[Theory] Sussano>any jutsu in the manga

[Shame]

Every jutsu has it's weakness.

 

[Uchiha boii]

what does toska blade have to do with susanoo as an overall jutsu? Itachi's susanoo is an exception because it has the balde and mirror, both of which have no relations or link to susanoo, except for itachi used them. Susanoo is not dependant on the weapons nor are the weapons dependant on susanoo. Orochimaru sort out these weapons as well and he doesn't have susanoo, does he? Why would he go after weapons he can't use? The moral of the story is that using the blade and mirror to support your argument is stupid since they are a completely separate entity.

Also no sasuke could not do the same with his arrow since it doesn't seal things. Also i'm fairly sure the arrow could be absorbed by nagato, since it is chakra based. Take you own advise and take a moment to think about your posts.

the items were used by sussano thus they are relevant to this post yu have no choice but to accept that this technique is the most useful not the strongest and yes against a live nagato an amatertsu sword or arrrow will rape him and his chakra absorbtion ability will be pwned

 

[black uchiha]

That post right there was a fail if you have been reading my replies you would realize i never said it was unbeatable nothing is unbeatable its the best jutsu because it provides offense and defense idk how many more times i have to say it sussano has its weaknesses but id rather attack+defense than just attack or just defense is it getting thru your head yet this thread was never saying sussano is unbeatable just that it is the most useful read before posting

Sorry it's not the most useful, its only (as you stated) for attack and defense....there are other techs that have more to them gaara's sand for one (attack, defense, sealing, transportation, detecting others...etc) I'm sure u see my point with that one tech right

 

[Lamar941]

1 - It drains your bloody chakra.
2 - It's defence can be penetrated by numerous techniques which has been proven by the manga.
3 - If every word Sasuke uttered turned out to be true the whole of Narutoverse would be f*cked at the moment.
4 - If we're going to go by manga quotes that are based on character's opinions; Naruto stated that Gaara had the strongest defence. Don't start pulling stuff out of nowhere saying that he hadn't seen a full powered Susanoo yet. Sasuke knew nothing about Gaara's defence when he claimed he had the strongest too.
5 - Susanoo's attack power is nothing compared to some other offensive OP jutsus.
6 - I still can't understand how you're able to insist that Edo is not better than Susanoo while you can summon the most OP Uchiha's ever with full Susanoo's using said technique. :|

You have said everything I want to say, but face it, this Guy is clearly close-minded and is unable to look in other perspectives, I mean look at his name. He wants to be right, but has been proven wrong on many occasions. He completely ignores the drawbacks of the Susanoo, like draining Chakra. Now he tries to talk about it being "the most useful" Jutsu when this Susanno when it drains your "bloody chakra" when you keep stated perfectly. Also this Technique while using eventually strains your body AND eyes a clear drawback. It if it strains the Users while doing this, then it is not the most useful.

But as most idiots will do, he will ignore the points and he lost all credibility anyway when he said "Susanoo has no drawbacks, you can keep attacking relentlessly" *sigh*

 

[Kirin Rei]

your not understanding the thread dude this is the scenario if you had to fight an army by yourself using only oneeeeeeeeeeeeeeee technique what would it be the obvious choice should be sussano because you can defend yourself and attack making it the alla around bestttttt singggllleeeee jutsu providing impressive attack power and impressive defense thats all im trying to say god dammmm! edos eouldnt count because they all have to use techniques to be effective fire style rasengan chidori whatever the best single technique is sussano for having defense and offense thats what ive been saying this whole time

You're starting to get on my nerves.

First of all, you never stated such a thing in the OP.
Second of all, why on earth can't Edo Tensei be taken into account?
It's a single jutsu, plain and simple. What those who have been resurrected by said jutsu do are irrelevant. They can use whatever technique that pleases them.

That's like saying that Kage Bunshin doesn't count because while one can use a Rasengan the other can use Sage Mode and another can throw a kunai. :|

You have said everything I want to say, but face it, this Guy is clearly close-minded and is unable to look in other perspectives, I mean look at his name. He wants to be right, but has been proven wrong on many occasions. He completely ignores the drawbacks of the Susanoo, like draining Chakra. Now he tries to talk about it being "the most useful" Jutsu when this Susanno when it drains your "bloody chakra" when you keep stated perfectly. Also this Technique while using eventually strains your body AND eyes a clear drawback. It if it strains the Users while doing this, then it is not the most useful.

But as most idiots will do, he will ignore the points and he lost all credibility anyway when he said "Susanoo has no drawbacks, you can keep attacking relentlessly" *sigh*

Haha, thanks. <3
I know, I'm just bored at the moment and have nothing better to do.

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[Uchiha boii]

You're starting to get on my nerves.

First of all, you never stated such a thing in the OP.
Second of all, why on earth can't Edo Tensei be taken into account?
It's a single jutsu, plain and simple. What those who have been resurrected by said jutsu do are irrelevant. They can use whatever technique that pleases them.

That's like saying that Kage Bunshin doesn't count because while one can use a Rasengan the other can use Sage Mode and another can throw kunai. :|

this is about the best jutsu son nothing more edo tensai shuldnt count because its summoning ninja to do multiple jutsus and fight for you im talking about one move one technique

 

[black uchiha]

this is about the best jutsu son nothing more edo tensai shuldnt count because its summoning ninja to do multiple jutsus and fight for you im talking about one move one technique

Is that not the same thing as sussano?

 

[Gatsuuga]

That post right there was a fail if you have been reading my replies you would realize i never said it was unbeatable nothing is unbeatable its the best jutsu because it provides offense and defense idk how many more times i have to say it sussano has its weaknesses but id rather attack+defense than just attack or just defense is it getting thru your head yet this thread was never saying sussano is unbeatable just that it is the most useful read before posting

The reason these keep coming up is that people are giving you valid reasons to which you try to discredit by identifying all the weaknesses in said technique. Yet what you are failing to do is comprehend and understand is that susanoo's weaknesses are the things that lend the advantage to the techniques people are putting forward. You are willing to accept weaknesses in the techniques that others are putting forward, but not in the one you are supporting.

Take for example the mind transfer jutsu that someone suggested earlier. To successfully execute such a technique you have to hit the opponent, whilst considering that the technique only travels in a linear trajectory (at least for Ino). Now from what we have seen susanoo takes a toll on the body and is fairly draining. Hence when someone activates it they tend to remain stationary (this is a generalisation but makes a point). Therefore because the opponent is stationary someone using the mind transfer jutsu would find it much easier to hit the target and complete the technique. Yet when someone suggested this technique you stated something along the lines of ' yer right like Ino could hit him with it'. Given support and such a battle plan, the advantage is actually in Ino's corner in this matchup.

Therefore in future maybe think properly about why people are putting forward these optionsm instead of just shooting them down. That way people would probably get less frustrated with you and stop asking if you are retarted.........

 

[The Work]

Somone can whip him out of his Susano...take his eyes = Game Over pal

 

[Yo pappy]

You're starting to get on my nerves.

First of all, you never stated such a thing in the OP.
Second of all, why on earth can't Edo Tensei be taken into account?
It's a single jutsu, plain and simple. What those who have been resurrected by said jutsu do are irrelevant. They can use whatever technique that pleases them.

That's like saying that Kage Bunshin doesn't count because while one can use a Rasengan the other can use Sage Mode and another can throw kunai. :|

lol let it go. The guy is obviously like 12 years old.

 

[Uchiha boii]

You have said everything I want to say, but face it, this Guy is clearly close-minded and is unable to look in other perspectives, I mean look at his name. He wants to be right, but has been proven wrong on many occasions. He completely ignores the drawbacks of the Susanoo, like draining Chakra. Now he tries to talk about it being "the most useful" Jutsu when this Susanno when it drains your "bloody chakra" when you keep stated perfectly. Also this Technique while using eventually strains your body AND eyes a clear drawback. It if it strains the Users while doing this, then it is not the most useful.

But as most idiots will do, he will ignore the points and he lost all credibility anyway when he said "Susanoo has no drawbacks, you can keep attacking relentlessly" *sigh*

where did i say it had no drawbacks? name me one technique that is better and reasons y its better and ill agree but until this technique can both defend and attack i wont agree

 

[black uchiha]

Somone can whip him out of his Susano...take his eyes = Game Over pal

It won't be that easy lol

 

[Uchiha boii]

The reason these keep coming up is that people are giving you valid reasons to which you try to discredit by identifying all the weaknesses in said technique. Yet what you are failing to do is comprehend and understand is that susanoo's weaknesses are the things that lend the advantage to the techniques people are putting forward. You are willing to accept weaknesses in the techniques that others are putting forward, but not in the one you are supporting.

Take for example the mind transfer jutsu that someone suggested earlier. To successfully execute such a technique you have to hit the opponent, whilst considering that the technique only travels in a linear trajectory (at least for Ino). Now from what we have seen susanoo takes a toll on the body and is fairly draining. Hence when someone activates it they tend to remain stationary (this is a generalisation but makes a point). Therefore because the opponent is stationary someone using the mind transfer jutsu would find it much easier to hit the target and complete the technique. Yet when someone suggested this technique you stated something along the lines of ' yer right like Ino could hit him with it'. Given support and such a battle plan, the advantage is actually in Ino's corner in this matchup.

Therefore in future maybe think properly about why people are putting forward these optionsm instead of just shooting them down. That way people would probably get less frustrated with you and stop asking if you are retarted.........

sussano users stay staionary? wth are you saying madara is dancing all over the kages with it right now and this is not i repeat is not a thread stating sussano cant be defeated its a thread stating its the most useful if you would rather have inos mind transfer then sussano idk what to say about you

 

[Kirin Rei]

this is about the best jutsu son nothing more edo tensai shuldnt count because its summoning ninja to do multiple jutsus and fight for you im talking about one move one technique

You're really good at avoiding stuff, huh?

I'll try to make it clear.
Summoning a ninja using Edo Tensei is a single jutsu. Just like hurling a Rasengan at someone. Is that much clear?

What the summoned Edo does is irrelevant to this. That is just the result of the single jutsu that has been performed. Just like the Rasengan destroys the thing it hits, the Edo Tensei deals damage by it's own means.

Think of summoning an Edo like using a puppet with chakra strings. You can manipulate it as you want after creating it once, just like how you can manipulate Susanoo.

According to your logic, after creating Susanoo you shouldn't perform any attacks, you should just sit there.

Are you understanding even a wee part of this or am I typing to a wall? :|

 

[Uchiha boii]

It won't be that easy lol

They fail to realize the epicness of this ONE technique

 

[The Work]

It won't be that easy lol

lol wut bro?

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[Uchiha boii]

You're really good at avoiding stuff, huh?

I'll try to make it clear.
Summoning a ninja using Edo Tensei is a single jutsu. Just like hurling a Rasengan at someone. Is that much clear?

What the summoned Edo does is irrelevant to this. That is just the result of the single jutsu that has been performed.

Think of summoning an Edo like using a puppet with chakra strings. You can manipulate it as you want after creating it once, just like how you can manipulate Susanoo.

According to your logic, after creating Susanoo you shouldn't perform any attacks, you should just sit there.

Are you understanding even a wee part of this or am I typing to a wall? :|

sussano can attack without using other jutsu as seen when danzo gets raped over and over again by it edo tensai is one jutsu so you could summon all the edo that you want but then they couldnt use any more techniques only punches and kicks etc a punch from sussano > a punch from an edo zombie you understand any of this ? or am i typing to a retard who cant properly read threads

 

[Vexorian]

this is about the best jutsu son nothing more edo tensai shuldnt count because its summoning ninja to do multiple jutsus and fight for you im talking about one move one technique

If it's one technique, then it's obvious that it goes to Mokuton, assuming Edo Tensei doesn't count. Let's face it, the benefits of it are undeniable, it actually helps stamina being able to use it, and it is all around more balanced. You lose.

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[Gatsuuga]

the items were used by sussano thus they are relevant to this post yu have no choice but to accept that this technique is the most useful not the strongest and yes against a live nagato an amatertsu sword or arrrow will rape him and his chakra absorbtion ability will be pwned

They would be relevant if you said itachi's susanoo> than any other jutsu, than that would change the debate considerably. Instead you are trying to say that susanoo the jutsu itself is the most useful. What you fail to realise is susanoo the jutsu itself, does not come with the sword and mirror, and that is why you point is irrelevant for this discussion. Also since it obviously need to be stated again, susanoo is chakra based, so is sasuke's sword/arrow. If kakashi has the time to activate a kumai to defend against an incoming arrow nagato could easily get the chakra absorbing shield up. You have again demonstrated how simple minded you are.....

sussano users stay staionary? wth are you saying madara is dancing all over the kages with it right now and this is not i repeat is not a thread stating sussano cant be defeated its a thread stating its the most useful if you would rather have inos mind transfer then sussano idk what to say about you

Madara was using an incomplete susanoo when he was moving around (usually just the ribs), we have never seen someone that is very mobile with a complete susanoo up. Your argument seems to center on a complete susanoo this is why I made the point. Again stop and think before you post.

 

[black uchiha]

They fail to realize the epicness of this ONE technique

Whoa... don't lump me in with your foolishness. It won't be as easy as that guy was saying but it not the best/most useful as u r saying either.

I haven't read all the posts in fact only seen the last two pages, but it seems like you don't want to hear reason. And with your name it seems you like the Uchiha, as do I but don't let that cloud reason....