Yeah, who cares that she is one of the two best medic nins in the manga.
Talent and Hardwork in team 7
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Blackwatch
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She does fit the genius role the best out of the 3. Sasuke has had too many handouts and boosts to be considered a genius. Minato, Itachi, etc all fulfilled their part as brilliant shinobi rarely seem without so much backup and empty hype. And she has the Academic intelligence to match almost on par with Shikamaru.
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ah true, thats why shes a chunnin, and her teammates are still gennin.
@Bold, thats a fan made "feat" of High chakra control.
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Exactly! At least sasuke and naruto have those flashy moves that makes everything better, heck even Gai has flashy moves! it's not simply punches, 8 gates are hax!
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Everyone got the cloak bra what are you saying. He gave everyone the cloak, including Sakura after he gave Hinata. To activate byakugo/yin seal, Sakura said she had been focussing and storing chakra on her forehead for three years, that includes the time Naruto gave her kyubi cloak. You're denying the obvious here. Also, there is the time that Shikamaru was dieing and Sakura was struggling to keep him alive, she, Sakura herself said that even though Naruto's cloak was no longer visible, his chakra was still being distributed to everyone and that it was what kept Shikamaru alive long enough for Tsunade to come and heal him. She said that she'd realised it when she tried to use mystic palm on him. Any further denial from you about Sakura's progress being aided by Kyubi chakra is mundane, it's pretty clear that Sakura was being fed Naruto's chakra the whole time since he first gave her the cloak, even when she was healing him and others.
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I do consider you as one of the smartest people here but you do baffle me sometimes Shelke.
Are you insinuating that Naruto didn't work hard for his powers? Pls indulge me for a while.
He learnt rasengan in three days but he worked really hard for it till he even collapsed. Even Tsunade's apprentice was surprised about his dedication to training and his tenacity.
Granted he used a clone to help him in the end which reduced the time to 3 days and I wonder if that meant he would have taken 6 days to complete it alone.
You also talk of the kyuubi helping him and all that even using kagebunshin as an example. Do you mean that, with a huge volume of Chakra, anyone can execute tajuu kagebunshin to perfection? Aren't you maybe discrediting him too much considering the kyuubi even hampered his use of normal Chakra as Jiraiya stated?
Why can't hardwork and talent go along within same person?
Tbh i do not get fuss over it. Talent and hardwork are not conflicting things.
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Tbh i do not get fuss over it. Talent and hardwork are not conflicting things.
Thank you for the compliment. It's appreciated. The thread is about comparison. Can you honestly suggest to me that Naruto's bodily endurance and mass clones didn't aid him in his endeavours? You cannot, because the chakra that naturally leaked out of the seal to mix with his own helped him immensely.
One cannot simply deny that he leaned all major techniques using Bushins to multiply and shorten the training time. You have to admit that Naruto didn't even know the basics, which made everything even harder. Kakashi and Pa had to go over everything from scratch. So even that was a major hindrance to this whole thing.
My point being, Sakura has none of that. Even you are admitting that he did use the aid of clones. The factor is there, and it's a major one. In my personal opinion, bar Sakura, Gai and Lee worked the hardest. No one can take their spot. About the last point on Kurama: it gave too many benefits as well, as I explained: endurance to maintain bushins, the ability to spring back up and shake off physical fatigue from constant practicing, and the chakra to form mass clones.
Kakashi really stated that only Naruto can accomplish this training regime. His recovery period is drastically short. Anyhow, I won't deny that I put down Naruto, but not all of my points are invalid here.
Naruto:rasengan,rasegan,rasengan
Sasuke:chidori,amatarsu(however you spell it), susanoo
Kakashi(not with PS): pretty much spams kamui and lighting blade
So much fun and not boring at all
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Sasuke came from a prodigious clan, but still had to work his butt off...even with MS he had to use experience as training, since MS isn't the same as the standard sharingan. Sakura, had to come from zero to a point where she can beat at least half of the ninjas in the show...Naruto, the thing with him is that his training with Jiraiya was disappointing...however, he still trained until SM...since then, it was fighting Kurama for chakra control and befriending him(which wasn't an easy job, but still won't call that training or even experience). All three of them, have worked hard, though I wish Sakura's supposed talent in genjutsu was really shown.
Fair enough, not all your points are invalid. That i can agree to.
But you mentioned that the kyuubi's power gave him endurance? Won't u agree that stamina and endurance is what defines him as an Uzumaki and that alone is what allows him to withstand the kyuubi's power in the first place?
I think the main benefit he received from the kyuubi b4 he mastered it is that it stopped him from getting killed in battle. Whenever he used kyuubi Chakra, it was something of a last ditch effort at the expense of getting his body stolen by kyuubi
I agree that the kyuubi Chakra leaking thingy is legit and it helped him amass chakra but it all kinda boils down to him having the ability to control the chakra in the first place.
Also, the high recovery rate comes at a cost of decreased life span.
I agree with all your points on Sasuke n Sakura.