[Theory] Sussano>any jutsu in the manga

[Vexorian]

They would be relevant if you said itachi's susanoo> than any other jutsu, than that would change the debate considerably. Instead you are trying to say that susanoo the jutsu itself is the most useful. What you fail to realise is susanoo the jutsu itself, does not come with the sword and mirror, and that is why you point is irrelevant for this discussion. Also since it obviously need to be stated again, susanoo is chakra based, so is sasuke's sword/arrow. If kakashi has the time to activate a kumai to defend against an incoming arrow nagato could easily get the chakra absorbing shield up. You have again demonstrated how simple minded you are.....


Apart from Madara (or anyone for that matter) with an incomplete susanoo, we have never seen someone that is very mobile with a complete susanoo up. Your argument seems to center on a complete susanoo this is why I made the point. Again stop and think before you post.

You are right. I do believe Madara understands the effects of the full Susano'o, and understands it's both too strenuous and hinders mobility.

 

[black uchiha]

lol wut bro?

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Lol no my dude it's like 5 v 1 at that point so it's still not easy...also madara is being reckless due to being and edo (showen by him hitting himself with the meteor tech)

 

[Uchiha boii]

Im done arguing with you guys i thought id have an intelligent debate in this thread but all i saw was ignorance sussano can defend and attack plus it looks badass making it my favorite for how useful it is in battle the mokton would be second because it can defend and attack as well but doesnt look nearly as sick

 

[Kirin Rei]

sussano can attack without using other jutsu as seen when danzo gets raped over and over again by it edo tensai is one jutsu so you could summon all the edo that you want but then they couldnt use any more techniques only punches and kicks etc a punch from sussano > a punch from an edo zombie you understand any of this ? or am i typing to a retard who cant properly read threads

Yes, yes. I'm a retard. Sorry for taking your time.
I'm enlightened by the mightiness of your logic.

For the sake of humanity I hope you don't reproduce. This century isn't advanced enough to host another brilliant mastermind that would be your spawn. Go freeze your sperms or something.
No, scratch that. Go freeze yourself. You can be very useful a couple of hundred years from now when the world might make better use of a genius with such impeccable logic.

Don't worry about us, just go.
Please, go.

Hopefully they'll just put you to sleep around the year 2500, instead of having to deal with you like we're cursed to do.

 

[Uchiha boii]

Yes, yes. I'm a retard. Sorry for taking your time.
I'm enlightened by the mightiness of your logic.

For the sake of humanity I hope you don't reproduce. This century isn't advanced enough to host another brilliant mastermind that would be your spawn. Go freeze your sperms or something.
No, scratch that. Go freeze yourself. You can be very useful a couple of hundred years from now when the world might make better use of a genius with such impeccable logic.

Don't worry about us, just go.
Please, go.

Hopefully they'll just put you to sleep around the year 2500, instead of having to deal with you like we're cursed to do.

lol thnks for admitting it to yourself thats the 1st step to recovery

 

[black uchiha]

They would be relevant if you said itachi's susanoo> than any other jutsu, than that would change the debate considerably. Instead you are trying to say that susanoo the jutsu itself is the most useful. What you fail to realise is susanoo the jutsu itself, does not come with the sword and mirror, and that is why you point is irrelevant for this discussion. Also since it obviously need to be stated again, susanoo is chakra based, so is sasuke's sword/arrow. If kakashi has the time to activate a kumai to defend against an incoming arrow nagato could easily get the chakra absorbing shield up. You have again demonstrated how simple minded you are.....


Madara was using an incomplete susanoo when he was moving around (usually just the ribs), we have never seen someone that is very mobile with a complete susanoo up. Your argument seems to center on a complete susanoo this is why I made the point. Again stop and think before you post.

Itachi moved in his full sussano

 

[Mangomango]

I do understand the point you are trying to make, Sussano does have a very good defense and a good attack and i can see how those two factors combined make it
a very challenging jutsu to fight against. Although....

Someone mentioned this before and no one picked up on it, if you are talking about the most useful Jutsu in a battle then it has to be Gaara's sand control. Even if the sand can't attack and defend as well as Sussano, it can still be more useful than Sussano in a number of ways.

Below.

Gaara's sand.
-Reasonable Attack
-Good defense
-Can act as a defense for multiple people
-Mobile
-Sensory
-Sealing
-Transport

Sussano
-Good attack
-Good defense

Thats all we have really seen of Sussano.

Comparing the two i would go for Gaara's sand anyday. ^.^

 

[Gatsuuga]

Im done arguing with you guys i thought id have an intelligent debate in this thread but all i saw was ignorance sussano can defend and attack plus it looks badass making it my favorite for how useful it is in battle the mokton would be second because it can defend and attack as well but doesnt look nearly as sick

For an intelligent debate both parties must be open and take into consideration to the opposing parties views. You failed to do this and that is why you didn't get the intelligent debate you wanted.

Also saying that mokuton is second best because it doesn't look as good, kinda illustrates what I just said......:flaw:

Itachi moved in his full sussano

I know this but he walked, which equals not very fast movement

 

[Uchiha boii]

Itachi moved in his full sussano

yes he did remaining stationary is not a problem for this technique

 

[Uchiha boii]

For an intelligent debate both parties must be open and take into consideration to the opposing parties views. You failed to do this and that is why you didn't get the intelligent debate you wanted.

Also saying that mokuton is second best because it doesn't look as good, kinda illustrates what I just said......:flaw:

i was open but no one takes into consideration what i have stated so i give up trying to prove my point with manga facts like have been doing this whole time and idgaf about what you think son lol

 

[black uchiha]

I do understand the point you are trying to make, Sussano does have a very good defense and a good attack and i can see how those two factors combined make it
a very challenging jutsu to fight against. Although....

Someone mentioned this before and no one picked up on it, if you are talking about the most useful Jutsu in a battle then it has to be Gaara's sand control. Even if the sand can't attack and defend as well as Sussano, it can still be more useful than Sussano in a number of ways.

Below.

Gaara's sand.
-Reasonable Attack
-Good defense
-Can act as a defense for multiple people
-Mobile
-Sensory
-Sealing
-Transport

Sussano
-Good attack
-Good defense

Thats all we have really seen of Sussano.

Comparing the two i would go for Gaara's sand anyday. ^.^

That was me thanx but that doesn't mean I was saying it was the best just used it as an example of a more useful tech....but again thanx

yes he did remaining stationary is not a problem for this technique

I was just telling him that it's possible to move in a full one

 

[Vexorian]

Im done arguing with you guys i thought id have an intelligent debate in this thread but all i saw was ignorance sussano can defend and attack plus it looks badass making it my favorite for how useful it is in battle the mokton would be second because it can defend and attack as well but doesnt look nearly as sick

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Yes, yes. I'm a retard. Sorry for taking your time.
I'm enlightened by the mightiness of your logic.

For the sake of humanity I hope you don't reproduce. This century isn't advanced enough to host another brilliant mastermind that would be your spawn. Go freeze your sperms or something.
No, scratch that. Go freeze yourself. You can be very useful a couple of hundred years from now when the world might make better use of a genius with such impeccable logic.

Don't worry about us, just go.
Please, go.

Hopefully they'll just put you to sleep around the year 2500, instead of having to deal with you like we're cursed to do.

Good. God. You. Are. My. Hero. +. R. E. P. To. You.

 

[Vexorian]

yes he did remaining stationary is not a problem for this technique

No....Itachi WALKED in his full Susano'o. Never once has he been shown moving at a high rate of speed. He's been inching along.

 

[Uchiha boii]

I do understand the point you are trying to make, Sussano does have a very good defense and a good attack and i can see how those two factors combined make it
a very challenging jutsu to fight against. Although....

Someone mentioned this before and no one picked up on it, if you are talking about the most useful Jutsu in a battle then it has to be Gaara's sand control. Even if the sand can't attack and defend as well as Sussano, it can still be more useful than Sussano in a number of ways.

Below.

Gaara's sand.
-Reasonable Attack
-Good defense
-Can act as a defense for multiple people
-Mobile
-Sensory
-Sealing
-Transport

Sussano
-Good attack
-Good defense

Thats all we have really seen of Sussano.

Comparing the two i would go for Gaara's sand anyday. ^.^

at least you acknowledge what im trying to say i disagree strongly with what you've stated but its a mute point now ive made my defense against garra already and dont care to continue to repeat myself

 

[Vexorian]

If you're saying that Mokuton loses due to fail appearance...Appearance HAS NO USE. What something looks like does not ALTER ITS FUNCTIONING. You sir are a fanboy.

 

[pdaworld]

I rather have minato space time teleportation jutsu. I could touch susasno, let go of the the kunai in my hand. Teleport Susasno 100 miles away and tele back and kill you with the kunai I just let go while still grocery shopping and making dinner.

 

[Uchiha boii]

If you're saying that Mokuton loses due to fail appearance...Appearance HAS NO USE. What something looks like does not ALTER ITS FUNCTIONING. You sir are a fanboy.

yu cnt even front sussano looks better then your favorite move lmaoo yoo idont care if im a fanboyy evrybody has a favorite so yur words dont affect me in any way i lyk the sussano its better then mokton in my eyes so thats all that matters

 

[black uchiha]

I know this but he walked, which equals not very fast movement

I know I was just saying he could move, also there is no reason to believe that one couldn't run with a full one, Itachi just had no reason to

No....Itachi WALKED in his full Susano'o. Never once has he been shown moving at a high rate of speed. He's been inching along.

see above

 

[Uchiha boii]

I rather have minato space time teleportation jutsu. I could touch susasno, let go of the the kunai in my hand. Teleport Susasno 100 miles away and tele back and kill you with the kunai I just let go while still grocery shopping and making dinner.

nice yo

 

[xxSAGExx]

In all truth sussano is the best all around jutsu we have seen in this manga it is the ultimate defense (stated in the manga)

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wut one technique can harm it so bad this technique is truly unreal its lyk yu have a big brother with badass weapons watchin yur bac all the time anddd this techniques attack power varies on the user but is always impressive if i culd have one move from this anime it would be the sussano !

Nope, it's Shinra Tensei - Divine Judgment. It can repel any attack or pull any thing, pulling anyone from Sasunoo is nothing especially if the same jutsu can destroy an entire village. Pain was able to destroy a village, fly, ect... It's been stated Nagato could use his jutsus faster and stronger than Pain could have so Nagato at full power with that one jutsu would beat an uchiha with only Sasunoo. Pull you out of Sasunoo and use the push aspect of the ability to destroy the enemy. Pain can even do this, there were always reasons why Paindidn't use this ability at the start of the fight, it would end to quickly. Sasunoo is stationary (except Madara's) so you're and easy target and earth jutsus have an advantage to stationary enemies so Jiraiya would win with underworld swamp jutsu and sink it.

The 3rd Raikage's defense was said to be the best defense and Naruto's clone said no Gaara has the best defense, Sasuke even said Gaara defend was strong. Itachi's full Sasunoo couldn't handle Chibaku Tensei - Bursting Earth Celestial Body or else Itachi would have nothing to worry about and it took a 8 tailed Kyuubi to breakout.