Mihael Keehl
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I was going to mention other examples but Forbidden Technique beat me to it.like who?.
But just to state: Team Guy, Team Kurenai, Sand Siblings
[Taijutsu] Tsunade vs. Gai
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But just to state: Team Guy, Team Kurenai, Sand Siblings
KingHashirama
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Out sped in the start? yuppp, when she was out of breath.
^^^^^ starting a fight after 20 years
Later on she proceeds to punch Orochimaru who a meter or 2 away from her while Naruto in the middle.. and she proceeds to punch him from a laying down position to a standing position, not even allowing Orochimaru to move a single step despite him staring right at her.
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Mihael Keehl
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Mihael Keehl
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I've mentioned this numerous times, Orochimaru was sick, exhausted and armless, that impedes your ability to move at your top speed.
Forbidden Technique
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This is a prime example why the Tsunade fanbase has a bad rep. I just proved to you that the term "past performances" couldn't possibly be referring to cannon feats only, and this was your reply. Beating around the bush, and ignoring the key point. Temari going from chuunin to jounin doesn't qualify as a "past performance", which only further supports me. Just give it up and concede, smh.
KidGamer65
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Fine, but you'd have to prove that Orochimaru coming towards her is enough of a hindrance that she would replicate what KN3 did despite her punch pushing Oro nowhere near as far as he went when KN3 smacked him. And you'd have to factor in that gravity helped her there.
If she had used the last of her chakra there, she would've reverted to her old state then and not after she punked Orochimaru.
KingHashirama
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Now provide these:
- Orochimaru not being able to move even a single step because he was sick and exhausted.
- Provide a scan of him being exhausted when he gave Tsunade 3 deep cuts while you could literally see her shaking.
What i provided:
- Tsunade in a way more ****ed up state than Orochimaru
- With more serious wounds than Orochimaru at that moment
Soo yea bro.
Mihael Keehl
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By Tsunade's own admission, Orochimaru was
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than she was.Tsunade was in his way and not moving, it wasn't like she was trying to defend against his attack.
KingHashirama
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1 issue this happened way before that scenario, before she had wounds, before her phobia kicked in.
Lord Tywin
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Time to educate you since you missed everything in that fight besides Tsunade
First of all Oro was struggling to even bring up his arm
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Once again Orochimaru struggling to hold up his hands
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He was sweating all over from just walking and standing
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You're missing the fact that smallest amount of pain in body can restrict your entire body movements. I'm not even speaking of having the soul in your hand ripped out of you. Manga made it very clear. None of the sannin were even close to their full power, and Oro had the worse handicap.
Now onto Jiraya
literally before the fight
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Get out with that garbage. Read the manga.
The guy that says he's not good at Taijutsu shits on Tsunade in movement
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Really keeping up with Obito in Base destroys anything Tsunade has shown in Taijutsu. All I really need to say. I know common sense don't work here, but hey who am I kidding?
Mihael Keehl
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Yeah but it doesn't change the fact that Orochimaru was in the same condition fighting her. Kabuto specifically stated that only she could heal her and nothing they did was working. So why wouldn't he be in the same condition in a fight against Tsunade a week later?1 issue this happened way before that scenario, before she had wounds, before her phobia kicked in.
In fact, wouldn't he be worse since he hasn't gotten treated.
KingHashirama
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yes. But now can you provide the scan where in that fight he was not able to move a single step due to that?
He sure didn't have any issues moving in the entire fight before.. or when he was fighting Jiraiya..
And now can you tell me how that is a much worst condition than someone who nearly passed out.. had 3 deep wounds..
KingHashirama
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hmmm nope not really.. thought its funny you say that when you got almost everything except for Tsunade's condition in that fight.
- Arm, nothing to do with moving back from the punch
- hand nothing to do with moving back from the punch
- nice... but sadly nothing to do with moving back from the punch.
@bold, sadly you are the one missing that fact.. and its quite ironic you count it for Orochimaru.. but for the condition Tsunade was in, you ignore the "smallest amount of pain in body".
- can you show me where he was suffering in huge amounts and then show how much pain he was in compared to Tsunade when she did the punch...
- sure in that fight he did.... but in the encounter that i'm referring to he did not.
Key words in your post "Before the fight".
Try checking what happened in the fight.
Even in the scans you posted, he went from hardly being able to move to just having chakra control issues. THat is all . So please try again on this.
And actually talk about the situation that i presented to you , instead of talking about situations that I never mentioned or have zero relevance to the situation I'm talking about.
Thought you would have a decent counter instead of this stupid shit again.
Tsunade's first time fighting in 20 years. Was already out of breath..Kabuto then uses the pill to actually have a chance against her.
Since when did Obito become a CQC master? anything Tsunade has shown? considering the fact you can only talk about Tsunade's feats from her first fight in 20 years, i don't know why you are talking about "anything tsunade has shown"... why don't you try counter some of her part 2 stuff.
Or wait do you think that Kabuto would actually do the samething to War arc Tsunade?
Mihael Keehl
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Where did I state that he was immobile? I stated that he wasn't at his peak performance or peak speed level due to his illness, which I proved with that scan earlier. Jiraiya was also wounded and not fighting at peak either due to Tsunade's drugs.
A chronic illness always undercuts an acute one and in Tsunade's case, she overcame it and healed herself. So that, it makes sense she was in better condition than Orochimaru (overall). Even if she was hurt for a bit, she healed herself, Orochimaru doesn't have that luxury.
KingHashirama
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Neither was Tsunade in that entire fight, and especially in the situation i mentioned.
Sorry dude, but a stab through middle of the chest, + a deep wound going from bottom of neck to near middle of stomach + A deep back wound.. and especially considering the fact she nearly got knocked out from those wounds.... <<<<< You must not know much injuries if you think Orochimaru who was moving fine, was in a much worst condition than that.
She healed her wounds after she had already punched him.
I never denied Orochimaru wasn't healthy, I denied the fact that yall keep saying he couldn't move properly.. when he kicked Jiraiya fine and so on.
Lord Tywin
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hmmm nope not really.. thought its funny you say that when you got almost everything except for Tsunade's condition in that fight.
- Arm, nothing to do with moving back from the punch
- hand nothing to do with moving back from the punch
- nice... but sadly nothing to do with moving back from the punch.
@bold, sadly you are the one missing that fact.. and its quite ironic you count it for Orochimaru.. but for the condition Tsunade was in, you ignore the "smallest amount of pain in body".
- can you show me where he was suffering in huge amounts and then show how much pain he was in compared to Tsunade when she did the punch...
- sure in that fight he did.... but in the encounter that i'm referring to he did not.
Now onto Jiraya
literally before the fight
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Get out with that garbage. Read the manga.
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Key words in your post "Before the fight".
Try checking what happened in the fight.
Even in the scans you posted, he went from hardly being able to move to just having chakra control issues. THat is all . So please try again on this.
And actually talk about the situation that i presented to you , instead of talking about situations that I never mentioned or have zero relevance to the situation I'm talking about.
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lmao dude just stop. Tsunade's condition was tens of times better than Oro and Jiraiya. I've shown you the scans, and like usual you've chosen to ignore them
Smh Obito was the guy keeping up with Minato on foot when he attacked Konoha. Gai was countering adult Obito. Oh wait you're the guy that thinks Tsunade's striking speed is faster than Minato's ftg and said Minato has ordinary reflexes. Who am I kidding?
KingHashirama
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- I talk about their condition during the punch i mentioned
- you talk about the condition during the fight
^^^^^ Stay on the topic yea?
Minato never once used shunshin in that foot fight. He was using his normal speed which isn't much special.. and then Obito of course needed to use Kamui and all.
Sadly no, I'm the guy who said Tsunade's striking speed is faster than Minato being able to ftg away, try reading posts properly.
Sadly no, I stated Minato was normal kage tier reactions, however, due to his FTG, fans such as yourself overhype them. If FTG was to be given to other people , they would display similar feats.
