Suigetsu's Trash Talk Saved The World

Megatolium

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If Suigetsu didn't talk snot to Jugo to the point the bastard became enraged and punched him, they would have never discovered Orochimaru's scroll on reanimating the 5 Hokage. Without them it can be argued that Madara could've won the war.
 

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Its weird how Kishi made it seem like he would work on him at one point.
They got a whole arc! And then...nothing else of significance.

Honestly with the Sound village they should've just swapped out Suigetsu for Sakon/Ukon, fused Tayuya and Karin and Jugo with Jirobo and had the survive their Part 1 battles. That way Sasuke can recruit some characters we actually know and can be relevant. Plus the Sound 4 (same age as Naruto and Sasuke) had serious plot and power potential.

Sound village as a whole got shafted, not just Suigetsu.
 

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last i recall, the Edo Hokage got involved to stop Madara from using MT and it still happened.
Alliance are definitely dead without the Hokage/Taka inclusion. Sasuke's dead thanks to no Karin, no Hashirama to distract Edo Madara, no Minato/Hiruzen combos, Naruto gets murdered by the Shinjuu bc Hiruzen doesn't save him...Even Taka & Oro VS Spiral Zetsu was effectual.
 

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Alliance are definitely dead without the Hokage/Taka inclusion. Sasuke's dead thanks to no Karin, no Hashirama to distract Edo Madara, no Minato/Hiruzen combos, Naruto gets murdered by the Shinjuu bc Hiruzen doesn't save him...Even Taka & Oro VS Spiral Zetsu was effectual.
it's not that i don't see how it mattered to the alliance's efforts, it's that i don't see how Suigetsu finding that scroll stopped Madara. If anything, that scroll probably helped him more than it helped the alliance.
 
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