Superman Stomps Goku!!!

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Superman one million created a friggin universe. SSJ god goku is a solar system buster at best.
Super perfect cell had the power to destroy a solar system 7 years before the buu saga.

ssj god goku is far above that.

Creating the universe? So, janemba manipulated the entire universe including otherworld and hell, he even caused the dead to come back alive. And yet he was beaten by gogeta

ssj god goku>gogeta
 

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Super perfect cell had the power to destroy a solar system 7 years before the buu saga.

ssj god goku is far above that.

Creating the universe? So, janemba manipulated the entire universe including otherworld and hell, he even caused the dead to come back alive. And yet he was beaten by gogeta

ssj god goku>gogeta
He claimed he can. But never did so it was just hype and janemba was in the movies so he's filler like GT.
 

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That's a rather nonsensical argument. What's ¨fair¨ is what the discussion maker sets as the standard. We talking each in their strongest canon incarnations? Is non-canon included? Any limits? All of that is fair game and is up to the thread maker.
Then by that I can use GT logic where Goku became immortal.

So Goku> Superman.
 

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new 52 superman can beat goku the dude survived the pressure of a black hole, bench pressed earth for 5 days and only broke a single sweat simply because he wasnt near the sun, stopped a moon sized meteor neg diff, pushed a spaceship monster much bigger than earth, survived planet explosion etc.
 

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The DBZ wank is intense, they know deep down Supe's authors would allow him to survive a million green rocks
for the W.
Supe's got stats and possibly the strongest shield, Goku is rekt with ease.
 

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Then by that I can use GT logic where Goku became immortal.

So Goku> Superman.
Except Goku is dead in GT: A Hero's Legacy.

Shenron, who allegedly gave Goku this ¨immortality¨ was also killed himself by King Piccolo and has died several times with the loss of Kami and Piccolo; having the Dragon Balls inside him did not make him immortal, as Shenron had them inside him and was mortal.

If you have to use Superman in his weakest form and Goku in his strongest just to make the match in Goku's favor, then you have your answer on who wins in their strongest incarnations, canon or non-canon.
 

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Except Goku is dead in GT: A Hero's Legacy.

Shenron, who allegedly gave Goku this ¨immortality¨ was also killed himself by King Piccolo and has died several times with the loss of Kami and Piccolo; having the Dragon Balls inside him did not make him immortal, as Shenron had them inside him and was mortal.

If you have to use Superman in his weakest form and Goku in his strongest just to make the match in Goku's favor, then you have your answer on who wins in their strongest incarnations, canon or non-canon.
I don't remember ever using Superman in his weakest form, that's your own assumption.

IF we use their base then Goku wins. If we use their non-canon versions then God-mode Pre-crisis- vampire Superman wins.

Your logic actually applies in reverse.
 

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It depends on wich superman we talk about.

Superman (strongest version) vs Goku - Superman stomps

Superman original version vs Goku - SSJ god goku wins
 

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I agree the strongest Superman wins. The dude blows away solar systems with a snooze.


However, you have to still think why do so so many people refuse to accept Goku looses? One his character is much better than Superman's. It was written only once , ended once. Not like Supes. Two, Goku is actually a fighter and the fights are more interesting. Whatever feats Superman has, he is not a fighter and to watch him fight is boring. So yes he wins the fight but not true fans. So #Gokuwillalwaysbebetter
 

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I don't remember ever using Superman in his weakest form, that's your own assumption.

IF we use their base then Goku wins. If we use their non-canon versions then God-mode Pre-crisis- vampire Superman wins.

Your logic actually applies in reverse.
I never said that you did specifically; that was to the entire general concept of people going ¨Well, if we take Superman in his first publication and put him against SSG Goku, Goku stomps.¨

Except Superman has nothing but a base form? Aside from his god incarnation, Superman is always in base; he doesn't transform or change his being in any way to access his pre-crisis feats. While base Goku can barely lift a few tons, Superman was holding quintillions of them up with one hand[ ], easily carrying several planets faster than the speed of light by a chain and traveling from Earth to a distant solar system because he felt a sneeze coming on, which proceeded to destroy said solar system. Meanwhile, Goku needs 4 episodes to charge up a planet-busting attack that actually just makes a hole the size of a house in the ground.
 
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