[Theory] Sussano>any jutsu in the manga

[valkyrion22]

son you just bullshited that whole post tho if you give me chapters where these things actually happened ill give you this argument but you cant because these chapters dont exsist this is not a thread saying nothing can defeat sussano this is a thread saying sussano is the most useful jutsu if kamui could defeat it y was kakashi about to get pwned by juts an arrow try again deidara is not strong enough to make an uchiha user even have to summon sussano proven with sasuke and itachi if your talking about inos slow ass mind transfer jutsu against sauske itachi or madara being effective you must be smoking some serioud high grade pass dat shit dis way and all the kages techniques broke an incomplete version thus being proven irrelavent!

Ok man, look here, everyone keeps posting techniques that may be able to tear Susano'o down. Asking for proof will not do since THIS IS HYPOTHETICAL! As is your thread here that states that Susano'o is the ultimate defense. Do not bash others that actually spend some time to prove your opinion wrong, just find something to prove them wrong instead of bashing them and calling them names. So far I haven't seen anything else but a Susano'o fanboy who will not accept anything but actual proof when his entire thread is hypothetical one. And if you wnt proof, read the damn manga and see when Madara's incomplete Susano'o got some broken ribs by A's and Oonoki's coordinated attack, but also when it was raped by Tsunade's punch. I know that it was incomplete, but still it was a form of Susano'o and we do not know the extent of Madara's susano'o. Regardles, stop bashing others and calling them names when you have nothing better to say. Do not ridicule yourself even more with your fanboy tactics, this will get you nowhere.

 

[Kirin Rei]

one rinnegan summon vs sussano? sussano owns with a swing of its sword if kabuto summoned an edo tensai that had the sussano then yeah they might have a chance his trump card has the technique for gods sake

You are aware that Susanoo is a jutsu and it's made up of chakra right?

Fujutsu Kyuin, which is Nagato's chakra and ninjutsu absorbtion ability can easily absorb it, seeing that Susanoo is made up of chakra and is infact, a form of ninjutsu. That singlehandedly debunks your claim that it's the most useful jutsu in the series.
Besides, it drains chakra like hell.

Gaara did pull Madara out of his Susanoo, as many other have pointed out. Be it with Oonoki's help or not. It's only logical to think that other ninja with similar abilities will be able to do so.

Tsunade destroyed and A & Oonoki damaged Susanoo with physical attacks. I'm not going to explain any more.

Inoichi and Fuu are more skilled users of Shintenshin and it's variants. Ino's just a fledgeling compared to them. If the user is kept in a single position for long enough it's perfectly plausible for it to work.

 

[Gatsuuga]

one rinnegan summon vs sussano? sussano owns with a swing of its sword if kabuto summoned an edo tensai that had the sussano then yeah they might have a chance his trump card has the technique for gods sake

:sy: seriously . You stated in the post I quoted that the rinnegan's only defensive technique was the chakra absorbing path. That why I said the following are defensive;
1) summons- Take for example the rock hard panda that was summoned to protect against jiriaya's kebori senbon. Also there shared feild of vision helps the original summoner. The chameleons camouflage and also be used defensively.
2) Shinra Tensei- pretty obvious used to block incoming attacks
3) Chibaku Tensei- can be used to restrict an opponents movements and lower there overall speed.
You need to read more carefully what I am responding to. Also unless you are talking about Itachi's susanoo which is a special case (which is dependant on the weapons not susanoo) a swing of the sword would only split the chimera dog up, making the battle harder for the susanoo user. The crab could also be useful for blocking the opponents vision by blanketing the field in foam. I can keep going the summons aren't as useless as you make them out.

In regards to the Edo's you are sorely mistaken. Edo's are unkillable as they just regenerate. 30 unkillable soldiers vs. 1 susanoo user will not turn out well for the susanoo user. The susanoo would drain the opponents chakra before they could rid the field of edo's and than they are basically f*cked.

 

[Rexoniel]

your the one not using your head deidara wouldnt have non stop explosions 1st of all he has to run out of clay and sussano would slap him out of the sky in minutes and just please stop saying it drains the life of the user evry technique has a risk this ones risk is well worth the reward for an uuber defense and an uuber attack all in one jutsu which is no where else in this manga

Lol. Most Jutsus drain you of your chakra. Susanoo actually brings you close to dying the longer its activated. How can you call it the best defense when after awhile it leaves you so worn out you're basically helpless and going blind. You want to know something better? The third Raikage fighting for 3 days straight against an entire army. I bet the users of Susanoo can't even keep it on for an hour and a half without keeling over. And btw in case you didn't notice, it takes a long ass time for Deidara to run out of clay. The susanoo user would die from chakra loss before then. Most Susanoo's only have a melee range so it isn't slapping Deidara while he's 80 feet in the air and its a question if Sasuke has the accuracy to even shoot him from that far away.

 

[Uchiha boii]

Ok man, look here, everyone keeps posting techniques that may be able to tear Susano'o down. Asking for proof will not do since THIS IS HYPOTHETICAL! As is your thread here that states that Susano'o is the ultimate defense. Do not bash others that actually spend some time to prove your opinion wrong, just find something to prove them wrong instead of bashing them and calling them names. So far I haven't seen anything else but a Susano'o fanboy who will not accept anything but actual proof when his entire thread is hypothetical one. And if you wnt proof, read the damn manga and see when Madara's incomplete Susano'o got some broken ribs by A's and Oonoki's coordinated attack, but also when it was raped by Tsunade's punch. I know that it was incomplete, but still it was a form of Susano'o and we do not know the extent of Madara's susano'o. Regardles, stop bashing others and calling them names when you have nothing better to say. Do not ridicule yourself even more with your fanboy tactics, this will get you nowhere.[/QUOTE

Ive shown manga evidence numerous time none of you have shown any it is stated in the mangaaaaaaaa that sussanos defense is better then garras which is supposed to be absolute thus making sussano even more absolute theres no speculating involved my friend i never stated sussano couldnt be broken i just stated that to date there is no defense that is better and it provides an impressive attack power as well making it a clear candidate for best all around jutsu i see no other jutsu that provide this its either an incredible attack or incredible defense sussano is both!

 

[Uchiha boii]

Its obvious those replying have mis read this post i never said that sussano couldnt be defeated under extreme circumstances im simply stating that no one technique is more useful in the shinobi world as of now the bijjuu dama is a stronger attack but has no defensive powers shinrai tensai has to be recharged sussano has no such drawbacks you can attack relentlessly while being completely surrounded by a powerful warrior defending you its the sickest looking jutsu as well

 

[black uchiha]

Lol no its cool but it's not the best

 

[Yo pappy]

where was i when you proved me wrong? ive been here giving direct quotes from the manga where you been? i know there two different types of defense im not retarded this thread is about sussano trumping evry other jutsu but not in terms of power but in terms of how useful the technique is thats what your not getting you bringing garra into this just makes me keep proving to you that sussano is the better defense as stated in the manga more recently then any of garras defensive accomplishments he had his ultimate defense with the shukaku and he still lost to deidara who want even trying to kill him? sauske with susssano beats garra with his sand proven by facts in the manga

You were sitting in front of your computer screen, but that's besides the fact. See the highlighted part? You're finally starting to get it. Now all that's left is to realize that because they are so different there is no real way to say which one is better. Each one has unique things specific to them that make them special, and how useful the technique is depends on the situation that the user is in. In some cases Susanoo might no be the best choice, and in some cases Gaaras defense isn't the best choice either. Because of that it boils down to which defense is better suited for the unexpected, and in my opinion I think that Gaaras defense is more adaptable.

 

[Uchiha boii]

If sussano could be absorbed by nagato y did itachi pwn him with the toska blade ? think about that before replying sasuke could do the same with an amatersu blade or arrow

 

[Ambriel]

I agree, uchiha boii good job

 

[Gatsuuga]

You were sitting in front of your computer screen, but that's besides the fact. See the highlighted part? You're finally starting to get it. Now all that's left is to realize that because they are so different there is no real way to say which one is better. Each one has unique things specific to them that make them special, and how useful the technique is depends on the situation that the user is in. In some cases Susanoo might no be the best choice, and in some cases Gaaras defense isn't the best choice either. Because of that it boils down to which defense is better suited for the unexpected, and in my opinion I think that Gaaras defense is more adaptable.

I completely agree, based on the fact that Gaara's sand is much, much more adaptable I would say it is better than susanoo. And for those that would say that Gaara's sand isn't as stong as susanoo, he guarded a freaking meteor with it.......

 

[valkyrion22]

Ok man, look here, everyone keeps posting techniques that may be able to tear Susano'o down. Asking for proof will not do since THIS IS HYPOTHETICAL! As is your thread here that states that Susano'o is the ultimate defense. Do not bash others that actually spend some time to prove your opinion wrong, just find something to prove them wrong instead of bashing them and calling them names. So far I haven't seen anything else but a Susano'o fanboy who will not accept anything but actual proof when his entire thread is hypothetical one. And if you wnt proof, read the damn manga and see when Madara's incomplete Susano'o got some broken ribs by A's and Oonoki's coordinated attack, but also when it was raped by Tsunade's punch. I know that it was incomplete, but still it was a form of Susano'o and we do not know the extent of Madara's susano'o. Regardles, stop bashing others and calling them names when you have nothing better to say. Do not ridicule yourself even more with your fanboy tactics, this will get you nowhere.[/QUOTE

Ive shown manga evidence numerous time none of you have shown any it is stated in the mangaaaaaaaa that sussanos defense is better then garras which is supposed to be absolute thus making sussano even more absolute theres no speculating involved my friend i never stated sussano couldnt be broken i just stated that to date there is no defense that is better and it provides an impressive attack power as well making it a clear candidate for best all around jutsu i see no other jutsu that provide this its either an incredible attack or incredible defense sussano is both!

Ok, I have a question and do answer with all honesty: Are you a retard my friend? I did not wish to end up insulting someone, but really now you were asking for it.
First as I mentioned in my earlier post the whole thread consists of opinions from many people, including yours. Yes, Susano'o is an extreme badass technique, but it has its freaking weaknesses; something that you fail to realize.
You do not pay any attention to the opinions of the other members and you just close your eyes and ears when they present some solid facts. All you do is ask for manag evidence but there is none, this is why everyone is debating with you to prove you that Susano'o has weaknesses and it is not as great as you think.
You think that Susano'o is unbeatable, alright, it is your opinion and in all honesty the manga has shown us that so far, but the manga also showed us that Susano'o poses a great risk on the user and is ia chakra w.h.o.r.e., nobody can deny that man, nobody but you who simply refuses to accept that fact.
Yes, Susano'o is a great ass kicking technique to start a fight, but it will not freaking last for long.
Anyway, I could go on and on and present more of the facts that were stated so far in a single post and with some details, but I see that it is no use since you are so blind and deaf to realize the errors in your way of thinking.
Last I would like to tell you to open your eyes and uncover your ears since your behavior will get you nowhere my friend.
Once you posted your opinion, feel ready to hear other opinions as well that will not match yours and perhaps prove you wrong.
That would be all.

 

[Kirin Rei]

Ive shown manga evidence numerous time none of you have shown any it is stated in the mangaaaaaaaa that sussanos defense is better then garras which is supposed to be absolute thus making sussano even more absolute theres no speculating involved my friend i never stated sussano couldnt be broken i just stated that to date there is no defense that is better and it provides an impressive attack power as well making it a clear candidate for best all around jutsu i see no other jutsu that provide this its either an incredible attack or incredible defense sussano is both!

1 - It drains your bloody chakra.
2 - It's defence can be penetrated by numerous techniques which has been proven by the manga.
3 - If every word Sasuke uttered turned out to be true the whole of Narutoverse would be f*cked at the moment.
4 - If we're going to go by manga quotes that are based on character's opinions; Naruto stated that Gaara had the strongest defence. Don't start pulling stuff out of nowhere saying that he hadn't seen a full powered Susanoo yet. Sasuke knew nothing about Gaara's defence when he claimed he had the strongest too.
5 - Susanoo's attack power is nothing compared to some other offensive OP jutsus.
6 - I still can't understand how you're able to insist that Edo is not better than Susanoo while you can summon the most OP Uchiha's ever with full Susanoo's using said technique. :|

 

[The Work]

Lmao have you seen Madara's asteroid?

 

[Uchiha boii]

I agree, uchiha boii good job

lol thank you someone whos sees what im trying to say

 

[Uchiha boii]

1 - It drains your bloody chakra.
2 - It's defence can be penetrated by numerous techniques which has been proven by the manga.
3 - If every word Sasuke uttered turned out to be true the whole of Narutoverse would be f*cked at the moment.
4 - If we're going to go by manga quotes that are based on character's opinions; Naruto stated that Gaara had the strongest defence. Don't start pulling stuff out of nowhere saying that he hadn't seen a full powered Susanoo yet. Sasuke knew nothing about Gaara's defence when he claimed he had the strongest too.
5 - Susanoo's attack power is nothing compared to some other offensive OP jutsus.
6 - I still can't understand how you're able to insist that Edo is not better than Susanoo while you can summon the most OP Uchiha's ever with full Susanoo's using said technique. :|

your not understanding the thread dude this is the scenario if you had to fight an army by yourself using only oneeeeeeeeeeeeeeee technique what would it be the obvious choice should be sussano because you can defend yourself and attack making it the alla around bestttttt singggllleeeee jutsu providing impressive attack power and impressive defense thats all im trying to say god dammmm! edos eouldnt count because they all have to use techniques to be effective fire style rasengan chidori whatever the best single technique is sussano for having defense and offense thats what ive been saying this whole time

 

[black uchiha]

I completely agree, based on the fact that Gaara's sand is much, much more adaptable I would say it is better than susanoo. And for those that would say that Gaara's sand isn't as stong as susanoo, he guarded a freaking meteor with it.......

It was a weaken meteor

 

[The Work]

your not understanding the thread dude this is the scenario if you had to fight an army by yourself using only oneeeeeeeeeeeeeeee technique what would it be the obvious choice should be sussano because you can defend yourself and attack making it the alla around bestttttt singggllleeeee jutsu providing impressive attack power and impressive defense thats all im trying to say god dammmm! edos eouldnt count because they all have to use techniques to be effective fire style rasengan chidori whatever the best single technique is sussano for having defense and offense thats what ive been saying this whole time

What if someone was like Madara and threw an asteroid at you

 

[Gatsuuga]

If sussano could be absorbed by nagato y did itachi pwn him with the toska blade ? think about that before replying sasuke could do the same with an amatersu blade or arrow

what does toska blade have to do with susanoo as an overall jutsu? Itachi's susanoo is an exception because it has the balde and mirror, both of which have no relations or link to susanoo, except for itachi used them. Susanoo is not dependant on the weapons nor are the weapons dependant on susanoo. Orochimaru sort out these weapons as well and he doesn't have susanoo, does he? Why would he go after weapons he can't use? The moral of the story is that using the blade and mirror to support your argument is stupid since they are a completely separate entity.

Also no sasuke could not do the same with his arrow since it doesn't seal things. Also i'm fairly sure the arrow could be absorbed by nagato, since it is chakra based. Take you own advise and take a moment to think about your posts.

It was a weaken meteor

Granted it was weakened, it still completely decimated the battle field. But the point was to illustrate that whilst I would say Gaara's sand isn't as strong defence wise as susanoo, it is a very close comparison.

 

[Uchiha boii]

Ok, I have a question and do answer with all honesty: Are you a retard my friend? I did not wish to end up insulting someone, but really now you were asking for it.
First as I mentioned in my earlier post the whole thread consists of opinions from many people, including yours. Yes, Susano'o is an extreme badass technique, but it has its freaking weaknesses; something that you fail to realize.
You do not pay any attention to the opinions of the other members and you just close your eyes and ears when they present some solid facts. All you do is ask for manag evidence but there is none, this is why everyone is debating with you to prove you that Susano'o has weaknesses and it is not as great as you think.
You think that Susano'o is unbeatable, alright, it is your opinion and in all honesty the manga has shown us that so far, but the manga also showed us that Susano'o poses a great risk on the user and is ia chakra w.h.o.r.e., nobody can deny that man, nobody but you who simply refuses to accept that fact.
Yes, Susano'o is a great ass kicking technique to start a fight, but it will not freaking last for long.
Anyway, I could go on and on and present more of the facts that were stated so far in a single post and with some details, but I see that it is no use since you are so blind and deaf to realize the errors in your way of thinking.
Last I would like to tell you to open your eyes and uncover your ears since your behavior will get you nowhere my friend.
Once you posted your opinion, feel ready to hear other opinions as well that will not match yours and perhaps prove you wrong.
That would be all.

That post right there was a fail if you have been reading my replies you would realize i never said it was unbeatable nothing is unbeatable its the best jutsu because it provides offense and defense idk how many more times i have to say it sussano has its weaknesses but id rather attack+defense than just attack or just defense is it getting thru your head yet this thread was never saying sussano is unbeatable just that it is the most useful read before posting