuke it can.

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And he can use nukes with or without the tree, I didn't say he can use Juubidama, he can use multiple nukes. These nukes are reusable as well, refer to spoiler.
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I think you severely underestimate Juubito and Madara's abilities. Naruto's TSB may be able to expand as far as Obito's does when his Goudama Nuke explodes, but that is uncertain and he hasn't really shown the best defensive usage with them.

Madara should be able to replicate this ability, as he is also a wielder of Goudama and always easily adapts to new abilities, as shown with Mokuton, SM and controlling the Juubi effortlessly.

You gave me no counters, you keep saying warping or TSB will handle it all. I already gave you viable counters why they die whether they warp or not.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

The world wins.

Between Juubito, Juubi Madara, SM Hashirama and a pair of FTG users, Team 1 can't do much.

FTG shi ts on Kamui and Shinsuusenju >>> PS.

 

[TRE MERCER]

It cannot expand that far with 1 TSB, in the case of a Juubidama. In the case of a Goudama nuke it can.

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And he can use nukes with or without the tree, I didn't say he can use Juubidama, he can use multiple nukes. These nukes are reusable as well, refer to spoiler.
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I think you severely underestimate Juubito and Madara's abilities. Naruto's TSB may be able to expand as far as Obito's does when his Goudama Nuke explodes, but that is uncertain and he hasn't really shown the best defensive usage with them.

Madara should be able to replicate this ability, as he is also a wielder of Goudama and always easily adapts to new abilities, as shown with Mokuton, SM and controlling the Juubi effortlessly.

You gave me no counters, you keep saying warping or TSB will handle it all. I already gave you viable counters why they die whether they warp or not.

That is not a nuke that explosion was mediocre none the less. A nuke is an explosion with a hude aoe. It can't expand that far? L0l all they have to do is stay close to Naruto and he covers them a 360 in the Kamui dimension or they could simiply dodge that exploding TSB seeing as it aoe is puny.

Your overrating there abilities without thinking anything through here. If Madara uses I.T Obito gets trapped in it seeing as he cannot protect himself from it. Also Madara cannot attack while I.T is in action since he has to let it shine via light and what stops these giant rocks from hurting Obito as well or destroying his Juubi tree?

Counter 1 - Kakashi warps team 7 while he stays intangible. Naruto dodges exploding TSB. Or negates Juubidama via Tsb.

Counter 2- Naruto throws 5Rasenbijuudama's at the incoming CT's and Use clones to destroy the Juubi tree before it has time to go off.

Counter 3- Infinte Tsukuyomi catches Obito so there is no Juubidama Tree getting made here.

Counter 4- Naruto simply coat Sasuke Susanoo in TSB's rendering Juubidama's useless the falling debris is tanked by Hagoromo buffed Susanoo coated in Omyoudons.

The world wins.

Between Juubito, Juubi Madara, SM Hashirama and a pair of FTG users, Team 1 can't do much.

FTG shi ts on Kamui and Shinsuusenju >>> PS.

There getting killed and cought by Infinite Tsukuyomi or the Juubidama's going off so there none factors or an 8th gate assault.

 

[V h o]

Team 7 low difficulty. Everything under juubi jin gets neg'd.

 

[Blunt]

That is not a nuke that explosion was mediocre none the less. A nuke is an explosion with a hude aoe. It can't expand that far? L0l all they have to do is stay close to Naruto and he covers them a 360 in the Kamui dimension or they could simiply dodge that exploding TSB seeing as it aoe is puny.

Your overrating there abilities without thinking anything through here. If Madara uses I.T Obito gets trapped in it seeing as he cannot protect himself from it. Also Madara cannot attack while I.T is in action since he has to let it shine via light and what stops these giant rocks from hurting Obito as well or destroying his Juubi tree?

Counter 1 - Kakashi warps team 7 while he stays intangible. Naruto dodges exploding TSB. Or negates Juubidama via Tsb.

Counter 2- Naruto throws 5Rasenbijuudama's at the incoming CT's and Use clones to destroy the Juubi tree before it has time to go off.

Counter 3- Infinte Tsukuyomi catches Obito so there is no Juubidama Tree getting made here.

Counter 4- Naruto simply coat Sasuke Susanoo in TSB's rendering Juubidama's useless the falling debris is tanked by Hagoromo buffed Susanoo coated in Omyoudons.


There getting killed and cought by Infinite Tsukuyomi or the Juubidama's going off so there none factors or an 8th gate assault.

Skimmed through, honestly couldn't care to debate this anymore.

• Naruto dodges it, leaves his unexpectant teammates to die.
• Goudama has the same properties as Naruto's, and have properties that exceeds Jinton, same substance.
• Multiple Goudama can be sent, 1 TSB is not tanking them all.
• Madara can have Limbo outside of Sasuke's Susano'o and effectively stall Naruto's clones. Allowing Juubidama to charge.
• Obito has the Rinnegan and is a Juubi Jin, IT effecting him is debatable at best.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, because this is going no where.

If you're deadset on believing they can defeat Juubito and Madara, they definitely are not capable beating all of Edo's as well in the same battle w/ Juubi Jins.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Skimmed through, honestly couldn't care to debate this anymore.

• Naruto dodges it, leaves his unexpectant teammates to die.
• Goudama has the same properties as Naruto's, and have properties that exceeds Jinton, same substance.
• Multiple Goudama can be sent, 1 TSB is not tanking them all.
• Madara can have Limbo outside of Sasuke's Susano'o and effectively stall Naruto's clones. Allowing Juubidama to charge.
• Obito has the Rinnegan and is a Juubi Jin, IT effecting him is debatable at best.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, because this is going no where.

If you're deadset on believing they can defeat Juubito and Madara, they definitely are not capable beating all of Edo's as well in the same battle w/ Juubi Jins.

We can agree to disagree but there's something i need to say. Obito can clearly get caught in I.T he has nothing but a regular Rinnegan that's not going to protect him. Madara can only use 4 limbo while Naruto can use atleast 300 clones L0l.

 

[genii96]

Juubito,juubidara,kabuto+30 edos,orochimaru+edo hokages and the rest utterly buttrape team 7